Oil Sand Myths

Cabbagesandking

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You stated burning oil only, not extraction. So you are saying that there is more carbon release when burning oil then there is for... say..... coal?
I am saying what I said. Does one sentence become too complicated. Does burning mean something different in your world? Have multiple meanings?
 

Cabbagesandking

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I will put it another way. It should not be needed, but! Oil, for burning, is an end product. 80% of the carbon content is emitted. Some is lost in the various processes used in gaining that end product.

That, though, is not important. If you want statistics, approximately 80% of the world's total emissions are from the use of fossil fuels in one way or another.
 

petros

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I will put it another way. It should not be needed, but! Oil, for burning, is an end product. 80% of the carbon content is emitted. Some is lost in the various processes used in gaining that end product.

That, though, is not important. If you want statistics, approximately 80% of the world's total emissions are from the use of fossil fuels in one way or another.
Is CO better or worse than CO2? How about the CH group?
 

Cabbagesandking

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Is CO better or worse than CO2? How about the CH group?
I don't see what you are getting at with CO. For the CH group, I assume that you are interested in CH4 - Methane?

Methane is responsible for 28% of the Greenhouse effect. Though it is far more potent than CO2, there is 200 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere. As a potential game changer the release of Methane is exaggerated. Methane is a transient gas in the atmosphere (it doe not stay there long) and it will take a very long time for concentrations to be of great concern. We need to address CO2 in that time so that Methane does not become a major factor.

What Methane does is degasify; oxidating into water vapour in the upper atmosphere. It is the CO2 induced warming that raises the threat from Methane.

If you want a better or fuller answer, you will have to ask one of our scientist contributors. Or look it up.
 

petros

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Why don't you understand? Did I mention CH4 or the entire CH group? One of your scientist contributors? How do I get on payroll?
 

taxslave

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I will put it another way. It should not be needed, but! Oil, for burning, is an end product. 80% of the carbon content is emitted. Some is lost in the various processes used in gaining that end product.

That, though, is not important. If you want statistics, approximately 80% of the world's total emissions are from the use of fossil fuels in one way or another.

How about burning wood?

How about burning wood?

He sounds like Cretin. A thing is a thing is a thingy.
 

Redmonton_Rebel

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Those who complain about the strip mining aspect obviously havne't been to Labrador City.

There's a major difference in strip mining for minerals and strip mining for petro-chemicals. Would we allow massive gold, copper or iron ore strip mines that covered hundreds of square kms, put out massive amounts of pollutants and seriously degraded a major Canadian watershed?

You really got to quit smoking crack.

Read the books and draw your own conclusions.

It's some of the most informed and educated people on the planet warning us about the dangers of uncontrolled exploitation of unconventional fossil fuels as well as coal and eventually conventional oil.

Why have experts if we're not going to listen to them, or professionals. Just for fun you could let the guy who tunes your car fly you on your next vacation or your priest/rabi/imam could perform your surgery the next time you need it.

Why do we even listen to the totally uniformed on this issue and that includes the "politicians" who are pretending to be our government at the moment.
 

Redmonton_Rebel

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ahhhh...I see.... you're one of the "experts" are you?

No, but I can read and comprehend above the level of a third grader.

Just read the IPCC 2007 Physical Report or any number of books and articles put out by people actually doing research in the field, not working for thinly disguised PR firms funded by the oil industry like ExxonMobil and GMI.

With all the valid information out there, it must take a pretty concerted effort to remain ignorant on the real situation around Global Warming.