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Yeah JLM.

Why, your grand children may even enjoy frolicking about in an area rife with human waste, heroin, crack and meth. In fact, the little tykes may probably have the opportunity to learn first-hand about rape as they stand a chance of seeing it happen in real-time, real-life.

Please JLM, for the sake of the kids, don't deny your grand children this glorious opportunity.

That's amazing, that all OWS protesters were required to take heroin, crack, and meth, as well as crap on the streets. No wonder they have a hard time getting their message out.
 

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Yeah JLM.

Why, your grand children may even enjoy frolicking about in an area rife with human waste, heroin, crack and meth. In fact, the little tykes may probably have the opportunity to learn first-hand about rape as they stand a chance of seeing it happen in real-time, real-life.

Please JLM, for the sake of the kids, don't deny your grand children this glorious opportunity.

Well, yeah, that would be the extreme case all right. LOL The problem is they are trying to convey a message that 75% of the fat corporate world are a bunch of crooks. OK, most of us already understand that, it doesn't take 100 thousand people in 10 thousand cities over a period of several months to make that point. The fat cats can understand it too. They don't care and anything short of passing a law won't make them change. What will make them change is when people quit patronizing their products. I'll bet a good portion of the people making the noise wouldn't even qualify for a loan from a pay day loan shark. That is how pitiful the whole charade is.
 

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It began on Sept. 17 with a few hundred people gathering in lower Manhattan. The protest — against banks, moneyed influence in Washington, corporate power, and a host of other loose causes — rated only sparse mention at first, even in the local press. Their targets saw them as goofy.

No more. Police this week rousted protesters from their Zuccotti Park encampment in a maneuver planned with military precision. Today the Occupiers — this time, by the thousands — were back on the march, swarming the streets around the New York Stock Exchange, clashing with police, and enraging stock exchange employees.

So at two months, what are Occupy Wall Street’s wins and losses?

Wins
Bank fees: Every time you use your Bank of America debit card and don’t pay $5, thank Occupy Wall Street. The decision by big banks earlier this month to roll back their debit-card fees marks the first successful popular uprising by consumers against fees. And, considering the banks’ years-long success in loading them up, that’s no small achievement. Yes, much of the pressure came from the Bank Transfer Day effort, led by Kristen Christian, a Los Angeles art gallery owner who isn’t a direct supporter of OWS (that’s her logo to the right). But the debit fees never would have been rolled back — and 40,000 people wouldn’t have transfered accounts to credit unions — without the accelerant provided by OWS.

read more:
Occupy Wall Street After 2 Months: A Scorecard - Yahoo! Finance
 

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Here's the latest winner. A prick lying about his military service record. Maybe to impress the ladies, who knows. Still a schmuck.



Army records at odds with Occupy veteran's claims



Updated: November 23, 2011, 10:30 AM
The claims of a dedicated member of the Occupy Buffalo movement that he saw combat in Iraq and Afghanistan are not supported by Army records.
Christopher M. Simmance has told several media outlets, including The Buffalo News, that he served as many as three tours of duty in those war zones and that he was severely injured in Afghanistan.
Service records obtained from the Army, however, show he was stationed at Fort Lewis, Wash., for three years and he left the active-duty Army in January 2001 -- before the 9/11 terror attacks.
Simmance insists his Army records are incomplete. He told The News he stands by his claims of seeing combat.
"Everything I've told you is completely true; I've got nothing to hide," Simmance said in one of three interviews.
People close to Simmance told The News they initially believed his claims of wartime deployments but they grew disenchanted when they discovered he was exaggerating his military service.
"I cannot confirm any of what he said," Denise Simmance, his mother, told The News.
Simmance has been interviewed numerous times by local media outlets since join ing the Occupy Buffalo movement, where he has been a constant presence since the protesters began camping out in front of City Hall early last month.
* In an Oct. 23 interview with The News, Simmance identified himself as a former staff sergeant with the U.S. Army Special Forces who was wounded by a rocket-propelled grenade while serving in Afghanistan.
* Eleven days earlier, his photo accompanied a News article about Occupy Buffalo, after Simmance told a staff photographer he was a veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
* And an Oct. 11 story on Channel 4's website refers to Simmance as an "Army Special Services" sergeant. Simmance told the TV station he saw combat in Afghanistan, Iraq and Gaza and he claimed he only has 10 years to live because of his injuries.
* Simmance was interviewed in The News for the first time in February 2008. He said then that he saw combat while serving with an international peacekeeping force in the Middle East in 2001, with no reference to Afghanistan or Iraq.
* In November 2008, in another News article, Simmance said he was taking up to four prescription drugs a day, and had seen four or five psychiatrists for his post-traumatic stress disorder.
After the most recent News article ran, two people who know Simmance contacted the newspaper to say he had exaggerated his Army service.
An Army public affairs officer told The News by email that records show Simmance served in the active-duty Army from Jan. 12, 1998 to Jan. 11, 2001.
Simmance left active-duty service with the rank of E4, or specialist, not staff sergeant, according to Army records, and he was stationed at Fort Lewis for the duration of his active-duty service.




more on this loser


Army records at odds with Occupy veteran's claims - City & Region - The Buffalo News




 

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For all those who keep asking what this is about this says it all.



Yeah JLM.

Why, your grand children may even enjoy frolicking about in an area rife with human waste, heroin, crack and meth. In fact, the little tykes may probably have the opportunity to learn first-hand about rape as they stand a chance of seeing it happen in real-time, real-life.

Please JLM, for the sake of the kids, don't deny your grand children this glorious opportunity.

That describes a lot of parks in a lot of places without any protesters. I would have to guess that you are one of the few who make a living from corporatism which would explain your inane depiction of all the occupy movement as junkies and rapists and your verdant support for the banksters and money-men controlling our governments and your support for the use of force on peaceful people.
 

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For all those who keep asking what this is about this says it all.





That describes a lot of parks in a lot of places without any protesters. I would have to guess that you are one of the few who make a living from corporatism which would explain your inane depiction of all the occupy movement as junkies and rapists and your verdant support for the banksters and money-men controlling our governments and your support for the use of force on peaceful people.

I've forgotten about characterizing any of them as being rapists, one girl at a site did die from a drug over dose.
 

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I've forgotten about characterizing any of them as being rapists, one girl at a site did die from a drug over dose.

Holy cow!!! One girl died out of 100 thousand or so protesters and they are all heroin using crack-heads. One as of yet unproven story of a rape and they are all rapists.

I would have to question how many out of 100 thousand die from drugs each and every day across the US. Could it possibly be more than or about equal to 1/100,000? Just thought this ratio was something to be considered in this discussion of how horrible these occupiers are.
 

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Holy cow!!! One girl died out of 100 thousand or so protesters and they are all heroin using crack-heads. One as of yet unproven story of a rape and they are all rapists.

I would have to question how many out of 100 thousand die from drugs each and every day across the US. Could it possibly be more than or about equal to 1/100,000? Just thought this ratio was something to be considered in this discussion of how horrible these occupiers are.

Where did I say they were all crack heads?
 

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It began on Sept. 17 with a few hundred people gathering in lower Manhattan. The protest — against banks, moneyed influence in Washington, corporate power, and a host of other loose causes — rated only sparse mention at first, even in the local press. Their targets saw them as goofy.

No more. Police this week rousted protesters from their Zuccotti Park encampment in a maneuver planned with military precision. Today the Occupiers — this time, by the thousands — were back on the march, swarming the streets around the New York Stock Exchange, clashing with police, and enraging stock exchange employees.

So at two months, what are Occupy Wall Street’s wins and losses?

Wins
Bank fees: Every time you use your Bank of America debit card and don’t pay $5, thank Occupy Wall Street. The decision by big banks earlier this month to roll back their debit-card fees marks the first successful popular uprising by consumers against fees. And, considering the banks’ years-long success in loading them up, that’s no small achievement. Yes, much of the pressure came from the Bank Transfer Day effort, led by Kristen Christian, a Los Angeles art gallery owner who isn’t a direct supporter of OWS (that’s her logo to the right). But the debit fees never would have been rolled back — and 40,000 people wouldn’t have transfered accounts to credit unions — without the accelerant provided by OWS.

read more:
Occupy Wall Street After 2 Months: A Scorecard - Yahoo! Finance


Good article. It's refreshing to have some intelligence in this thread when it's not occupied (oh ho ho) by tools.

Occupy Toronto says movement isn't dead
'You can't evict an idea,' protester says as mayor praises peaceful park dismantling


Occupy Toronto protesters say their movement did not die when police dismantled their tents and ended a five-week occupation of a downtown park on Wednesday.

City workers were busy Thursday cleaning St. James Park, the site of an Occupy Toronto encampment since Oct. 15. Some residents visited the park for the first time since the protest began.

While enforcing an eviction order, police working with about 100 city workers cleared the tents and other belongings on Wednesday.

Protester Shawn Williams said the Occupy movement, which is focused on addressing global economic disparity, will continue.

“You can’t evict an idea; we’re still strong,” protester Williams told CBC News.

“We’ve been doing this for 40 days now. I do not expect us to stop any time soon,” he said.

Hundreds of protesters marched through the financial district Thursday and also met to discuss future moves. Protesters say they're meeting with community groups to find a new home, but plan to get permission this time.

'Public safety was never at risk'

The operation to remove the protesters’ tents happened without violent clashes between police and protesters.

Toronto police Chief Bill Blair told CBC’s Metro Morning on Thursday that the protesters' commitment to non-violence was key to the success of the operation. “There was good co-operation between ourselves and the protesters,” Blair told host Matt Galloway. “They were attempting to make their point in a peaceful way. Public safety was never at risk during this event.”

Occupy Toronto says movement isn't dead - Toronto - CBC News
 
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They want to prolong the protest? Why? What other points have they yet to make?
You expect someone to step up to a mike and say, "You are screwing up the planet and we are pissed" and go home? What good would that do? The occupy movement is about staying until they stop screwing up the planet and its residents. If you are content the way things are, you don't understand what is going on. My father and his brothers fought in WWII for the freedom of this country so that people had a democratic right to protest the kind of actions that are contrary to our charter of rights and freedoms. What the government is doing is contrary to those rights and you cheer them on. Are you for freedom or are you for a police state - Big Brother?
 

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The planet is fine. It's those living on it that are screwed.
I don't think the planet is fine. I do think the planet, Mother Earth, is pissed and that the change necessary for balance to be achieved will come from her. Thousands of her children, animals, plants and bugs are going extinct or are extinct, strip mining, industrial pollution, islands the size of Texas of floating garbage in the dead zone of her oceans - this is not fine. When the tsunami in south East Asia hit a few years ago, I said it was the beginning of the cleansing. The frequency and intensity of storms is increasing and although climate change is part of the equation, Momma is expressing her anger. She is pissed, and we had better clean up our act or face her wrath.
 

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The planet is fine. It's those living on it that are screwed.

Indeed.

Black Friday pepper-spray attack injures 20
Other isolated incidents reported during biggest shopping day in U.S.


Black Friday, the biggest U.S. shopping day, has taken some unfortunate turns — including at one Los Angeles-area Wal-Mart where a woman allegedly used pepper spray to gain an edge over fellow shoppers and injured 20 people.

The pepper-spray incident happened shortly after the store opened Thursday evening as shoppers prowled the aisles for discounts.

Elsewhere, police in Fayetteville, N.C., were searching for two suspects after gunshots rang out at a local mall early Friday. And two women in upstate New York were facing charges after a fight broke out at a Wal-Mart.

In New York and St. Petersburg, Fla., reports said shopping areas were busy, with lineups as long as 2,000 people waiting for stores to open. The attraction, of course, was cut-rate prices, some as much as 70 per cent off, often the lowest of the year.

"It's hard times, so, any discount helps," one man told The Associated Press in Seminole, Fla.

Black Friday pepper-spray attack injures 20 - World - CBC News
 

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You expect someone to step up to a mike and say, "You are screwing up the planet and we are pissed" and go home? What good would that do? The occupy movement is about staying until they stop screwing up the planet and its residents. If you are content the way things are, you don't understand what is going on. My father and his brothers fought in WWII for the freedom of this country so that people had a democratic right to protest the kind of actions that are contrary to our charter of rights and freedoms. What the government is doing is contrary to those rights and you cheer them on. Are you for freedom or are you for a police state - Big Brother?

Cliff, what they are doing hasn't worked so far. If you try something two or three times and it's not working it isn't going to work, unless the procedure changes. The change in procedure I would suggest they try is to quit patronizing the fat cats, which could include quit buying booze and cigarettes, quit carrying credit card debt, quit buying the consumer items they produce. The best thing they could do is find an honest fat cat to be their spokesman, if you want to influence a group, find one member of the group to start with.
 

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Cliff, what they are doing hasn't worked so far.


So at two months, what are Occupy Wall Street’s wins?

Bank fees: Every time you use your Bank of America debit card and don’t pay $5, thank Occupy Wall Street. The decision by big banks earlier this month to roll back their debit-card fees marks the first successful popular uprising by consumers against fees. And, considering the banks’ years-long success in loading them up, that’s no small achievement. Yes, much of the pressure came from the Bank Transfer Day effort, led by Kristen Christian, a Los Angeles art gallery owner who isn’t a direct supporter of OWS (that’s her logo to the right). But the debit fees never would have been rolled back — and 40,000 people wouldn’t have transfered accounts to credit unions — without the accelerant provided by OWS.

Changing the national conversation: Coming out of the summer, the economic debate in Washington was dominated by talk of cutting the deficit — not jobs, not the wealth disparity in America, and certainly not the role of money in politics. Today that has shifted. Part of my job here each morning is to aggregate stories about the wealth debate; the volume of candidates is impressive. You can see the change in a Google Trends chart of web searches and news references for the term “income inequality.” An analysis of the #OWS Twitter hashtag (thanks to my colleague Dan Fletcher) shows a rise over the past month, spiking ahead of the Zuccotti police action.
There’s been a more subtle shift. Note the number of times that Occupy Wall Street is used as a reference point in analyses of issues ranging from mortgage relief to student loans to taxation. It has lent urgency and weight to what may have seemed like dry policy discussions. In Washington, the GOP in general remains dismissive of the protests. Some on the right support the criticism of corporate bailouts, though they see the protesters as misguided. President Obama first mentioned (as best I can tell) OWS on Oct. 6, going to great lengths to frame the movement around his own policy proposals. His press secretary has taken questions on the movement at nearly every press conference since then.

Getting Wall Street’s attention: Perhaps even more impressive is how OWS has seeped into Wall Street’s own conversation. This is partly due to the early attention paid by a few influential financial bloggers, such as bank critic Barry Ritholtz. But bankers were clearly stung by the 1% tag and angered by suggestions they hadn’t earned their bonuses. An Oct. 11 march to the Upper East Side Manhattan homes of JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon and hedge fund chief John Paulson got moguls’ attention. OWS even began popping up as a “risk factor” in several corporate financial filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in analyst briefings. As Footnoted.org pointed out, in the financial world this is as good an indication as any that a movement has “truly arrived.”

read more:

Occupy Wall Street After 2 Months: A Scorecard - Finance

The best thing they could do is find an honest fat cat to be their spokesman, if you want to influence a group, find one member of the group to start with.

You mean like leading economist, Jeffrey Sachs?

 
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I don't think the planet is fine. I do think the planet, Mother Earth, is pissed and that the change necessary for balance to be achieved will come from her. Thousands of her children, animals, plants and bugs are going extinct or are extinct, strip mining, industrial pollution, islands the size of Texas of floating garbage in the dead zone of her oceans - this is not fine. When the tsunami in south East Asia hit a few years ago, I said it was the beginning of the cleansing. The frequency and intensity of storms is increasing and although climate change is part of the equation, Momma is expressing her anger. She is pissed, and we had better clean up our act or face her wrath.
We are to blame for the last mass die off 13,000 years ago? Carbon and miners killed the sabre tooth tiger?
 

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The planet is fine. It's those living on it that are screwed.

There's a story about a man who was busy reading the newspaper while his little boy was pestering him. The man took a page from the paper with a map of the world on it and cut it up like a jigsaw puzzle threw it on the floor and said see if you can assembly to make a map of the world. A very short time later the boy had it put back together. The man, amazed asked "how did you do that so quickly". The boy replied "on the back side was a picture of a man, when the man is right, the world is right." I know it's corny.