Now confirmed that Trump is putting innocent children in cages

JLM

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While you are reviewing that why don't you also look into corrupt band councils that withhold funds from their own people. You might also review how many times funds have been provided for services of various kinds and were never used for those purposes. Or, when services were installed no one in the community bothered to make sure they were kept in good order.

Didn't THAT turn out to be the over riding problem at Attawapiskat?
 

Colpy

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Here's some facts for you:


President Obama was allowing children to be kept in detention with their parents.


The government was sued over that policy, and the court found that you could not do that. Full stop.


Which leaves only two options:



Not charge those that broke the law crossing the border illegally and release them and their children.


Separate the kids from their parents.


On a second point, the congressional Republicans proposed a discussion of the problem with the aim of fixing it, and the Democrats shut them down. They don't give a damn about the kids, just the political points.
 

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Yes, just look at how Canada treats its aboriginals why don't we. Millions given to numerous inquiries. Millions given to Aboriginal adoptees. Millions given to residential school Aboriginals. Millions given to reserves that have no hope of ever being able to support themselves with viable employment. I could go on but unless you are completely dense - you should get my point.

I actually agree with you, only without the hate.

Here's some facts for you:


President Obama was allowing children to be kept in detention with their parents.


The government was sued over that policy, and the court found that you could not do that. Full stop.


Which leaves only two options:



Not charge those that broke the law crossing the border illegally and release them and their children.


Separate the kids from their parents.


On a second point, the congressional Republicans proposed a discussion of the problem with the aim of fixing it, and the Democrats shut them down. They don't give a damn about the kids, just the political points.
So, you decided to go full-on liar on this one?

I'm genuinely sorry to hear that.
 

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Jinentonix

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Are ya sure? Separating kids from families was Harper-era policy in Canada, yet 2.5 years into Trudeau's mandate it's still going on.

By all means, do elaborate as to why Trump doing it is worse than Trudeau doing it. If you need to take time to limber up for the mental gymnastics by reading some pseudo-intellectual FB memes, by all means. I'd really like to hear the reason.
 

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Didn't THAT turn out to be the over riding problem at Attawapiskat?

Chief and her financial advisor didn't want to spend anything from the $83 Million investment portfolio, so staged a KFC sponsored hunger strike to deflect away from the corruption of her band council.
 

Cliffy

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Are ya sure? Separating kids from families was Harper-era policy in Canada, yet 2.5 years into Trudeau's mandate it's still going on.

By all means, do elaborate as to why Trump doing it is worse than Trudeau doing it. If you need to take time to limber up for the mental gymnastics by reading some pseudo-intellectual FB memes, by all means. I'd really like to hear the reason.
I'm not going to argue with you because I have no use for Trudeau. He is just a puppet for the ruling elite, the same as Trump. But this is a thread about Trump and you are using straw man tactics to divert attention from that slime bucket.
 

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Hi Twin Moose

I am not going to continue arguing my point with you.

Sorry.
It's like throwing a ball against a wall

Why I have dropped out of the climate change / illegal immigrant "debate"

It's just pointless repetition
 

Jinentonix

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I'm not going to argue with you because I have no use for Trudeau. He is just a puppet for the ruling elite, the same as Trump. But this is a thread about Trump and you are using straw man tactics to divert attention from that slime bucket.
No, this is a thread about the faux outrage over Trump doing what several other Western nations were already doing and still are doing.

This isn't a Trump problem. This isn't a Republican or Democrat or Liberal or Conservative problem either. Unfortunately it's a problem that currently only has one focus because the ruling elite are the ones smearing Trump and you're only too happy to lap it up like a good little Kool-aid slurper. You are being manipulated by the established political elite and their media lapdogs. They resent the fact that an outsider to their privileged existence is the leader of a "free" nation. It opens up the door for other outsiders to potentially enjoy the rarefied air only the privileged think they should be allowed to breathe. So, they put all the focus of hate on Trump to discourage anyone else from trying it in a so-called "democratic" nation. They're merely protecting their own self-interests and idiots like you are only too happy to help them. All while you whine about evils of power and wealth. Man, they got you so buffaloed you don't whether to shit or wind your watch.
 

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Dems. won by weaponizing kids Trump just signed an order to not separate families I think this is the order.

Homeland Security drafts plan to end family separation

WASHINGTON (AP) — Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen is drafting an executive action for President Donald Trump that would direct DHS to keep families apprehended at the border together during detention.
That's according to two people familiar with her thinking who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the effort before its official announcement.
It's unclear whether the president is supportive of the measure.
But Nielsen is on her way to the White House to discuss the issue with the president's team, according to one of the people.
The person says the secretary believes there is little certainty that Congress will act to fix the separation issue and is trying to find a solution. The order would ask the Department of Defense to help house the detained families.
 

Hoid

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But Trump has ordered that the illegal immigration thing be fixed

What more can a president do ?