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With 300,000 new conscripts and 20,000 volunteers, Russia’s force is now more than double the 150,000 initially allocated to what President Vladimir Putin termed a “special military operation.”

So this double the number has what? An 1/8? of the training (1/16th?) of the original batch of Russian Soldiers originally sent in back in February?
And questionable amounts of modern gear, and they're up against soldiers who've been tempered and hardened by almost a year of successful fighting.

The challenge is that while we frequently see estimated russian losses and equipment assessments we see fewer of those for the ukranians. So it's really hard to say much about the force disparities other than man for man the russians have to be worse.

How many himars survive? how much ammo is left? How many drones etc etc. I mean - the russians aren't really winning at bakmud but they aren't losing either, they gain a little ground every few days.

I think ukraine will win in the end but i don't think russia is quite as 'on the ropes' as some have suggested. it think the ukrainian troops have taken losses too and i don't know how they stack in numbers to the russians. It's great if you can kill 8 enemies for every 1 of yours they kill, unless they have 9.
 

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There are probably several other countries suffering under Puke tin's thumb that are watching closely to see when it is time to force the Russian bear out of their countries.
 

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Whoopsies from another couple Millionaire’s that criticized Putin.

The millionaire's death is the latest in a series of unexplained deaths involving Russian tycoons since the start of the Russian invasion, many of whom have openly criticised the war.

Reports in Russian media said Mr Antov, 65, had fallen from a window at the hotel in the city of Rayagada on Sunday. Another member of his four-strong Russian group, Vladimir Budanov, died at the hotel on Friday.

Superintendent Vivekananda Sharma of Odisha police said Mr Budanov was found to have suffered a stroke while his friend "was depressed after his death and he too died". The Russian consul in Kolkata, Alexei Idamkin, told the Tass news agency that police did not see a "criminal element in these tragic events".

Pavel Antov founded the Vladimir Standard meat processing plant and in 2019 Forbes estimated his fortune at some $140m (£118m) at the top of Russia's rich list of lawmakers and civil servants.

Late last June he appeared to react to a Russian missile attack on a residential block in the Shevchenkivskyi district of Kyiv that left a man dead and his seven-year-old daughter and her mother wounded.

A WhatsApp message on Antov's account described how the family were pulled out of the rubble: "It's extremely difficult to call all this anything but terror." Then he fell out a window before he could fall down several flights of stairs while shooting himself in the head repeatedly.

The message was deleted and Antov then posted on social media that he was a supporter of the president, a "patriot of my country" and backed the war. Oh well.
At least he wasn’t “vacationing with his wife or children” so they didn’t fall out the window with him.
 

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Sorry, I guess only one of the above was a millionnaire that criticize Putin, and the other one just happened to be in his proximity. My mistake.
It's been a trick of gov'ts going back to ceaser's day - kill a few rich guys and steal their assets and wealth to fund your wars. Not much of a surprise.
 
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It's been a trick of gov'ts going back to ceaser's day - kill a few rich guys and steal their assets and wealth to fund your wars. Not much of a surprise.
That why the Canadian government has been seizing assets of rich Russians?
TurdOWE will use that money to fight citizens for control of Canada.
 
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Ovechkin's support for murderous Putin reason not to celebrate No. 8
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Dec 26, 2022 • 3 minute read
How can we celebrate a hockey player who backs a murderous dictator as he invades another country?

While Alexander Ovechkin won accolades for surpassing Gordie Howe last week as the second-best goal-scorer in NHL history, he shouldn’t be celebrated no matter how good a player he is.


Ovechkin has long chosen to associate with and support one of the worst dictators that the world has had to deal with over the past several decades – Vladimir Putin.


I can hear people who consider themselves sports purists screaming right now that Ovechkin shouldn’t be judged by his politics. Here’s the problem: even before Putin invaded Ukraine, “Ovi” tied himself to the dictator in Moscow by helping to run support campaigns for the former KGB agent’s “elections.”

Most of us couldn’t tell you the politics of any particular hockey star, or even most professional athletes, but Ovechkin has made his politics a known part of his public persona.

Putin is someone who has served as either president or prime minister of Russia since 1999 and has ensured he stays in office by assassinating his opponents. Sergei Magnitsky in 2009, Alexander Litvinenko in 2006 or Boris Nemtsov in 2015 are just some of Putin’s opponents who have met an untimely death for standing up to the strongman.


Yet, Ovechkin stands with Putin.

In 2017, Ovi, the captain of the Washington Capitals, even decided he would work to ensure his friend stayed in power. That year, Ovechkin set up a powerful group of Russian athletes and celebrities to back Putin’s 2018 reelection campaign and gave themselves the name PutinTeam.

To this day, Ovechkin’s Instagram account has a photo of the hockey great standing next to the murderous dictator of Moscow.

Would we accept this for star athletes who were close to other politicians seen in a negative light by the mainstream? I can guarantee you that if Ovechkin were supporting Donald Trump, he would get more criticism than he gets for his close ties with Putin.

One of the claims I hear in defence of Ovechkin is that he has family still in Russia that he needs to protect. Spare me the false tears. The man has enough money and connections to get his extended family out of Russia if he wants to; he simply doesn’t, and he doesn’t want to renounce his gross, disgusting support for Putin, either.


Ovechkin surpassed the 801 goals Gordie Howe scored in the NHL, but he hasn’t passed Howe’s goal total in a real professional league, which still stands at 975. He’s also still a long way from Wayne Gretzky’s NHL goal total of 894 and the Great One’s overall professional goal total of 940.

As a music fan, I’ve long been faced with the question of whether I could separate the politics of the performer from the artistic work they produced. For the most part, the answer has been yes, even though many artists have politics that go against my own.

I don’t remember having to decide if I really liked a musician who supported a murderous dictatorial regime.

That is the question sports fans face now as Ovechkin tries to set more records.

Can you separate the man, who is without question an incredible athlete, from the causes that he supports, including the murder of political opponents and an invasion of another country?

If you can make that separation, it might be a sign that you need to engage in some self-reflection. If you can’t make that separation, maybe you should join the calls of those saying Ovechkin shouldn’t be celebrated no matter what he does.

Unless, of course, he walks away from his support for Putin, war and oppression.
 
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Whoopsies from another couple Millionaire’s that criticized Putin.

The millionaire's death is the latest in a series of unexplained deaths involving Russian tycoons since the start of the Russian invasion, many of whom have openly criticised the war.

Reports in Russian media said Mr Antov, 65, had fallen from a window at the hotel in the city of Rayagada on Sunday. Another member of his four-strong Russian group, Vladimir Budanov, died at the hotel on Friday.

Superintendent Vivekananda Sharma of Odisha police said Mr Budanov was found to have suffered a stroke while his friend "was depressed after his death and he too died". The Russian consul in Kolkata, Alexei Idamkin, told the Tass news agency that police did not see a "criminal element in these tragic events".

Pavel Antov founded the Vladimir Standard meat processing plant and in 2019 Forbes estimated his fortune at some $140m (£118m) at the top of Russia's rich list of lawmakers and civil servants.

Late last June he appeared to react to a Russian missile attack on a residential block in the Shevchenkivskyi district of Kyiv that left a man dead and his seven-year-old daughter and her mother wounded.

A WhatsApp message on Antov's account described how the family were pulled out of the rubble: "It's extremely difficult to call all this anything but terror." Then he fell out a window before he could fall down several flights of stairs while shooting himself in the head repeatedly.

The message was deleted and Antov then posted on social media that he was a supporter of the president, a "patriot of my country" and backed the war. Oh well.
At least he wasn’t “vacationing with his wife or children” so they didn’t fall out the window with him.
i guess they fell from favor. ;)
 

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Russia's rising star Dmitry Medvedev predicts war in West, Musk as U.S. president
Arch loyalist of Vladimir Putin given new job this week

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Published Dec 27, 2022 • 1 minute read

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, an arch loyalist of Vladimir Putin given a new job this week, predicted war between Germany and France next year and a civil war in the United States that would lead to Elon Musk becoming president.


Medvedev, deputy head of Putin’s advisory security council, served as president during a four-year spell when Putin held the office of prime minister. He appears to have seen his fortune rise in the Kremlin, which said on Monday he would now serve as Putin’s deputy on a body overseeing the military industry.


In his list of predictions for 2023, published on his personal Telegram and Twitter accounts, he also foresaw Britain rejoining the EU, which would in turn collapse.

Musk, the Tesla boss who now owns Twitter, responded to the suggestion he would emerge as U.S. president by tweeting back “Epic thread!!,” although he also criticized some of Medvedev’s predictions. Medvedev has praised Musk in the past for proposing Ukraine cede territory to Russia in a peace deal.



Since Russia’s Feb. 24 invasion of Ukraine, Medvedev has reinvented himself as an arch-hawk, framing the conflict in apocalyptic, religious terms and referring to Ukrainians as “cockroaches” in language Kyiv says is openly genocidal. Last week he made a rare foreign visit to China, holding talks on foreign policy with President Xi Jinping.

Political scientist Vladimir Pastukhov said Medvedev’s newly outspoken public persona appeared to have found favour with his boss.

“Medvedev’s Telegram posts have found at least one reader, and indeed an admirer: Putin,” Pastukhov, a political science professor at London’s University College London, wrote on his own Telegram.


 

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This is all of a piece with what Timothy Snyder said in his remarks at the end of his Yale lectures on the history of Ukraine that I linked to earlier-that if the Ukrainians kept doing well against the Russians then the Jews would be blamed.


Exiled chief rabbi says Jews should leave Russia while they can

Pinchas Goldschmidt warns Jewish population will be made scapegoat for hardship caused by war


Pinchas Goldschmidt also said that while Russia’s Jews faced an uncertain future, antisemitism was on the rise across Europe and the US

Moscow’s exiled chief rabbi says Jews should leave Russia while they still can, before they are made scapegoats for the hardship caused by the war in Ukraine.

“When we look back over Russian history, whenever the political system was in danger you saw the government trying to redirect the anger and discontent of the masses towards the Jewish community,” Pinchas Goldschmidt told the Guardian. “We saw this in tsarist times and at the end of the Stalinist regime.”

“We’re seeing rising antisemitism while Russia is going back to a new kind of Soviet Union, and step by step the iron curtain is coming down again. This is why I believe the best option for Russian Jews is to leave,” he added.

Goldschmidt resigned from his post and left Russia in July after refusing to back the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

“Pressure was put on community leaders to support the war and I refused to do so. I resigned because to continue as chief rabbi of Moscow would be a problem for the community because of the repressive measures taken against dissidents,” he said.

Russia’s Jews have been emigrating in their tens of thousands during the past 100 years, first to Europe and the Americas and more recently to Israel. According to the 1926 census there were 2,672,000 Jews in the then Soviet Union, 59% of them in Ukraine. Today only about 165,000 Jews remain in the Russian Federation out of a total population of 145 million.

Goldschmidt said he believed that since the war began, 25% to 30% of those who remained had left or were planning to do so, although there were now few flights out of Moscow and the price of a flight to Tel Aviv had quadrupled to about $2,000 (£1,625).

In July, the Russia’s government shut down the Russian branch of the Jewish Agency, a non-profit organisation that promotes immigration to Israel.

Overall, it is thought that about 200,000 Russians have fled Russia, an exodus that accelerated when conscription was introduced in September.

“There’s a section of Russian society called the creacle, the creative class of business and cultural leaders, intellectuals and artists,” said Goldschmidt said, “and I think it’s safe to say a great percentage of those people have left Russia, which is and will be very detrimental to Russian society.”

He said a large part of the Jewish community in Ukraine had also left and were now refugees in Germany, Austria and Romania.

Ukraine has a long history of antisemitism from pogroms at the end of the 19th century to facilitating Nazi massacres during the second world war. The most notorious of these was the murder of 33,000 Jews at Babi Yar in Kyiv in 1941.

Given this history, Goldschmidt said it was remarkable that Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who made no secret of his Jewishness, was elected Ukraine’s president with more 70% of the vote.

That fact made a nonsense of Vladimir Putin’s claim that Ukraine was being governed by neo-Nazis, the rabbi said. “Show me another country that is in the grip of Nazis where the Jewish community is thriving.

“However, I don’t know how Jewish the president [Zelenskiy] feels. He plays the Jewish card to ask Israel for help.”

Goldschmidt also noted that while Russia’s Jews faced an uncertain future, antisemitism was on the rise in what had long been seen as a Jewish sanctuary, the US.

In 2018, a gunman killed 11 worshippers in a Pittsburgh synagogue. Last year the Anti-Defamation League recorded a record 2,717 antisemitic incidents in the US, ranging from assault and harassment to vandalism.

“For many years, Jews in the US believed that it was an exception, that whatever happened in Europe and other countries could never happen there,” Goldschmidt said. “But over the past three years there have been more attacks on Jews there than in Europe.

“What is changing is the political system is much more polarised but also the discourse has been upended by social media. The polarisation we’re seeing has made antisemitism much more acceptable.”

Mayors of 53 cities across 23 countries met in Athens earlier this month to discuss how to combat the worldwide rise of antisemitism.

“We have to stop those forces that are trying to destroy Europe from within,” the rabbi said. “In the beginning, when there were attacks on Jewish schools like the one in Toulouse, people thought it was a Jewish problem. But after Charlie Hebdo, the attack in Nice and at the Christmas market in Berlin, Europe understood it was a European problem, not a Jewish problem. That’s what these mayors have to understand.”
 

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War is just terrible! A bad peace is better than any war!
I don't think you could make that argument very effectively. A bad peace is slavery for example. As bad as war is, i'd prefer that to being a slave. There are lots of situations where "peace" is less desirable than war. Sometimes you do have to fight for what is important. Are you saying that the Ukranians should give up and live under russian rule even though they don't want to? That would bring peace - would that be better than fighting back?

I don't think a bad peace is better than war. I think if it were we wouldn't have wars so much. War is very very bad. But there are worse things.
 

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Ukraine war has exposed gaps in Canadian Army's battlefield capabilities: general​


Commander Lt.-Gen. Joe Paul said there is now an unexpected rush to buy anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles as well as systems to protect against drones

And based on the liberal procurement methods, we should be up to speed and able to defend our country in just 20 short years! (hope nothing changes by then)