Obama Health care Reform

ironsides

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Neal Boortz, is a true Libertarian. Not a democrat or a Republican. But you do have a way with words. I think this is a perfect description of Princess Nancy "The Aging Hollow-eyed Hippy from Haight-Asbury"


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ironsides

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He is a talk radio host, ironsides. Or rather he belongs to hate radio, and is an extreme right wing yahoo, another Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbaugh (though I assume much smaller audience than Limbaugh).

I wouldn’t pay too much attention to what he says, except perhaps to find out what the far right Republican base is thinking.

He is talk radio, but so far has not been added to the likes of Michael Savage or that wimp Rush. He is a Libertarian.
 

ironsides

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Was all this BS really worth this?? 2% to have public option?
WASHINGTON – What's all the fuss about? After all the noise over Democrats' push for a government insurance plan to compete with private carriers, coverage numbers are finally in: Two percent.
That's the estimated share of Americans younger than 65 who'd sign up for the public option plan under the health care bill that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is steering toward House approval.
"The public option is a significant issue, but its place in the debate is completely out of proportion to its actual importance to consumers," said Drew Altman, president of the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation. "It has sucked all the oxygen out of the room and diverted attention from bread-and-butter consumer issues, such as affordable coverage and comprehensive benefits."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_public_plan


 

ironsides

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Now the Christian Scientists want prayer to be part of the new health plan. Hey you liberals out there, how do you put on the breaks?

Washington -- As the health care battle moved forward last week, Phil Davis, a senior Christian Science church official, hurriedly delivered bundles of letters to Senate offices promoting a little-noticed proposal in the legislation requiring insurers to consider covering the church's prayer treatments just as they do other medical expenses.
 

Kreskin

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They are in the back pockets of the Republicans. Probably a wing of it. Doesn't surprise me that they would ask for faith-based medical insurance.
 

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When you can no longer change or shape public opinion,follow it.
Mass marketing 101.
 

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John Stossel? A far right ultra reich wing hater who started out in New York as a consumer reporter but who laughed as those who suffered at the hands of abusive corporate types who sell garbage disguised as quality products. He got slapped in the face by a pro wrestler for insulting that sport. He should have gotten his head slapped just a bit harder.
 

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Anyway, my words were prophetic when I said that Stoessel should get a job with FOX. Yesterday I read, Stoessel is now working for WorldNetDaily, the extreme right wing website. Whether that is in addition to ABC or in place of ABC, I don’t know.
 

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Obama praises Congress for passing health care bill


U.S. President Barack Obama commended what he called a "courageous" vote for members of Congress who passed a historic health care reform bill late Saturday, legislation that, if enacted, will extend coverage to tens of millions Americans who are currently uninsured.

"I know this was a courageous vote for many members of Congress and I am grateful to them and the rest of their colleagues," Obama said in a news conference Sunday.

He said if the law passes, the U.S. will be able to protect Americans from "abuses" by insurance companies who deny or revoke coverage for people who have preexisting conditions, or reach a lifetime maximum.

He said it now falls on the U.S. senate to "take the baton and bring this effort to the finish line on behalf of the American people."

The House bill is projected to expand coverage to 36 million people who don't have insurance. The United States is the only developed nation that does not have a comprehensive national health care plan.

The bill passed Saturday with a 220-215 vote tally and will now head to the Senate for what will no doubt be more heated debate.

But in the Senate, more than a simple majority is needed for passage, and it will be a tough fight.

Several centrist Democrats still have reservations, particularly about establishing a government-sponsored insurance program, or public option, to compete with private insurers.

"The House bill is dead on arrival in the Senate," Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said Sunday. "It was a bill written by liberals for liberals."
CTV News | Obama praises Congress for passing health care bill

Can this be pulled off and can it be passed ?
 

SirJosephPorter

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Obama praises Congress for passing health care bill


CTV News | Obama praises Congress for passing health care bill

Can this be pulled off and can it be passed ?


It is possible, but it won’t be easy. Democrats cannot afford to lose even a single Democrat in the senate. So it depends upon whether they can come up with a bill acceptable to all the democratic Senators. Even if they do manage to pass a bill, the final bill will look markedly different from the House bill.

But at least they have a possibility to pass a bill here. Such an opportunity may not occur again this century. They have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, control of the House, and presidency. Now is the time to pass something.

However, I do know one thing. If Democrats fail to pass a bill, very likely they lose control of House and Senate in 2010.
 

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''courageous''

Interesting term, especially in view of the fact that the entire Dem party approved of it in their platform of August, 2008. This was supposed to be their top priority but, somehow, they put in the back burner. That is, until now.
 

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''Study: Bush Tax Cuts Cost More Than Twice As Much As Dems' Health-Care Bill


Study: Bush Tax Cuts Cost More Than Twice As Much As Dems' Health-Care Bill | Crooks and Liars


''many of the lawmakers who argue that the health care reform legislation is “too costly” are the same lawmakers who supported the Bush tax cuts.
Their own voting record demonstrates that health care reform is not a matter of costs, but a matter of priorities.
It’s difficult to see how the Bush tax cuts could provide us with two and a half times the benefits of health care reform. In 2010, when all the Bush tax cuts are finally phased in, a staggering 52.5 percent of the benefits will go to the richest 5 percent of taxpayers.
President Bush and his supporters argued that these high-income tax cuts would benefit everybody because they would unleash investment that would spark widespread economic prosperity. ''




Ironically, Bush's tax cuts schemes were called:


Economic Growth and Tax Reform Reconciliation Act of 2001

Job Creation and Worker Assistance Act of 2002

Jobs and Growth Tax Relief and Reconciliation Act of 2003




Job growth and creation??? WHAT A FRIGGIN JOKE!!!
 

ironsides

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If enough reasons to oppose government takeover of the U.S. health care system didn’t already exist, consider this:
A major component that receives too little discussion in the national health care debate is Washington’s plan to dramatically expand Medicaid.
Legislation pending in Washington funds expanded health care benefits by shifting much of the cost to state taxpayers like you and me. Estimates suggest the current proposals will cost Florida taxpayers over $1 billion.
Their plan will swell Medicaid enrollment and mandate state taxpayers pick up the excess tab, adding a greater tax burden to working families and businesses that will surely stifle economic recovery and job growth.
Bigger government and larger entitlement programs are not the solution and will not lead us to economic recovery. This unfunded mandate is a budget wrecker for Floridians and one we should not be forced to endure. Workers hard work should support their families, not bigger government.