Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

ironsides

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America has always used war to kick start their economy. They have done it so often lately that it has had a reverse effect.


Jack, you are supposed to blow smoke out of your mouth, not the other end.
Only WW-II reversed the economy, and it was Europe that got us involved in a global war, we could have knocked off Japan in less than a year if that was all we had to contend with.

The other wars just drained us more. What is this they?, Canada has been right there with us as were other countries, we were not alone.
 

YukonJack

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America has always used war to kick start their economy. They have done it so often lately that it has had a reverse effect.


Jack, you are supposed to blow smoke out of your mouth, not the other end.

Cliffy, your post is the shining example of anything spewing from the "other end".
 

petros

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He is an alien. Not an illegal alien, but a real alien from the planet Tralfalgadore 678. Below that grey olive skin lies an insect with an appetite for human spleen. He draws his energy from a teleprompter. He's never been to Hawaii. His wife has way too much junk in the trunk. He smokes cigarettes. He has ears like Randy Newman, oh wait that's the short people guy, I was thinking of Alfred E Newman of Mad Magazine. He's way too skinny. He talks in sound bites.

There's more...........I'm thinking..........
 

Cliffy

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Only WW-II reversed the economy, and it was Europe that got us involved in a global war, we could have knocked off Japan in less than a year if that was all we had to contend with.

The other wars just drained us more. What is this they?, Canada has been right there with us as were other countries, we were not alone.
We didn't follow you into Vietnam or Iraq. I credit that to Trudeau and Chretien - two Liberal Prime Ministers (eat your heart out Jack!)
 

petros

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Avoiding illegal wars isn't stabbing people in the back is it?

Didn't Eisenhower stab your nation in the back not once but twice?

Eisenhower must be your hero?
 
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Cliffy

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The two perfect examples of how to stab your allies in the back.

Are you proud, yet, Cliffy???
You don't know Jack! Both those conflicts were immoral and criminal. America raped those countries and murdered millions of innocent civilians. But I know you would be proud to have helped hold them down while Yanks did the raping. You would of felt honoured, wouldn't you Jack?
 

YukonJack

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You don't know Jack! Both those conflicts were immoral and criminal. America raped those countries and murdered millions of innocent civilians. But I know you would be proud to have helped hold them down while Yanks did the raping. You would of felt honoured, wouldn't you Jack?

You talk about MURDER? You who is enthusiastic about killing millions of TOTALLY innocent babies by abortion? Are you and your ilk REAL? You have the nerve of lecturing anyone about killing innocents? About killing those who haven't been given the chance by abortionist creeps to BE citizens?

You and others like you would be proud to hold a woman in straps while a killer "doctor" stabs them, and probably have a great kick out of it.
 

ironsides

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You don't know Jack! Both those conflicts were immoral and criminal. America raped those countries and murdered millions of innocent civilians. But I know you would be proud to have helped hold them down while Yanks did the raping. You would of felt honoured, wouldn't you Jack?

If we were so bad to Vietnam, how come they almost immediately started trade talks with us after the war? Today we are very close. What was immoral was those who ran off and hid behind a neutral countries border and just mouthed off with out participating on either side. They have words for people like that. Muhammad Ali is a hero, he did not run as were many others.

President Obama now has us in a illegal war. We have passed the time limit where we must get out or have Congress approve what he is doing.

YouTube - ‪OBAMA BREAKING THE LAW, QUAKES BIGGER, CHINA RUSSIA WARNS THE U.S. WOW!‬‏
 

YukonJack

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If we were so bad to Vietnam, how come they almost immediately started trade talks with us after the war? Today we are very close. What was immoral was those who ran off and hid behind a neutral countries border and just mouthed off with out participating on either side. They have words for people like that. Muhammad Ali is a hero, he did not run as were many others.

President Obama now has us in a illegal war. We have passed the time limit where we must get out or have Congress approve what he is doing.

YouTube - ‪OBAMA BREAKING THE LAW, QUAKES BIGGER, CHINA RUSSIA WARNS THE U.S. WOW!‬‏

Right on, ironsides!

All nations/countries vanquished by America have benefited. Germany. Japan. Korea (well, at least the sane part of it). Vietnam. Et cetera.

On the other hand, who has benefited from those who are not like America?

Safe prediction: Afganistan will, if it has not already. So does or will Iraq. And Kuwait. And Yemen. And the normal people in Iran can only wish that the Americans were there instead of the ayatollahs.
 

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Facts should not be ignorantly laughed at you know... if that is your intent here. There is more than sufficient evidence from experts that include intelligence support sectors with over 20 years on the job experience... ex-CIA agents... graphic experts... and on. Not to mention that in Africa, even the government honors aka Obama's birthplace = there. So keep on laughing! However, intelligence would demand the presentation of a valid original that can be verified by the document's original sources. Overlays don't count!



''facts''


 

gopher

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Well, genius - you are the one who made the claim Obama has fabricated important evidence. Just where the hell is your proof? If you have any why not present it to Congress under oath so that you may find yourself picking up soap pieces in prison if you tell a lie.
 

GreggM

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You don't know Jack! Both those conflicts were immoral and criminal. America raped those countries and murdered millions of innocent civilians. But I know you would be proud to have helped hold them down while Yanks did the raping. You would of felt honoured, wouldn't you Jack?

Were you in Vietnam? Any other conflict or war? One the ground in heavy combat? With the inhabitants of a country in war or conflict? Or are you just talking off your proverbial hat without anything under it? "War" is not pretty... it is unfortunately historically human! However, there exists more to it than your point of view... when you are with the people who are attempting to find their rights to live their lives free of war (Yes); but also free of being dominated and massacred by their fello opposing countrymen under one sort of regime or another.

My first weeks in Vietnam (around the DMZ) introduced me to the opposition of the South Vietnamese people when we entered a village that had just suffered from a massacre by North Vietnamese Troops and the Viet Cong: They spared no one at no age... and the scene has never been repeated on any movie screen or TV monitor either.

I knew the local people... we attempted to protect those who refused to leave their homes and move South... they did the same for us. We were family! Maybe, in this situation, a Family closer psychological and emotionally than a normal family (biological and genetical) that never has to confront a war like Vietnam. They would disagree with you totally!

There is more to war than politics and commercial considerations. There is more to peace than those like you who just run off at the mouth against those who, in some way, attempt to balance things out in this insane Humanity!

Talk is cheap! And cheap talk is empty! Get off your nationalistic high and come down to facts on the ground! No 'Population' of any Nation is running the Global Events. Thus your "Americans" and "America" is totally off the proverbial wall with your ill informed, and limited in scope, arrogance.

The Americans in this forum demonstrate that fact also. We don't look at Canadian vs. American. We look at 'People' and 'Beings' and we attempt to relate... understand... grow... and unite... with hopes that some day 'Wars' will end. That will only occur, if people like you will ever allow Unity and Understanding to grow eliminating indoctrinated differences. We are here to talk about 'Presidency'... and you? Give us a break! Get your high attacking your own personal way of existing within Humanity. And this comment has nothing to do with 'nationalistic borders' or 'population classifications'. I would tell any American like you the very same thing!

Have a great trip!

Well, genius - you are the one who made the claim Obama has fabricated important evidence. Just where the hell is your proof? If you have any why not present it to Congress under oath so that you may find yourself picking up soap pieces in prison if you tell a lie.

This is your double-talk answer? Pathetic no? Yes! Let's work at your kindergarten level:
A = You have a PC obviously!; and
B = Internet is certainly connected also!; thus,
C = you may know how to use Google or some other search engine; and
D = Use "C" like I do and find out for yourself!
The facts are before the FBI and Federal Courts in ongoing cases!!!
Use your "not so genius" mental capacity to comb the Internet for these facts... if you are capable of doing so without getting lost in your hysterical graphics and arrogance. That way, I won't have to watch a hyena rolling laughing on its side over the facts I would present here in the forum.
Thanks for recognizing my elevated IQ! I sincerely hope you can also appreciate my recognizing your IQ level...
 

Cliffy

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You talk about MURDER? You who is enthusiastic about killing millions of TOTALLY innocent babies by abortion? Are you and your ilk REAL? You have the nerve of lecturing anyone about killing innocents? About killing those who haven't been given the chance by abortionist creeps to BE citizens?

You and others like you would be proud to hold a woman in straps while a killer "doctor" stabs them, and probably have a great kick out of it.
Again you don't know Jack. I do not support abortion but I do not suppose I have a right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do. That is a human right. It is also a straw man argument that not only is fraudulent but off topic, as usual.