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Right, because the Koran says so, it must be true. That novel is rotting your brain.

The Quran is light of guidance and insight

The Quran does not destroy the brain; on the contrary, the Quran is a light of guidance and insight and wisdom.

But the thing that corrupts the brain is the alcohol consumption: this alcohol will permeate the body tissues more than water can do; the alcohol dissolves the fatty material and will permeate the fatty tissues including the nervous system and the brain itself.

Moreover, the alcohol is an antiseptic: it kills the germ cells and in concentrated alcohol solution it fixes the living cell: i.e. kills the living cell; therefore the ingestion of alcohol eventhough in little amounts --> will certainly lead to dangerous effect on the body cells particularly the cells of the brain and especially the frontal lobe cortex

and will lead to the development of early dementia: loss of the recent memory and the atrophy of the cortical cells of the brain, in addition to the tremor ...etc. This is called Korsacoff psychosis.

To prove my words right; the drunken will have the smell of the alcoho emitting from all over his body: from the skin, from the sweat, from the breath and in the urine.

In addition, Satan will take him right and left and make him fall in troubles and problems.

As in the Quran 2: 275

الَّذِينَ يَأْكُلُونَ الرِّبَا لاَ يَقُومُونَ إِلاَّ كَمَا يَقُومُ الَّذِي يَتَخَبَّطُهُ الشَّيْطَانُ مِنَ الْمَسِّ

The explanation:
(Those who take usury [in the life of the World] will not stand up [for Judgment in the afterlife]
but as [a drunken man] stands up, whom the devil lets stagger because of the drunkenness)

The Drinking of Wine
 
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God gave us alcohol and many animals and insects also imbibe, all within reason and in season, of course. Beer is actually the preferred beverage of the gods. I intend to start a batch as soon as my feet touch my allotted acreage in the celestial brewery, completely comfortable in the sure knowledge of the brew masters approval. Only Muslims are are forbidden to partake because as everyone knows they simply cannot handle liquor.
 

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I say this because the atheists, with their insisting, try to claim God is cruel and merciless; glory be to God Most Gracious and Most Kind.

You got it wrong, Atheists don't claim that God is cruel and merciless. Atheists claim that God doesn't exist, that she is a figment of your imagination. Saying that God is cruel and merciless would be as absurd as claiming that Easter Bunny is cruel and merciless.
 

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The Quran is light of guidance and insight

The Quran does not destroy the brain; on the contrary, the Quran is a light of guidance and insight and wisdom.

I agree, Koran doesn't destroy brain cells, it only corrupts them, enabling some Muslims to become terrorists. Incidentally, so also do things like ganja, hashish and several other drugs which are consumed in Islamic countries, even though alcohol is officially forbidden.
 

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Standard disclaimer and limited warranty isn't it? If I haven't kept up my insurance payments I can hardly expect a positive settlement can I? I'm infrequently bothered by the conventional meanings of the term believer because my special relationship with god has afforded me great latitude in the material I am permitted to entertain. It is impossible not to believe while you live and if you think you don't believe, you are dead already. A natural unconscious believer is rarely troubled by doubts traded in the mundane god markets of the world. The natural believer in god enjoys an immunity to all doubts without any of the usual refined definitions of the undefinable omnipotent power of the one offered by scoundrels and charlatans.
Any good man is by definition a believer and naturally follows the laws, this is exactly what determines righteousness in gods eyes and he has caused that to be written many times. But we take the book and the scratched runes as holy instead of the direct knowledge. We will never gain admission unless we do the good works, memorization of the tracts and toting the tome under ones arm won't fool god, she's quicker than that I bet.

By the word "believer" I mean: the one believing in God alone without associate; and that God is the Creator: One without son or parents or wife or equal,
and who believe in all the apostles of God (including Moses, Jesus and Mohammed)
and believe in all the revealed books: the Torah, the Gospel and the Quran;
and who believes in the next afterlife and the reward in Paradise and the punishment in Hell.

Moreover, the believer should not say about God: she or her ...etc.

Such belief should be confirmed by the righteous work in order to attain this goal of prospering in Paradise and the good pleasure of God.

I have made search and found 49 sites where the expression الذين آمنوا وعملوا الصالحات is mentioned which means: (those who believe and work righteous work)

And the expression آمَنَ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا which means: (he who believes and works righteous work) it is repeated 6 times.

In addition to a large number of ayat with the same implication but different words.

As in the Quran 18: 110

قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاء رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا

The explanation:
(Say: "I am only a human being like yourselves; [but] I am inspired that your God is only One God.

Then let him, who hopes to meet his Lord, work righteous works, and associate none in worshipping his Lord.")

 
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By the word "believer" I mean: the one believing in God alone without associate; and that God is the Creator: One without son or parents or wife or equal,
That's me plain and simple. God is by definition everything, he/she/it the one the way the infinite the all. Your insistence on a male god is irrational and unreasonable and unholy. Let me demonstrate, god is a sparrow a worm a rock and cancer, omnipotent and omniscient. What possible interest or need could god have in trousers? God inhabits all forms equally.
 

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I agree, Koran doesn't destroy brain cells, it only corrupts them, enabling some Muslims to become terrorists. Incidentally, so also do things like ganja, hashish and several other drugs which are consumed in Islamic countries, even though alcohol is officially forbidden.

Ganja and hashish are cannabis, there is not a shread of evidence to support your spurious claims about that drug inspiring and firing terrorists but it is certainly well known that the murdering US air force uses speed to improve their blood lust. Who can afford more highly trained fanatical terrorists the empire or the tiny countries it rapes and destroys?
 

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God gave us alcohol and many animals and insects also imbibe, all within reason and in season, of course. Beer is actually the preferred beverage of the gods. I intend to start a batch as soon as my feet touch my allotted acreage in the celestial brewery, completely comfortable in the sure knowledge of the brew masters approval. Only Muslims are are forbidden to partake because as everyone knows they simply cannot handle liquor.


Of course God created the alcohol; it has some advantages to man like in medicine to sterilize wounds and in laboratory to fix the tissue cells ..etc; but the harm of alcohol abounds more than its advantage; therefore it is forbidden in the religion of God and in all His books and by all His apostles.

This is in the Quran 2: 219

يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَآ أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا

The explanation:
(They ask you [Mohammed] about wine and gambling. Say: "In both of them is great sin and [some] benefits to people, but the sin of the two is greater than the benefit.")

About the prohibition of the wine in the Torah see here:
The Drinking of Wine
 

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Of course God created the alcohol; it has some advantages to man like in medicine to sterilize wounds and in laboratory to fix the tissue cells ..etc; but the harm of alcohol abounds more than its advantage; therefore it is forbidden in the religion of God and in all His books and by all His apostles. so can it be a sin to drink.?
.Even the best Man To walk after Adam in gods favor "Noah".Got drunk on wine how so is it a sin.?
This is foolishness you talk ,Jesus before he took up his ministry was asked by Mary to preform a miracle of water to wine ,again where is the prohibition at a marriage
 

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YouTube - This Should Keep Us All Thinking


Err when it comes to things about God Man will never understand ,When it comes to things about man God Knows All


God Almighty Himself did this, but you and that student ascribe it to Jesus.

I had a similar story of a teacher: atheist: a communist and the sparrow; in Iraq about the year 1959:

The atheist and the sparrow

A teacher, an atheist, was trying to spread his poison to the school students (in the class): it was a school not in the university.

A sparrow entered the classroom from a window there; the teacher (the atheist) captured the sparrow in his hand, then turned to the students and said:

"If God exists, then let Him save this sparrow from me; because I am going to squeeze its neck and strangulate it gradually."

Immediately a man with a pistol entered the classroom before the eyes of the students and shot the teacher dead: the sparrow FIRRRRrrrr : it flied safe and got out of the window; so within few seconds the teacher dropped dead, the sparrow escaped and that man went away.

The man who told me this true story was a taxi driver; and he said: I never curtailed the daily prayers since then.

I told this story to many men; some said: this might be a man with revenge: i.e. he demanded some revenge from this teacher for some honor crime or something like that: I thought once such an atheist might have some bad conduct;

another one said: this is an angel sent by God to answer the challenge.

The explanation of this story:
This was an angel sent by God Almighty to answer the challenge and demonstrate that before the students; this angel took the shape of a man and appeared before the students: the angels can do that and appear before people according to God's command.
The pistol and bullet is a symbol and he in fact seized the nasty soul of this infidel.

This is according to the might of God and has not any relation to Jesus or any other prophet or imam.

<http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Angels_>
 
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Of course God created the alcohol; it has some advantages to man like in medicine to sterilize wounds and in laboratory to fix the tissue cells ..etc; but the harm of alcohol abounds more than its advantage; therefore it is forbidden in the religion of God and in all His books and by all His apostles.

This is in the Quran 2: 219

يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَآ أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا

The explanation:
(They ask you [Mohammed] about wine and gambling. Say: "In both of them is great sin and [some] benefits to people, but the sin of the two is greater than the benefit.")

About the prohibition of the wine in the Torah see here:
The Drinking of Wine

Certainly there are many ways to destroy brain cells and body tissues from the pourable to the ponderable. The dangers of booze to life is just one destructive pitfall . I think gods recommendations of moderation in all things except love covers booze as well. A planet without beer might as well be without life. It is a gift that allows transdimensional awareness absolutely necessary in the study of alternative constructions. No one can estimate the scientific breakthroughs nor the art masterpieces directly emanated from the beer pot. It is well that we have had not less than historically high and enthusiastic experimentors and visionaries wholely dedicated to the betterment of mankind through the enlightened investigations of beer. We have no less than a devinely sanctioned symbiotic relationship with the substance. The sin, in my estimation, is the devilish rejection of gods gift of beer. The theocrats do not want us to be happy, if we are happy, we get along, if we get along, they are out of work.
 

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God is Most Gracious and Most Merciful




How can any intelligent man think God is not Merciful; don't he see that God's mercy and kindness includes His enemy even (temporarily in this Worldly life).

God's mercy and grace in this World includes both the believer and the disbelieve; but in the afterlife it will be exclusive for believers only.

In this World, both the believer and the disbeliever have health, children, houses, cars and happiness: this is generally speaking.

Doesn't the disbeliever (the atheist and the idolater) see that he has eyes, ears and perception of happiness and pleasure; but in fact the disbeliever is ungrateful and denies the bounties bestowed on him by his Lord Who created him and provided him with his daily provision and a large number uncountable bounties and blessings.

(In the name of God, Most Gracious Most Merciful)
This, between brackets, is the explanation of the first aya of every soora (or chapter) of the 114 sooras of the Quran excepting the soora no. 9

بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ


Its interpretation: I start the recitation in the name of God Who is Most Gracious so that He bestows His mercy to both the believer and the disbeliever in this World, and Who is Most Merciful exclusively to believers in the next afterlife.

In other words: His mercy and grace involves both believers and disbelievers in this World, but it does not involve disbelievers in the next afterlife, and will be confined only to believers in the next afterlife.



There's a few holes here- I think you want to take a step back and take a look at the whole situation, before continuing your verbal deluge of stuff you have no way of reinforcing. For one thing I'm not sure if God is all that interested in the individual but rather is more concerned with trends. I can buy that he set the world up to run properly, but if you do something stupid like wander drunk out into traffic, He is not going to swoop down and rescue you. On the other hand a "Merciful" God isn't going to discriminate against you for not being a believer. That is the sort of fickle behaviour more characteristic to people. I don't know if people are feeding you all this bullsh*t or whether you just go out of your way to find it, but it either way it's non productive. Instead of spending all your time yapping, go out and help some old ladies across the street- that way you'd at least be useful.
 
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A merciful god wouldn't massacre a large number of people, innocent ones included, just because they did something that wasn't good. Especially since the god built them that way to begin with. A merciful god would forgive them and teach them the right thing. A merciful god would lead by example.
 

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Certainly there are many ways to destroy brain cells and body tissues from the pourable to the ponderable. The dangers of booze to life is just one destructive pitfall . I think gods recommendations of moderation in all things except love covers booze as well. A planet without beer might as well be without life. It is a gift that allows transdimensional awareness absolutely necessary in the study of alternative constructions. No one can estimate the scientific breakthroughs nor the art masterpieces directly emanated from the beer pot. It is well that we have had not less than historically high and enthusiastic experimentors and visionaries wholely dedicated to the betterment of mankind through the enlightened investigations of beer. We have no less than a devinely sanctioned symbiotic relationship with the substance. The sin, in my estimation, is the devilish rejection of gods gift of beer. The theocrats do not want us to be happy, if we are happy, we get along, if we get along, they are out of work.

If God said the beer is allowed in moderate quantity, who would guaranty people will be moderate? And what is this moderation limits?

Moreover, even the little amount of alcohol will have its influence and effect on the body tissues including the liver and the brain cells. Such effect will accumulate gradually leading to dangerous outcome of liver cirrhosis and brain cortex cells atrophy, specially of the frontal lobe leading to the early dementia: loss of recent memory and delerium and tremor ..etc.

In addition, the danger of the alcohol is evident to any just man: most of the crimes and quarrels issue from the drunkenness; because the drunken will lose at least some of his sound judgment and mind and conciousness, and his behavior will not be like the conscious man, and when the effect of the drunkenness disappear, he will mostly regret and feel sorry.

As in the Quran 5: 91

إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُوقِعَ بَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةَ وَالْبَغْضَاء فِي الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ وَيَصُدَّكُمْ عَن ذِكْرِ اللّهِ وَعَنِ الصَّلاَةِ فَهَلْ أَنتُم مُّنتَهُونَ

The explanation:
( Satan intends only to
>> excite enmity and hatred between you by means of wine and gambling,
>> and to turn you away from remembrance of God and from prayer.

Will you then have done?)


Therefore, it can't be that any prophet or apostle came and made the alcohol drinks lawful. Even just people who are not prophets and some of them are not religious and they stood firm against the alcohol.


Evidently, it is a big problem and its serious consequences are so obvious.
 
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If God said the beer is allowed in moderate quantity, who would guaranty people will be moderate? And what is this moderation limits?

Moreover, even the little amount of alcohol will have its influence and effect on the body tissues including the liver and the brain cells.

In addition, the danger of the alcohol is evident to any just man: most of the crimes and quarrels issue from the drunkenness; because the drunken will lose at least some of his sound judgment and mind and conciousness, and his behavior will not be like the conscious man, and when the effect of the drunkenness disappear, he will mostly regret and feel sorry.

Therefore, it can't be that any prophet or apostle came and made the alcohol drinks lawful. Even just people who are not prophets and some of them are not religious and they stood firm against the alcohol.

Evidently, it is a big problem and its serious consequences are so obvious.

It’s a big problem in your beloved Islamic countries, eanassir. We know a doctor from India. He worked in Saudi Arabia for a few years before coming to Canada. He was telling me that in many Saudi hospitals there are wards to treat alcoholics. If Islam forbids alcohol, where do the alcoholics come from?

Why, they come from abstaining from alcohol. If you are a lifelong abstainer and then decide to drink because it is forbidden (the forbidden fruit is always sweeter, ask Adam and Eve), they don’t know when to quit. Also, they don’t have any tolerance for alcohol and easily get hooked on alcohol, become alcoholics.

Banning alcohol is like (and about as effective as) banning prostitution or banning homosexuality. Any ban will work on surface only. Alcoholism is rampant in many Islamic countries, if my doctor friend is to be believed. So of course, is prostitution and homosexuality.
 

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It’s a big problem in your beloved Islamic countries, eanassir. We know a doctor from India. He worked in Saudi Arabia for a few years before coming to Canada. He was telling me that in many Saudi hospitals there are wards to treat alcoholics. If Islam forbids alcohol, where do the alcoholics come from?

Why, they come from abstaining from alcohol. If you are a lifelong abstainer and then decide to drink because it is forbidden (the forbidden fruit is always sweeter, ask Adam and Eve), they don’t know when to quit. Also, they don’t have any tolerance for alcohol and easily get hooked on alcohol, become alcoholics.

Banning alcohol is like (and about as effective as) banning prostitution or banning homosexuality. Any ban will work on surface only. Alcoholism is rampant in many Islamic countries, if my doctor friend is to be believed. So of course, is prostitution and homosexuality.

These countries are Muslim countries, not Islamic countries.
Muslims now may be like Jews and Christians: only by name not in reality.

E.g. Christians indicate they are related to the Christ, while they are obviously very far from the teachings of Jesus Christ, as are Jews from Moses teachings and Muslims from Mohammed's teachings.