Obama urges future Palestinian state be based on '67 borders
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Sure thing, Bear. More childish accusations and recriminations. But you have yet to prove your point, again. I'm still waiting for proof that democracy and integration have created or threaten to create genocide.
I know it's a sure thing, thanx for admitting it too. Gaza is a 'democracy', it's 'democratic' gov't has a written policy of genocide.
There's two threads in my profile, I started years ago, just to address your false childish accusations and recriminations, hypocrite.
So you are saying all Syrians and Jordanians and, well, Arabs in general are prone to genocide?
You usually don't say too much that's completely stupid but you really made yourself into a moron with this one.
I can't speak for him, but I would agree. Yes, the Syrians and Jordians in particular, have been fairly peaceful since the inception of the their superimposed boarders, but come on.
Oh yeah, The Green Line....boooya!
Are you saying that Muslims are peaceful and no threat to anyone?
Do you sit on the crapper with your laptop, staring into a mirror? You're the only one between the two of us, that still doesn't grasp, the Preach can only be guilty, if you acknowledge Muslims are prone to violence.
If you sent the Palistinians to America and the Mexicans to Israel this would be a great improvement in relations
Those neighbors once they had their butts kicked for the 100th time are only to happy to leave Israel alone. You don't see Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon or even Syria trying to do anything other than supply the Palestinians with minimal stuff. Those neighbors of course endorse the idea of one state as long as it is not within their borders. (Remember the sign Irish need not apply, well in this case Palestinians need not apply, they don't want them as their neighbor)
Better yet, send them to Mexico, give them a route to citizenship in the U.S., and while in Mexico they could end their drug wars there.
This is even more ridiculous than most of your posts.
Read a little of your own history.
Just for starters, it was illegal for blacks to enlist in the combat arms of the CSA until 1865......at the very end, considering Lee surrendered on April 9 of that year.
So Gopher, you must not believe what the Islamists are saying, and I might add, they're quiet open about it. They want to "kill/murder/maime ALL Jews. They state it over and over and over again. They educate their children that "...Jews are worse than vermin..." Isreal did give up land and the Palistinians destroyed all the infrastructure that was left behind rather than take advantage of these facilities for their own use. How can you honestly believe that there can be peace "after integration?" The Islamists don't think the way you or I do - we need to SERIOUSLY take them at their word.
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The Islamists don't think the way you or I do, they do however think the way gopher does.
What are you talking about, right after the Civil War if the average black man was caught with a weapon he most likely was beaten or hung in the south. You got it eight, Palestinians are not as well armed as Israel and will never be. The Hamas charter specifically mandates the murder of Jews in compliance with what it believes is Divine will. Violence and terror, which Hamas refers to as “resistance”, are considered legitimate tools to be used for this purpose.
Hamas has worked hard to promote this ideology and to train the current and future generations toward this end, using a Mickey Mouse-like character to teach the precepts to PA Arab children and other TV and radio programs to reach the adults."
"Muslim Brothers during the 1948 War, and to the Jihad operations of the Muslim Brothers in 1968 and thereafter. But even if the links have become distant from each other, and even if the obstacles erected by those who revolve in the Zionist orbit, aiming at obstructing the road before the Jihad fighters, have rendered the pursuance of Jihad impossible; nevertheless, the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim)."
This philosophy and attitude will never lead to a peaceful settlement, Hamas must be destroyed or at least shown the right road before there will be a lasting peace.
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
How many attempts were made to bring peace and order through various UN resolutions, lots, Hamas was never named in any of them, the clear aggressor was Israel each and every time, and they still are. If you want peace let Hamas take their petitions to the UN and let the complaints run the full course.
When the US wanted Saddam removed because he was a 'bad neighbor' the UN (sort of) ruled on it, why wash one hand and not the other?
http://video.foxnews.com/v/950932357001/beck-obamas-betrayal-of-israel/?playlist_id=87485
Yo Glen, the Golan Heights are not taller than satellites or drones, lol.
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Who's fault was it that Hamas was never included in older UN peace talks? As for UN peace talks the UN has proven that they will not stand up and enforce and peace settlements they broker. Biggest example was the October War 1973. Israel was complying with the treaty. Then we are where we are today. "The Arab World, which had been humiliated by the lopsided rout of the Egyptian-Syrian-Jordanian alliance in the Six-Day War, felt psychologically vindicated by early successes in the conflict. In Israel, despite impressive operational and tactical achievements on the battlefield, the war effectively ended its sense of invincibility and complacency. The war also challenged many American assumptions; the United States initiated new efforts at mediation and peacemaking. These changes paved the way for the subsequent peace process. The Camp David Accords that followed led to the return of the Sinai to Egypt and normalized relations—the first peaceful recognition of Israel by an Arab country." Israel has peace now, just let them handle the Palestinians in their own way, there will not be genocide as some predict that is not in the Israeli plan.
By the way, the Golan Heights must be occupied as they are now by either side for their strategic value to be utilized. Satellites will give advanced warning of a attack but in today's world that in not fast enough when you are referring to 50 miles or so. Then again does Israel have immediate use of these satellites?
Palestinians kill suspected spy for Israel in West Bank
Masked Palestinians shot dead a West Bank man suspected of spying for Israel on Saturday, the second such killing in the occupied territory this month, security sources said Saturday
Masked Palestinians shot dead a West Bank man suspected of spying for Israel on Saturday, the second such killing in the occupied territory this month, security sources said Saturday
This could take up several pages and most of it would be a repeat from other threads over. Being declared a terrorist organization was a step in silencing them, one of many through a joint effort of the US and Israel. This is not any different than the US telling Egyptians the one to put in charge was the one right below their corrupt leader. Why not just zip their lips as Gaza is not part of their country?
This more interesting as it is worth reviewing, in 1967 having the high ground was important as ground forces were in use then, in this day and age of being able to shoot over the horizon and be accurate or shoot from the air via drones or heavy bombers.
What is the current status of the economic aspect of that area? It would appear to be 600Sq mi of what would be called productive agricultural land for the most part. If population safety was a prime concern they why are they also making a economic gain off that same land with (I assume) 0% of the profits going to Syria as it is their land. Being paid rent would show them (and the world) that security was #1 rather than just stealing some productive land for their own material gain.
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