Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

[mentalfloss]

Obama to Appear on TV Science Show 'Mythbusters' - Obama on mythbusters....So Watch it !..Don't be bad lippin' Obama ...Or All the ObamaManiacs will Zap you with their Mythbuster Obamanator Death Ray Guns.....Ah uh ..Watch it!..

Bu-bu-but he's a muslim!

Ha. Good on him. It's pretty pathetic to see that the U.S. have gotten so belligerent about science that they have to be taught through Mythbusters, but at least he's making some sort of effort. Also, investing more money in education to lower tuition fees was a good move.

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Um, Bush did the bailouts. The TARP program was set up in the fall of 2008, signed into law by President Bush.

Yea, he was one of those who kept using the 'few bad apples' meme to make the situation seem better than it was. Something akin to 'our corporations are generally considerate and forthcoming but you'll have a few bad apples'. Check out the documentary: 'The Corporation'. A definite eye-opener into the ethical ramifications of current business practice and the former administration's flippant attitude about it.

 

[DaSleeper]

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Um, Bush did the bailouts. The TARP program was set up in the fall of 2008, signed into law by President Bush.

And If I remember correctly....Obama was the first to quit his campaigning and rush to Washington to sign in on it?

 

[Icarus27k]

And If I remember correctly....Obama was the first to quit his campaigning and rush to Washington to sign in on it?

I personally think the TARP was a good idea, but Obama doesn't get credit or blame, if you prefer, for any of it. It was a full 4 months before his Presidency even began. The candidates, Obama and McCain, both went to the White House to meet with then-President Bush about it, but I doubt that means they "sign[ed] onto it" or are responsible for it in any way.

Move along guys. No negative press for Obama on this one.

Here's another thing that Obama has done that has been great. The health care reform law signed into law him closes the so-called "doughnut hole" in Medicare prescription drug coverage. It's been a major issue for issues that has finally been corrected.

More information on this. That...

Medicare Part D coverage gap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...is the Medicare doughnut hole.

 

[mentalfloss]

ack.. nevermind

 

[Avro]

Bu-bu-but he's a muslim!

Smartest thing you've ever said.

If he wins a second term you can bet Sharia law will soon follow.

 

[ironsides]

Who caused all these problems, the Democrats and Republicans of course. Political parties whether two or 100 destroy any prospect of a real peoples democracy. We all are or are becoming uncontrolled welfare states. Sharia law may take root in Canada, but not here Obama does not have that power and the First Amendment won't allow it.




AFP's "Common Sense": Around the World on $69 Million in Welfare Funds

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[Cliffy]

Who caused all these problems, the Democrats and Republicans of course. Political parties whether two or 100 destroy any prospect of a real peoples democracy. We all are or are becoming uncontrolled welfare states. Sharia law may take root in Canada, but not here Obama does not have that power and the First Amendment won't allow it.




AFP's "Common Sense": Around the World on $69 Million in Welfare Funds

How many people are on welfare in California and how many people were involved in these so called frauds? This kind of thinking is akin to saying all Muslims are terrorists. But it is the kind of knee jerk reaction we have come to expect from socially advantaged, especially in the US.

 

[GreenFish66]

So few have so much ..Some give ..Yet there are others, who just want more...more ..more...


Goes with some of the stereotypical "Welfare bums " rational above...

Judging By some of the above statments ...It could be said.."Screw them all, but the top 5%"...

Is this a true statement?..



It takes more than just $Money$ to /Generate/Make/Build /Aquire/Have ....Wealth ...

 

[gopher]

''Blaming the last administration for his current mismanagement is nothing more than an excuse.''

Gotta agree with you there. Obama can end the deficit and recession in only one minute if he only had the b*lls to call in the trillions sheltered overseas by the elites who run this country. Nobody is stopping him from doing so. Nobody.

''"Welfare bums "

Trillionaire elitists (most of whom are Republican) who shelter their assets overseas, along with Republican corporations, are the world's biggest welfare recipients.

 

[gopher]

I should add one more point to the above re the placing of blame - all throughout the 8 years of the inept Bush regime, right wing Republicans made up every excuse they could to place the blame on Clinton for the stupidity and ineptitude of their right wing hero. Clearly it was Bush who created the recession, the two wars, and allowed the terrorist attack on the WTC. Despite that, all we ever heard on this and many other forums was,

BLAME CLINTON!
BLAME CLINTON!
BLAME CLINTON!

By contrast, Obama did not create the mess Bush did. His only problem is in his unwillingness to take the proper corrective steps to solve Bush's mess.

 

[captain morgan]

I should add one more point to the above re the placing of blame - all throughout the 8 years of the inept Bush regime, right wing Republicans made up every excuse they could to place the blame on Clinton for the stupidity and ineptitude of their right wing hero.

You refused to accept the blame being laid at Clinton's feet, yet here you are blaming Bush for everything.

Clearly it was Bush who created the recession, the two wars, and allowed the terrorist attack on the WTC. Despite that, all we ever heard on this and many other forums was,

Wow.. Bush created the recession did he? On top of that, he allowed (practically begged 'em) to bomb the WTC?

You are way far gone gopher if you truly believe this.

By contrast, Obama did not create the mess Bush did. His only problem is in his unwillingness to take the proper corrective steps to solve Bush's mess.

I see.. So the "corrective" steps are to waste trillions on bad policy and mortgage the future of multiple generations of Americans because he is inexperienced and idealistic?

Really?

 

[GreenFish66]

Hear here ..Gopher ..Well said man...

Obama's just warmin up for another 4 successful yrs .I think we're gonna see a more Hardlined/ Bold/Re- Focused President this next 4 years....A 1st World leader a little more Comfortable /Confident in his Presidential Skin ...

Just hope The Prez ..doesn't loose his connection with the people ...I don't mind seein' him on Mythbusters ...Colbert , SNL ..etc ...It just makes tv programs that much better to watch ....

Obama is a good ( turning Great) ..President...The best The U.S.A has had in Years....!


Clinton had a chance to stop Osama Bin Laden ...They Met a few times ..( from what I heard ) ..Yet Clinton never took any action on the growing concern ...Having said that ....It all happened on Bush's Watch ...From what i've heard, Bush also Knew of all the Growing threats ..After all ..He and His father, Bush Senior also had meetings with Osama Bin Laden ...

Got Suddam though ..( probably )

So it's mostly Bush's fault ...

Enough passing The buck on to all the past Presidents...Those times are over for now...Time to look to the future ...Forgive and learn from the mistakes of the past ..(Although we can never forget )...It's time to move forward , carry on into the next 4 years of Obamamania ...Round 2..

..I'll admit ...Bush may have taken the necessary Action /Done the greater good..Under the circumstances ..
He just did it all, the Wrong way ...Did it all ..not thinking about the consequences of his actions..Like he didn't even care..(With a firm push by Cheney and associates.. I'm sure)...

The War and a great part of the Economic CoupCrash .. Was due, in large, to the Bush Administration's Boastful baffles and Alpha Arrogant Attitude...( Which is alright if your doing things right ..However ..Makes you look like a big "D" Or "A "Hole .. when your not.. ....)




Peace or Pieces ...

Peace...

 

[ironsides]

How many people are on welfare in California and how many people were involved in these so called frauds? This kind of thinking is akin to saying all Muslims are terrorists. But it is the kind of knee jerk reaction we have come to expect from socially advantaged, especially in the US.

Are you one of those special people who enjoy seeing and supporting generations on welfare, or one of those rich folks who can afford it and don't mind paying to support a few extra families.


Welfare rolls, which were slow to rise and actually fell in many states early in the recession, now are climbing across the country for the first time since President Bill Clinton signed legislation pledging "to end welfare as we know it" more than a decade ago.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124562449457235503.html


This chart dosen't make it look so good.
Government Spending Chart in United States 2000-2020 - Federal State Local


California
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/us/07califwelfare.html

Hear here ..Gopher ..Well said man...

Obama's just warmin up for another 4 successful yrs .I think we're gonna see a more Hardlined/ Bold/Re- Focused president this next 4 years....A 1st World leader a little more Comfortable /Confident in his Presidential Skin ...

Just hope he doesn't loose his connection with the people ...I don't mind seein' him on Mythbusters ...Colbert , SNL ..and Such ...It just makes those programs that much better....

Obama is a good President...The best The U.S.A has had in Years....!

Misery sure likes company, doesn't it.

 

[GreenFish66]

Yeah,Ironsides.. thanks for inviting us over and makin us all miserable ..Your killin' our Obamania buzz n 'Hype bro .Why ya tryin to bash/ crash/dash /slash and trash your own party man ..Just Quit being so damned miserable would ya....

...Hey ...Ya Gotta any beer..man ....lol..

Come on Ironsides, you can't be tellin' me that you supported Bush throughout his whole/entire Presidency ..?

 

[Goober]

I should add one more point to the above re the placing of blame - all throughout the 8 years of the inept Bush regime, right wing Republicans made up every excuse they could to place the blame on Clinton for the stupidity and ineptitude of their right wing hero. Clearly it was Bush who created the recession, the two wars, and allowed the terrorist attack on the WTC. Despite that, all we ever heard on this and many other forums was,

BLAME CLINTON!
BLAME CLINTON!
BLAME CLINTON!

By contrast, Obama did not create the mess Bush did. His only problem is in his unwillingness to take the proper corrective steps to solve Bush's mess.

The problems with Fannie Mae and mac started with the Clinton administration and continued on thru Bush the Lesser.

The economic surge came from Bush Snr policies.

 

[captain morgan]

Hear here ..Gopher ..Well said man...

Obama's just warmin up for another 4 successful yrs .I think we're gonna see a more Hardlined/ Bold/Re- Focused President this next 4 years....

Another 4 years of what?... Do you even understand the basics of economics?

Just hope The Prez ..doesn't loose his connection with the people ...I don't mind seein' him on Mythbusters ...Colbert , SNL ..etc ...It just makes tv programs that much better to watch ....

Obama is a good ( turning Great) ..President...The best The U.S.A has had in Years....!

Dude-man... Cut out the ganga.. You really have no clue. Do you honestly think that the USA needs to get another 10 trillion in debt?

Clinton had a chance to stop Osama Bin Laden ...They Met a few times ..( from what I heard ) ..Yet Clinton never took any action on the growing concern ...Having said that ....It all happened on Bush's Watch ...From what i've heard, Bush also Knew of all the Growing threats ..After all ..He and His father, Bush Senior also had meetings with Osama Bin Laden ...

Got Suddam though ..( probably )

So it's mostly Bush's fault ...

Are you on glue?.. Perhaps you've been smoking too much BC bud to notice...

Did Bush get to meet with him? Or is your uber-indepth analysis based on the aforementioned retarded superficial analysis that you offered above?

Enough passing The buck on to all the past Presidents...

Unless, ofcourse it involves the name Bush, right?

The War and a great part of the Economic CoupCrash .. Was due, in large, to the Bush Administration's Boastful baffles and Alpha Arrogant Attitude...( Which is alright if your doing things right ..However ..Makes you look like a big "D" Or "A "Hole .. when your not.. ....)

You are such a mypoic hypocrite... Get a grip already.

 

[Goober]

I should add one more point to the above re the placing of blame - all throughout the 8 years of the inept Bush regime, right wing Republicans made up every excuse they could to place the blame on Clinton for the stupidity and ineptitude of their right wing hero. Clearly it was Bush who created the recession, the two wars, and allowed the terrorist attack on the WTC. Despite that, all we ever heard on this and many other forums was,

BLAME CLINTON!
BLAME CLINTON!
BLAME CLINTON!

By contrast, Obama did not create the mess Bush did. His only problem is in his unwillingness to take the proper corrective steps to solve Bush's mess.

Best get an education on your hero sonny boy - Clinton turned down the opportunity to take Osama out.

 

[ironsides]

What was going thru President Obama's head when he said: "we’re hard-wired not to always think clearly when we’re scared. And the country is scared, and they have good reason to be.” Now he has said something most of us can agree on, "Shame on you Mr. President. Wasn’t it fear of an economic meltdown that swept you into power just two years ago? Wasn’t it fear of economic calamity that allowed you to pass the $800 million Stimulus Package without the Congress even reading it?"

Obama Claims Americans not Thinking Clearly EnduringSense

Yeah,Ironsides.. thanks for inviting us over and makin us all miserable ..Your killin' our Obamania buzz n 'Hype bro .Why ya tryin to bash/ crash/dash /slash and trash your own party man ..Just Quit being so damned miserable would ya....

...Hey ...Ya Gotta any beer..man ....lol..

Come on Ironsides, you can't be tellin' me that you supported Bush throughout his whole/entire Presidency ..?

I'm Ok now, voted in early election yesterday. :lol:

 

[Icarus27k]

"Shame on you Mr. President. Wasn’t it fear of an economic meltdown that swept you into power just two years ago? Wasn’t it fear of economic calamity that allowed you to pass the $800 million Stimulus Package without the Congress even reading it?"

Why no, Steve Markowitz, it wasn't any fear of an economic meltdown that got Obama elected. Obama would've handedly won even without an economic downturn. You see, McCain-Palin '08 was a comically weak Presidential ticket, and the Republicans at the time still had one of the worst Presidents in the history of the US (George W. Bush) in power. That swept Obama into power more than any recession.

Of course, Steve Markowitz, you have offered no evidence that Congress didn't read the economic stimulus package. Instead you just stated it, apparently because you expect people who lack healthy skepticism to just believe it. And yes, I'll give you a point, because passage of the stimulus was partially based upon fear. Justifiable fear at that. Americans were rightly told that unless they wanted to see a significantly longer recession, they better see the stimulus package passed.

What ever point you're trying to make has been cut down pretty significantly by some fact checking.

 

[ironsides]

May Obama's reign end in 2012. Clinton is retired, let him enjoy it. If America is to recover it will be because they elected Allan West for President in 2012.

Allen West Speaking Before The Vets For West Rally In Delray Beach FL
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