Oil downturn drives 'Alberta invasion' across B.C. border
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Go to Quebec... I've had endless agruments with Queerbecers who claim not to be Canadian but just Quebecois. I asking them to show me their Quebec passport and they get pissed off... It's kinda funny to watch the meltdown.
There are a strong rift between east and western Canada and I think you can see that in our trade habits too... Most of our trade is North and South, not East and West.
We want a pipeline to the U.S., when we should have one going from Alberta to Ontario and have more refining right here in Canada..
We are so resource based we send our logs, oil, all our resources and buy back gasoline, clothing, paper from overseas and the U.S.
It's not a global economic catastrophy it's just a local downturn. Be all better after christmas.
Same as in Quebec, they have all been replaced with warehouse space..
Shjt imported from China then shipped out to local stores.. we do however have "assembly" plants, broom handles and mops shipped to Canada so "New Canadians" can assemble them here in Canada and say "Made in Canada" on the label. :lol:
So the way that the ball bounces.
I wonder if Curious Cdn has already labelled all those folks that traveled from the East coast, Ontario, Que, etc as 'itinerant' persons for the unholy transgression of going to where the work was.
.. Guess that you're always better off getting on welfare or EI as opposed to buddy thinking you're itinerant.
I wonder if Curious Cdn has already labelled all those folks that traveled from the East coast, Ontario, Que, etc as 'itinerant' persons for the unholy transgression of going to where the work was.
.. Guess that you're always better off getting on welfare or EI as opposed to buddy thinking you're itinerant.
It is overwhealmingly busy. We are currently experiencing record volumes of sales and there aren't enough hours in the day (I spent half of my day I the plant, today and there are shifts running all weekend) Are we an anomaly? The highways are jammed almost around the clock. The malls as full. Housing continues to go up, up. (Gulp!)
The lower Canadian dollar is like high nitrogen fertilizer to industrial Ontario. The downturn is localized to the West. It just seems like the end of the world to you in Alberta because you all fly so very high during bom times.
It's fun (and easy) to get a rise out of Alberta. Anyway, why is your big complaint? You guys control the governance of the country right now and maybe into the future for a little bit more. One sixth controls the other five sixths.
Well, I earm my living manufacturing and have done so for thirty years. I have never been jobless, unemployed or laid off during that period. Certain categories of manufacturing have take a ****kicking in all Western countries, Canada as well but the is still a healthy and vigorous manufacturing core, here and thank God for it. If there weren't, the whole country would be subject to the violent feast-or-famine swings of the resource based sectors and there would be serious problems coast to coast right now and not just in Calgary.
I get a kick out of those who blame the new government who are primarily using the
Tory budget with a few revisions. The government of Alberta regardless of who is the
power base is experiencing problems because they did not diversify their economy
years ago.
There was already a debt mounting and all that was needed was a drop in prices of oil
It will take some time and there are no simple solutions to solve the problem. Actually
they should have taken more off the top for a heritage fund the previous Premiers spent
on incidentals. Peter Lougheed was a stand up guy who was not afraid to tax for the
right reasons and he likely would have done things a lot different that Getty or Prentice.
The current government is facing challenges that built up over the last six y ears
Tory budget with a few revisions. The government of Alberta regardless of who is the
power base is experiencing problems because they did not diversify their economy
years ago.
There was already a debt mounting and all that was needed was a drop in prices of oil
It will take some time and there are no simple solutions to solve the problem. Actually
they should have taken more off the top for a heritage fund the previous Premiers spent
on incidentals. Peter Lougheed was a stand up guy who was not afraid to tax for the
right reasons and he likely would have done things a lot different that Getty or Prentice.
The current government is facing challenges that built up over the last six y ears
It's too bad that you know so little about your countrymen. You must live in a tiny, perfect place that doesn't need to know what most Canadians are up to.
We manufacture complex and expensive building components out of mostly extruded aluminum shapes (all of Canadian origin), that go into new building construction around North America. That sort of fabrication is done well in this country and has gradually replaced the "identical widget" manufacturing that left for Chin, Japan, etc over the last several decades. The keys to success are A) a large custom element to whatever you make and B) an engineering intensive product that requires a well educated workforce to produce. The first part keeps the work from going to China and the second part gives an edge over the Mexicans and rust belt Americans. The low dollar is tbetort as we make our stuff in Canadian dollars and get paid the same #of dollars except that they are US currency. The other side is that a lot of manufacturing left the US rust belt because their dollar as so striong for so long. No one could afford to buy US products except for other Americans.
The obvious question is why is Alberta not processing crude petroleum into higher,value added products?
The answer of course, is that the Gulf-based petroleum industry is totally in charge of Alberta, not any government and Alberta does what is good for big oil, always, and not what is good for Albertans.
... and you are not even allowed to question the power dynamic. That makes Calgary some sort of fiefdom and not some sort of democracy.
Unemployment is a problem in the martimes right now, so it isn,t just about Calgary Alberta. Globally it's about the currency war and that is affecting everyone.
I know that you are a full-on azzhole... Does that count?
It is pretty sweet... Damned near perfect other than the transfer payments
Aluminum siding
The corrugated stuff is probably even more complex
The glaringly obvious answer is that you can't pipeline extremely high volatility liquids, under pressure, long distances.... Maybe you folks in the siding manufacturing business aren't too concerned about massive explosions, but we here in AB are.
Where Ontario in this?... A P/L or 2 could be constructed in your backyard and you'd be able to profit from all that value-added bennie.
... The conspiracy theory is interesting and all, but yet again, you are horribly mistaken
Enough out of you peon... Go fetch me a beer
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You're a bit if work, aren't you? You want us to fail, don't you?
PS, it is far, far more complex product than "aluminum siding". Any idiot can rollform siding, anywhere. All you have to do is buy the machine from Germans, who will laugh at you all the way to the bank and buy the coil from someone in Ontario.
Nice try, genius. You must be in need of employment.
It will be interesting to see the transfer payments going west, again.I know that you are a full-on azzhole... Does that count?
It is pretty sweet... Damned near perfect other than the transfer payments
Aluminum siding
The corrugated stuff is probably even more complex
The glaringly obvious answer is that you can't pipeline extremely high volatility liquids, under pressure, long distances.... Maybe you folks in the siding manufacturing business aren't too concerned about massive explosions, but we here in AB are.
Where Ontario in this?... A P/L or 2 could be constructed in your backyard and you'd be able to profit from all that value-added bennie.
... The conspiracy theory is interesting and all, but yet again, you are horribly mistaken
Enough out of you peon... Go fetch me a beer
You're a bit if work, aren't you? You want us to fail, don't you?
PS, it is far, far more complex product than "aluminum siding". Any idiot can rollform siding, anywhere. All you have to do is buy the machine from Germans, who will laugh at you all the way to the bank and buy the coil from someone in Ontario.
Nice try, genius. You must be in need of employment.
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How come the price of gas is $1.11/ltr, it was that price before the drop in oil prices a year ago.
