Obama's Grandmother Passed Away

Tonington

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Numbnuts, he was right about the sympathy vote. Get your head out of your butt and think for a change...

Sympathy votes was the reasoning for DB saying Obama's people would be ecstatic, the evidence for the premise. GerryH said DB was heartless. You responded that DB was right.

Given A, B is what DB has said. Only B doesn't follow from A. Follow that? I guess it's too much to ask that you might understand that...
 

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DB

when we cease to have human responses to human experiences - whether it's to an tragedy in Iraq or in America - what's the point of 'railing against the machine' anymore? What are you trying to preserve if not that which defines us not just as humans, but as humane humans?

Selectively applying humane responses is one step closer to relinquishing your hold on your own humanity.
 

darkbeaver

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I don't care who you are - losing a member of your family is a hard thing. By all accounts, he was very close with his grandmother, and I'm sure he's feeling the loss.

Some things just shouldn't ever be fodder for mocking.

Death of a loved one - that's one of 'em.

Some things should just never be mocked, this monster isn't one of them. I'm sure he's feeling only what's advantageous to him and no one else.That's only my opinion but I'm very sure that I'm right. He loves nothing, not family, friends or country.
 

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Some things should just never be mocked, this monster isn't one of them. I'm sure he's feeling only what's advantageous to him and no one else.That's only my opinion but I'm very sure that I'm right. He loves nothing, not family, friends or country.

DB - I just flat out don't believe you.

Statements like the one I just quoted - they have no place in a thread about a man's dead grandmother. He's commented many many times about this woman and the great impact she had upon his life, his belief system. This is undoubtedly a huge blow for him - you may have beliefs about this man's suitability to hold office - but that doesn't justify using his loss to try and illustrate your point - your ends don't justify your means.

I doubt there's anyone in the world you could say that comment about - everyone - yes, DB, everyone cares about someone or something. Even you.
 

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How many peoples sons daughters grandmothers babies starved to death today or were blown to a thousand bloody little pieces? The man is a celebrity politician and his life is a cheap soap opera, more opiate for the masses. Do you or did you feel for any of them and did you express condolances for them, or is it only the powerful nearing coronation that you bleed for? You will all live to regret you're confidence in this monster of that I am very sure and you won't have long to wait to see the things true purpose.

I totally agree with d.b.'s comment.
Yet the underlying wish is unattainable.
For the world has split into two: Us and Them.
This is not to say that we are unaware of their plight.
But unfortunately We are not in a position to help Them.

In a world of `Breaking News` being flashed on our screens, We focus on what is of concern to Us.
I do not condone this attitude but reality bites.
If We went back fifty years would the situation be all that different, no.
Then it was still a case of : Us and Them

Right here and now we are facing that which our generation has not faced before - survival.
Because of that Them are not on our minds but Us.

I can only see our future as apocalyptic.
I can only see their future as always having been apocalyptic.

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Kreskin

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This person is more to him than a grandmother. She raised him when his mother passed away. She is basically his mom. He is her son. He is one day away from one of the most remarkable accomplishments of our time. That accomplishment is also her's. She could've written the text book for raising kids. The one she raised is like no one I've seen before.
 

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This person is more to him than a grandmother. She raised him when his mother passed away. She is basically his mom. He is her son. He is one day away from one of the most remarkable accomplishments of our time. That accomplishment is also her's. She could've written the text book for raising kids. The one she raised is like no one I've seen before.

Curiosity: Why are so many children of `colour` raised by their Grandmothers or Grandparents in the United States?
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darkbeaver

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DB

when we cease to have human responses to human experiences - whether it's to an tragedy in Iraq or in America - what's the point of 'railing against the machine' anymore? What are you trying to preserve if not that which defines us not just as humans, but as humane humans?

Selectively applying humane responses is one step closer to relinquishing your hold on your own humanity.

So how much humane consideration do you allow for the tragic life of Adolph Hitler or Joe Stalin or Clifford Olsen? There is a point on the scale of humane consideration for the other beyond which you may not safely go. There are also no rewards in life for mistaking the rabid dog for a puppy. He is not human enough for me to extend humane consideration for him.
365 to 1, I have 364 reasons, at least, to doubt what I'm asked to believe.
My lack of consideration for Mr Obama shocks some but they do not percieve the situation and his role in it in the same way that I do. Evil is completely immune to humane treatment and one who extends the humane to evil is lost to that evil sooner or later.
 

darkbeaver

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DB - I just flat out don't believe you.

Statements like the one I just quoted - they have no place in a thread about a man's dead grandmother. He's commented many many times about this woman and the great impact she had upon his life, his belief system. This is undoubtedly a huge blow for him - you may have beliefs about this man's suitability to hold office - but that doesn't justify using his loss to try and illustrate your point - your ends don't justify your means.

I doubt there's anyone in the world you could say that comment about - everyone - yes, DB, everyone cares about someone or something. Even you.

About 4% care for absolutely nothing and no one, they are entirely incapable of empathy.
 

Walter

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Smart woman; got out when the going was good; didn't want to see Barry screw up and become Jimmy Carter II.
 

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Smart woman; got out when the going was good; didn't want to see Barry screw up and become Jimmy Carter II.

Why?

Jimmy Carter is a great man.....

Here's a picture of the SOB handing a family he just built a house for a bible.


 

Kreskin

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Curiosity: Why are so many children of `colour` raised by their Grandmothers or Grandparents in the United States?
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Obama angered the black community when he brought this up about 6 months ago. Too many missing fathers.