Ah yes! Let's destroy what is left of our coastal wild life and fisheries so we turn this planet into a desolate wasteland of oil puking machines. Sorry but we need to be looking at alternatives to the stupidity of oil.
Off-shore oil drilling - good or bad?
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I suppose that will come in time, to people's benefit, but meanwhile a lot of people are scared sh*tless of nuclear energy for no real valid reason.
We have discussed this before many times and I will ask again. Other than nuclear, hydroelectric what is a viable sustainable clean energy source that we could develop. We need power now, these sources have to be developed now.
Why shouldn't every generation pay for their own energy needs been going on for years. Every generation has come up with a solution for their own particular problems, I hope we aren't saying that there to dumb to figure it out. Right now this minuet we have oil, natural gas, nuclear hydroelectric and coal. Now we are beginning to phase out coal, ok what will it be replaced by? Nothing so far, all the other so called renewable energy (solar, wind, tidal etc. are pipe dream's at this moment, none can even come close to replacing coal. We haven't even improved the method of power transmission from the source to our homes. Still using 1900 technology. (It will break down soon and have to be replaced) Lets just keep going, keeping people working, keep increasing the efficiency of our farms. Invest money in our future, not sacrifice what we now have. We live good lives, our children deserve atleast what we had and even more. Find solutions to problems thru science.
That isn't what I meant. I meant that because of the greed I mentioned and the urge to work for enough to buy food instead of growing or trading for it, we ruin a part of the planet to let our youngsters deal with.
Our kids DO deserve a good life, and ruining the planet by killing off other species, fouling it up with junk like oil, taking over farmland to build residences for more and more people just serves to give them degraded lives.
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We live meaningless lives, mindlessly consuming the planet, working ourselves into early graves to feed our stupid habits. Mentally and emotionally we are still living in the caves. We just have more sophisticated toys. 80% or more of what we consume is un-necessary to our well being and mostly detrimental. TV has turned us into the Borg.
We don't need more power, we need to grow up and stop wasting what we have.
We don't need more power, we need to grow up and stop wasting what we have.
We're not desperate for this oil now. Because China cannot have as many cars as we have or we will need three new planets. Being in an age of resource depletion, offshore drlling for SUVs is insanity to me.
I don't think biofuels could ever replace nuclear or any major power source we use today with the exception of running our cars which is can do now very inefficiently. Produces about 1/3 less energy than gasoline.
Geothermal - tap the magma in areas where it is relatively close to the surface, like here where there is a lot of hot springs, Yellowstone, etc.
Sounds like something out of a Sci-Fi movie, that could work, did in Iceland. Wonder how the technology is, would it be able to control the amount power that Yellowstone could produce and get it to where it was needed.
Any house on a 1 acre or so lot could heat itself with geothermal quite cheaply; the installation cost is significant, but not impossible. I would have considered it for my house, but most of the lot is rock, so it would have been economically crazy.
Instead, we went to air-air heat pump, which is still far cheaper than the alternatives.
Instead, we went to air-air heat pump, which is still far cheaper than the alternatives.
How is the heat pump on real cold days? Friend of mine uses one in Tennessee, but supplements it with a wood burning fireplace in Winter.
When the outside temp is -10C or below, there is an electric that kicks in to supplement the heat pump. (if we had gas here, I would have had it with a gas supplemental, but we don't have gas in our neighborhood).
Works well, I have no issues.
Works better in industrial facilities. The company that I work for produces biofuel out of logging waste for firing boilers in the local pulp mill and we are working towards other markets. There are several companies that produce the equipment necessary. Look at nexterra.ca for some of their projects. It requires thinking differently about how energy is supplied to the market. Garbage and sewer sludge can also be mixed in which helps eliminate massive land fills.
There are two reasons I support offshore oil on the west coast.
1 It will create a lot of high paying jobs in an area that desperately needs them
2 It will produce significant tax revenues for the province.
1 It will create a lot of high paying jobs in an area that desperately needs them
2 It will produce significant tax revenues for the province.
Yes
We need the oil and we will need it until everybody converts to an alternate energy source.
We will have to learn not to eat fish for a while.
Maybe this will give us the incentive to convert faster.
We need the oil and we will need it until everybody converts to an alternate energy source.
We will have to learn not to eat fish for a while.
Maybe this will give us the incentive to convert faster.