Occupy Wall Street Fail

ironsides

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Iceland sent all decisions to a vote by all the voters, the 'newly' elected Govt was there to count the votes. Being as some of the old Gov was being sent to jail I would bet the counting was bang on every time. Our original Constitution gave the option for a vote by all voters to take place on issues dealing with constitutional matters. If that was an agreement made by 10 Sovereign Nations (Provinces and Territories) then votes that affect Sovereign Nations should also be taken on a vote by all the voters, War and Bailouts. Given that option would we have the same foreign policy that is in active place today? I'm not even suggesting abandoning the old ones, I'm more in favor of enforcing the old (humane ones), then some updates to keep up with the times could be implemented. If given a choice in which way I want to see everything hit the drain I would rather go the way of Iceland's solution and being able to get away with it as she was an energy producing and exporting Nation. The other way would seem to be the way of Cairo, Revolution with no real change in the status of the poor so one year later another uprising because of a non-responsive Govt'. Let the new Gov take out a loan on 'projected' tourist site once a deal had been signed for all the 'mag-lev trains'. Spend the money now and put wheels under it (so to speak) and the 'grand-kids' only have to do minor repairs to keep it operating. The banks only care about having outstanding loans out.

Canada should declare everybody 18 and over as war-ready and as such entitled to vote on National issues. At 12 they would have a vote on school and community, both groups getting generous grants from 'the Gov/Client ID'. The collateral would be the next generation of 'clients' who start off with that money in their hands (so to speak) and by death they should have spent it all. I doubt very many would vote for 'war' as the preferred method of death, let one 100M in 100 years. That money spent would have gone to other things rather than not have existed.The classic catch-22 of war existing means insanity exists also, then spending twice as much to keep the peace makes better business sense, while sounding as the worst solution. Money and free time don't fit together all that well for a lot of people. having a society where your wallet is still 2/3 full at the end of every day. Once food and shelter are secure most people in that sort of circumstance tend to dwell into the creative arts rather than dreaming up new and better ways to kill the same enemy that is still alive after the last big purchase of the same basic stuff to do the same basic thing. Stuff that never actually got used even slightly, some people would conclude 'then maybe the threat isn't all that real'. Iran/iraq war proved that tanks/artillary ended in a stalemate, the only difference in the drawn lines was the age of the people loading the guns. The longer the war the lower the age, as long as there were shell to be loaded and fired the Gov would have found the people to do just that.

As to which method is best, How long ago did Iceland take the first steps to solving it's financial woes and when is the last time they have been in the World News?

Iceland should qualify for power exports, running the cables would be the expensive part of the operation, plug it into the place the wind generators were at. That would make Icelanders permanent holidaymakers for the most part , as long as Europe lived.(the 1% needed to keep it running were paid really well though) Tesla wireless might even make a retro return. If you had a car and a pair of 6ft antennas you were in business (as rumors have it)

The cops using pepper spray should be arrested for feeding the homeless since FOX declared pepper a food.

Don't believe what you just wrote: "Canada should declare everybody 18 and over as war-ready and as such entitled to vote on National issues." War ready??? Iceland is still in trouble, there just being quiet about it and Europe and the world have bigger countries to worry about.
 

PoliticalNick

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I seem to remember that way back in April I predicted that the biggest financial collapse was yet to come and would hit sometime in 2012. The bail-outs from 2008-2011 were only staving off the real collapse. This upcoming one will make 2008 look like a kindergarden cake-walk. I hope everyone is ready.
 

JLM

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I seem to remember that way back in April I predicted that the biggest financial collapse was yet to come and would hit sometime in 2012. The bail-outs from 2008-2011 were only staving off the real collapse. This upcoming one will make 2008 look like a kindergarden cake-walk. I hope everyone is ready.

Yes, I don't think many are paying attention, Nick. Everything is on credit these days. If you want to look at a good analogy, just think of a person building a sky scraper using nothing bigger than 2 X 4s, how high is that building going to get before the whole sh*teree comes tumbling down? Well, that exactly the situation today at about the 20 storey level. 1929 is going to look like a Sunday School picnic before long. :smile:
 

PoliticalNick

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Yes, I don't think many are paying attention, Nick. Everything is on credit these days. If you want to look at a good analogy, just think of a person building a sky scraper using nothing bigger than 2 X 4s, how high is that building going to get before the whole sh*teree comes tumbling down? Well, that exactly the situation today at about the 20 storey level. 1929 is going to look like a Sunday School picnic before long. :smile:

I think the really smart people are going to get their money out of the markets and out of the banks and into gold and silver (real gold and silver not some cheap certificate) real soon. Then go out and run up as much credit card debt and other debt as possible because once the banks collapse entirely there will be nobody to collect all the money owed. Might as well get what you can what you can while you can. There will be no government bail-out this time, there can't be, the govt is broke and has no credit left.
 

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I think the really smart people are going to get their money out of the markets and out of the banks and into gold and silver (real gold and silver not some cheap certificate) real soon. Then go out and run up as much credit card debt and other debt as possible because once the banks collapse entirely there will be nobody to collect all the money owed. Might as well get what you can what you can while you can. There will be no government bail-out this time, there can't be, the govt is broke and has no credit left.
I hope you're running up your debt.

Would you mind exchanging email addresses? I might be able to help you out when the world comes to an end. Or not.

That shiny useless mineral stuff you can keep though.
 

JLM

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I think the really smart people are going to get their money out of the markets and out of the banks and into gold and silver (real gold and silver not some cheap certificate) real soon. Then go out and run up as much credit card debt and other debt as possible because once the banks collapse entirely there will be nobody to collect all the money owed. Might as well get what you can what you can while you can. There will be no government bail-out this time, there can't be, the govt is broke and has no credit left.

Bad time to buy gold, Nick, it's getting close to if not at the end of it's run up. Time to buy it was when it was $400 an oz. or better still $35 an oz. (when I was in my prime) :lol:
 

PoliticalNick

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I hope you're running up your debt.

Would you mind exchanging email addresses? I might be able to help you out when the world comes to an end. Or not.

That shiny useless mineral stuff you can keep though.

My master plan is to run up about 2-3 million in bad debt and investments and then go to the govt hat in hand and claim I am too big to go bankrupt...I have put on some pounds lately. They will have no choice but to give me a bail-out as the precedent has been set. :lol:

Bad time to buy gold, Nick, it's getting close to if not at the end of it's run up. Time to buy it was when it was $400 an oz. or better still $35 an oz. (when I was in my prime) :lol:

You think gold is expensive now just wait until all you paper money and investments are worth much, much less than the paper they are printed on. Only thing thats gonna be worth more next year is food and gas. 8O
 

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You think gold is expensive now just wait until all you paper money and investments are worth much, much less than the paper they are printed on. Only thing thats gonna be worth more next year is food and gas. 8O

Now you are talking some sense, Nick- buy a big deep freeze.............it might save you from going hungry even if you don't save much money. There is a limit to how much food will go up too! It would be stupid to have to throw away food because folks can't afford to buy it. There's probably going to be a lot of filet mignon going into hamburger. :lol:
 

PoliticalNick

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Now you are talking some sense, Nick- buy a big deep freeze.............it might save you from going hungry even if you don't save much money. There is a limit to how much food will go up too! It would be stupid to have to throw away food because folks can't afford to buy it. There's probably going to be a lot of filet mignon going into hamburger. :lol:

We can always turn all the bankers and politicians into Soylent Green 8O
 

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Definitely the high road:





I can hear all the forum right wingers applauding with great vigor over this gem of a photo.

The silence tells us all we need to know. Nobody cares. The Black Panthers right to bear arms hasn't been questioned. You must be miserable about that.

It's a non-story.

Now, imagine if you will, the tea party parading with assult weapons like that. Media heads would be exploding all over the U.S. It would be front page news in every paper, lead story on every network. It would be hailed as proof of the racist war-mongering nature of the beast.
 

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I think the really smart people are going to get their money out of the markets and out of the banks and into gold and silver (real gold and silver not some cheap certificate) real soon. Then go out and run up as much credit card debt and other debt as possible because once the banks collapse entirely there will be nobody to collect all the money owed. Might as well get what you can what you can while you can. There will be no government bail-out this time, there can't be, the govt is broke and has no credit left.

That time was a year ago.
 

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DaSleeper

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It was the man's right as it was the duty of the police to keep an eye one him. As we have read different states have different laws about how close you get to a political figure with a loaded weapon. Keep it holstered and concealed and you will have no problem.

I recall that video..and when another station showed the complete video unedited...it was a Black dude, not a white guy.
 

PoliticalNick

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Ain't going to happen Nick. Why bother with the DOW?

Oh yeah I keep forgetting how rosy the global economy is. The eurozone is going bankrupt, the banks are barely surviving and want more money from the feds, the markets are more volatile than sulfuric acid, the G20 governments have mortgaged our great great great granchildrens futures, most industrialized countries have 12% unemployment or more....everything is just fine and looking great!
 

JLM

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Oh yeah I keep forgetting how rosy the global economy is. The eurozone is going bankrupt, the banks are barely surviving and want more money from the feds, the markets are more volatile than sulfuric acid, the G20 governments have mortgaged our great great great granchildrens futures, most industrialized countries have 12% unemployment or more....everything is just fine and looking great!

The greatest indicator of all is right down town at your local super market and liquor store and next time you drive by the car dealerships look at the inventory of new vehicles on the lot. We don't know what hard times are in this country.