Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

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You might be onto something there…
Somebody needs to "help" Palestine "sustainably" develope their massive gas fields. The son of the man who setup Petro Canada would never benefit from bombing the shit out of countries like Libya or Syria.


Why not give Palestine a crack?
 
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Somebody needs to "help" Palestine "sustainably" develope their massive gas fields. The son of the man who setup Petro Canada would never benefit from bombing the shit out of countries like Libya or Syria.


Why not give Palestine a crack?
Pipe?
 

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A motion from the NDP/Liberals initially calling on Canada to recognize the "State of Palestine" passed amid widespread acrimony on Monday, after the Liberal/NDP’s drastically altered its wording to see the government simply work towards that aim as part of a two-state solution….so waffling to try & please both sides while pleasing neither, so optics at best.
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After appearing destined to fail when the governing Liberal/NDP’s vowed Monday to not let the opposition sway its foreign policy, Government House Leader Steven MacKinnon shocked MPs on both sides of the aisle when he rose in the final minutes of debate to advance a nearly 500-word motion that rephrased considerable portions of the NDP/Liberal motion.
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After generating considerable international attention and division among MPs during a nearly day-long debate, the non-binding but symbolic NDP/Liberal motion ultimately passed 204 to 117.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and almost all Liberal/NDP MPs voted in favour, alongside NDP/Liberals, Bloc Quebecois and all both Green MPs. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and his party voted against the proposal.
While nearly every element of the motion was altered, arguably the biggest change came in the final line…while Jagmeet Singh was ecstatic to just appear relevant. He’ll call it a win ‘cuz his name got mentioned not as the punchline of a joke he believed.
During a lengthy address laying out the left-of-centre party's stance (Which is ALL of Parliament except the Conservatives),…
1710826283092.jpeg…hours before agreeing to accept the Liberal/NDP government's wording, NDP/Liberal foreign affairs critic Heather McPherson said the time had come to "recognize Palestine." (???)
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Insisting they did not intend to use this motion as a "gotcha" political tactic, she called the choice to not do more to aid starving children who "are not Hamas" political.

The above sounds so oddly familiar…

Talks had taken place between the Liberal/NDP’s and their non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition supply-and-confidence deal NDP/Liberal partners behind the scenes leading up to the debate about the wording of the motion and potential amendments…so surprisingly not surprising.
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"Today's vote is a historic test for all MPs on perhaps (one of the) the most significant international issue(s) of the day. Many Canadian voters will keenly remember where their MP stood on this vote when it comes to future election campaigns,"
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A motion from the NDP/Liberals initially calling on Canada to recognize the "State of Palestine" passed amid widespread acrimony on Monday, after the Liberal/NDP’s drastically altered its wording to see the government simply work towards that aim as part of a two-state solution….so waffling to try & please both sides while pleasing neither, so optics at best.
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After appearing destined to fail when the governing Liberal/NDP’s vowed Monday to not let the opposition sway its foreign policy, Government House Leader Steven MacKinnon shocked MPs on both sides of the aisle when he rose in the final minutes of debate to advance a nearly 500-word motion that rephrased considerable portions of the NDP/Liberal motion.
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After generating considerable international attention and division among MPs during a nearly day-long debate, the non-binding but symbolic NDP/Liberal motion ultimately passed 204 to 117.
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and almost all Liberal/NDP MPs voted in favour, alongside NDP/Liberals, Bloc Quebecois and all both Green MPs. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and his party voted against the proposal.
While nearly every element of the motion was altered, arguably the biggest change came in the final line…while Jagmeet Singh was ecstatic to just appear relevant. He’ll call it a win ‘cuz his name got mentioned not as the punchline of a joke he believed.
During a lengthy address laying out the left-of-centre party's stance (Which is ALL of Parliament except the Conservatives),…
View attachment 21479…hours before agreeing to accept the Liberal/NDP government's wording, NDP/Liberal foreign affairs critic Heather McPherson said the time had come to "recognize Palestine." (???)
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Insisting the did not intend to use this motion as a "gotcha" political tactic, she called the choice to not do more to aid starving children who "are not Hamas" political.

The above sounds so oddly familiar…

Talks had taken place between the Liberal/NDP’s and their non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition supply-and-confidence deal NDP/Liberal partners behind the scenes leading up to the debate about the wording of the motion and potential amendments…so surprisingly not surprising.
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"Today's vote is a historic test for all MPs on perhaps (one of the) the most significant international issue(s) of the day. Many Canadian voters will keenly remember where their MP stood on this vote when it comes to future election campaigns,"
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Once the US base is built and the peacekeeping force moves in they're going to need a provisional system of Govt, police and an election pronto.

That'll be expensive. Good thing there is gas to pay for it. If they are good boys and girls they'll get Canadian gas tech and Westinghouse reactors for electric donkies.
 

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Humiliation loomed, until … at the 11th hour, after debate in the chamber had closed, the Liberal House leader, Steve McKinnon, stood to put forward a series of amendments. The most consequential was a proposal to replace the unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state with language more in line with current policy: that Canada would work with international partners to pursue the goal of a “comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, including towards the establishment of a state of Palestine as part of a two-state solution.”

The motion’s sponsor, NDP MP Heather McPherson, agreed to the amendments and Trudeau’s blushes were spared.

We will doubtless find out the quid for this particular quo in the next budget.

The hasty nature of the rescue act was apparent from the fact that McKinnon did not even table a French translation of the amendment.

The whole thing smacked of farce and furtive intrigue. MPs on all sides complained that their parliamentary privileges were infringed because for hours they had debated a motion that, when finally presented for vote, bore little resemblance to the original.
Since the start of the war between Russia and Ukraine, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said, “Canada will stand with Ukraine with whatever it takes, for as long as it takes.”

On Monday night, Justin Trudeau’s actions told our Israeli allies, “Canada will stand with Israel until it gets mildly uncomfortable for the Liberal Party.”

Both Ukraine and Israel have been invaded by brutal, sadistic enemies who launched deadly and illegal invasions. To Trudeau, and his Liberal Party who voted in favour of the NDP motion, only Ukraine can really defend itself.

Standing with Ukraine is the principled position that Canada should take, but so too is standing with Israel, with whatever it takes, for as long as it takes.

And here is where domestic politics, specifically ethnic diaspora politics, enters the equation and changes Canada’s position from one of principle to one of expediency.

There are an estimated 1.3 million Canadians with Ukrainian ancestry, and they have a strong interest is supporting Kyiv. By comparison, there are fewer than 350,000 Jews in Canada but nearly 1.8 million Muslims, a fact not lost on the Liberals as they shifted Canada’s allegiances on Monday.
 

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Humiliation loomed, until … at the 11th hour, after debate in the chamber had closed, the Liberal House leader, Steve McKinnon, stood to put forward a series of amendments. The most consequential was a proposal to replace the unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state with language more in line with current policy: that Canada would work with international partners to pursue the goal of a “comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, including towards the establishment of a state of Palestine as part of a two-state solution.”

The motion’s sponsor, NDP MP Heather McPherson, agreed to the amendments and Trudeau’s blushes were spared.

We will doubtless find out the quid for this particular quo in the next budget.

The hasty nature of the rescue act was apparent from the fact that McKinnon did not even table a French translation of the amendment.

The whole thing smacked of farce and furtive intrigue. MPs on all sides complained that their parliamentary privileges were infringed because for hours they had debated a motion that, when finally presented for vote, bore little resemblance to the original.
Since the start of the war between Russia and Ukraine, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said, “Canada will stand with Ukraine with whatever it takes, for as long as it takes.”

On Monday night, Justin Trudeau’s actions told our Israeli allies, “Canada will stand with Israel until it gets mildly uncomfortable for the Liberal Party.”

Both Ukraine and Israel have been invaded by brutal, sadistic enemies who launched deadly and illegal invasions. To Trudeau, and his Liberal Party who voted in favour of the NDP motion, only Ukraine can really defend itself.

Standing with Ukraine is the principled position that Canada should take, but so too is standing with Israel, with whatever it takes, for as long as it takes.

And here is where domestic politics, specifically ethnic diaspora politics, enters the equation and changes Canada’s position from one of principle to one of expediency.

There are an estimated 1.3 million Canadians with Ukrainian ancestry, and they have a strong interest is supporting Kyiv. By comparison, there are fewer than 350,000 Jews in Canada but nearly 1.8 million Muslims, a fact not lost on the Liberals as they shifted Canada’s allegiances on Monday.
It's going to take a peacekeeping force...
 

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It's going to take a peacekeeping force...
They’ve got one. It’s called Hamas. They’re just not good at keeping the peace or maintaining a cease-fire with their neighbours, or not robbing their own citizens, etc…so maybe they can deputize the UNRWA employees for their shifts that aren’t for UNRWA or Hamas if any of them are looking for a third job?
 

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They’ve got one. It’s called Hamas. They’re just not good at keeping the peace or maintaining a cease-fire with their neighbours, or not robbing their own citizens, etc…so maybe they can deputize the UNRWA employees for their shifts that aren’t for UNRWA or Hamas if any of them are looking for a third job?
The US is building a "base" but they call it a "humanitarian port". The peacekeeping force will be there to rescue Palestine from themselves and protect them from Israel.

Mark my words.
 

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Quebec Liberal MP Anthony Housefather says he is "reflecting" on his future in the Liberal party after a heavily amended NDP motion on Palestinian statehood passed in the House of Commons on Monday.

Housefather was among three Liberals who voted against the final motion, which called only for progress towards a two-state solution instead of the recognition of a Palestinian state.

The other two, former public-safety minister Marco Mendicino and Manitoba MP Ben Carr, both say they are disappointed in how the 11th-hour amendment process went.

Neither of them is considering a change in their political alliance.

But Housefather says when his fellow Liberal/NDP’s gave a standing ovation to the NDP/Liberal’s over the motion, for the first time in his life he isn't certain he wants to stay in the caucus.
 

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A Conservative motion to “spike the hike” and stop the April 1 carbon price increase will face a vote in the House of Commons on Wednesday as the environment minister says, “We can’t put climate change on pause.”
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Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre introduced a motion earlier this week to stop the annual carbon price increase, which is set to rise to $80 per tonne on April 1 from the current $65 per tonne.
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Increases are scheduled to take place annually until 2030 when the pollution levy is set to reach $170 per tonne.
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“Today I’m announcing that if [Prime Minister Justin] Trudeau does not declare today an end to his forthcoming tax increases on food, gas and heat that we will introduce a motion of non-confidence in the prime minister,” Poilievre said at an address to his caucus.
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“And call for the House to be dissolved so that Canadians can vote in a carbon tax election.”
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So…expect another NDP/Liberal capitulation to the Liberal/NDP’s in the days to come…as part of their pocket a favour promise to the Liberal/NDP’s for the universal Pharma care agreement that isn’t universal or a Pharmacy agreement…
Even if the motion is introduced, it likely will not be successful, due to the NDP having an agreement with the Liberals to support them on confidence matters in exchange for pushing legislative priorities like pharmacare.

When asked about the carbon price hike previously, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said he wants to see the GST removed from home heating as he says it is an essential service (???) but the Myriad of other things that the carbon tax is imposed upon aren’t? Transporting food from producer to production to grocery stores to your kitchen…that’s not essential???

This is the final sitting week for MPs before April 1, and the Conservatives signalled plans to use a variety of legislative tools to stop the increase.

On Tuesday, Environment and Climate Change Minister Steven Guilbeault said that the government will not pause the increase, despite receiving a request from the Liberal premier of Newfoundland and Labrador (and SIX other provincial premieres, who aren’t liberals, but they should have voted liberal if they wanted their voices to be heard I guess) and growing concerns from Ontario Liberals about the policy, saying climate change isn’t stopping?
 
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Ron in Regina

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Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre introduced a motion earlier this week to stop the annual carbon price increase, which is set to rise to $80 per tonne on April 1 from the current $65 per tonne.
Trudeau's signature climate policy was introduced in 2019, but it has been opposed by most Canadian provinces. Last year, the government offered a three-year carbon tax exemption for home heating oil and higher carbon tax rebates for people in rural areas (Specifically the Maritimes), to bring relief amid soaring costs of living to usually Liberal leaning Maritime provinces.
“Today I’m announcing that if [Prime Minister Justin] Trudeau does not declare today an end to his forthcoming tax increases on food, gas and heat that we will introduce a motion of non-confidence in the prime minister,” Poilievre said at an address to his caucus.
The next federal election must be held by October 2025 and recent surveys of public opinion show the Conservatives will easily defeat the Liberals, who have been in office since November 2015.

So…expect another NDP/Liberal capitulation to the Liberal/NDP’s in the days to come…as part of their pocket a favour promise to the Liberal/NDP’s for the universal Pharma care agreement that isn’t universal or a Pharmacy agreement…
When asked about the carbon price hike previously, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said he wants to see the GST removed from home heating as he says it is an essential service (???) but the Myriad of other things that the carbon tax is imposed upon aren’t? Transporting food from producer to production to grocery stores to your kitchen…that’s not essential???
Legislators (meaning the Liberal/NDP, the NDP/Liberals, the Bloc who only support Quebec who doesn’t pay the Federal Carbon Tax, & all both Greens) voted 204-116 (the Conservatives) to defeat the motion introduced by Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre, who says the tax imposes too great a cost on Canadians.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberal government on Thursday survived a no-confidence motion brought by the opposition Conservative Party over Canada's carbon tax, which looks set to be a major issue in an election likely to be held next year.
The Liberal/NDP only have a minority of seats in the House of Commons elected chamber and rely on support from the smaller left-leaning NDP/Liberals, who voted to back the government. Surprise!!?

In other news, from the CBC, the Opposition to the Opposition of the Government (???) and not the Government themselves (???), NDP/Liberals are asking the federal lobbying commissioner to investigate what he calls "potentially inappropriate lobbying activities" by top Conservative strategist Jenni Byrne.

NDP/Liberal MP Charlie Angus mocked Poilievre’s threat of bringing down the government over the carbon tax and noted that it was not the first time that the Conservative leader had made a promise to slow down the work of the Commons without exactly following through…due to the non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition…that no Canadian voted for.
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Trudeau's signature climate policy was introduced in 2019, but it has been opposed by most Canadian provinces. Last year, the government offered a three-year carbon tax exemption for home heating oil and higher carbon tax rebates for people in rural areas (Specifically the Maritimes), to bring relief amid soaring costs of living to usually Liberal leaning Maritime provinces.

The next federal election must be held by October 2025 and recent surveys of public opinion show the Conservatives will easily defeat the Liberals, who have been in office since November 2015.

So…expect another NDP/Liberal capitulation to the Liberal/NDP’s in the days to come…as part of their pocket a favour promise to the Liberal/NDP’s for the universal Pharma care agreement that isn’t universal or a Pharmacy agreement…

Legislators (meaning the Liberal/NDP, the NDP/Liberals, the Bloc who only support Quebec who doesn’t pay the Federal Carbon Tax, & all both Greens) voted 204-116 (the Conservatives) to defeat the motion introduced by Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre, who says the tax imposes too great a cost on Canadians.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberal government on Thursday survived a no-confidence motion brought by the opposition Conservative Party over Canada's carbon tax, which looks set to be a major issue in an election likely to be held next year.
The Liberal/NDP only have a minority of seats in the House of Commons elected chamber and rely on support from the smaller left-leaning NDP/Liberals, who voted to back the government. Surprise!!?

In other news, from the CBC, the Opposition to the Opposition of the Government (???) and not the Government themselves (???), NDP/Liberals are asking the federal lobbying commissioner to investigate what he calls "potentially inappropriate lobbying activities" by top Conservative strategist Jenni Byrne.

NDP/Liberal MP Charlie Angus mocked Poilievre’s threat of bringing down the government over the carbon tax and noted that it was not the first time that the Conservative leader had made a promise to slow down the work of the Commons without exactly following through…due to the non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition…that no Canadian voted for.
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Yep. The three Liberal MPs that’re still Liberal MP’s (more or less) joined all 115 Conservative MPs in voting against the motion…so that left the Liberal/NDP’s & the NDP/Liberals in lockstep with the Bloc & all two Green MP’s voting for it.
1711132387952.jpegI’m assuming this will be amazingly similar to those that voted for and against the confidence motion on Justin Trudeau’s increase in the Carbon Tax(s) again this coming April Fools Day…with the exception of the 3 Liberal MP’s.
 
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