Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

Ron in Regina

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It dawned on me that this thread just didn’t exist. It is mentioned a lot (usually by me) across many many (many) other threads….but there’s no thread in and of itself regarding the Non-Coalition Coalition that has ruled our country pretty much since Justin & Jagmeet came out of the closet due to the Honk Honk parking situation that hadn’t even happened yet.

Leading up to the Trucker Protest Goat Rodeo, it became obvious that Misters Trudeau & Singh were finishing each other’s sentences, like an old married couple. Pretty bizarre actually but this is Canada.

Jagmeet Singh is the Lead of the NDP, which is one of the “Opposition” parties in Parliament. The opposition's right and duty, if it believes the public interest is at stake, is to oppose the government's policies and actions by every legitimate parliamentary means. In so doing, oppositions try to convince the electorate that they should change places with the government. Seriously.
http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/bp47-e.htm#:~:text=The%20opposition's%20right%20and%20duty,change%20places%20with%20the%20government.

Jagmeet takes (took?) his role seriously too:

But….that was then and this is now, and after a couple years of this, we are seeing the fruits of his labours, Regardless of what the minority government Liberals do scandal or ethics wise:

With strict timelines to maintain the NDP’s loyalty in this Non-Coalition Coalition that’s definitely not a Coalition type Coalition….or not…until at least February of 2025…because it’s 2015-ish.

Why February of 2025? No reason.

It just seemed like the reasonable and reasonable time to maintain this unity, no matter what the Liberal Party of Canada does or doesn’t do…for Canada! If it works out, perhaps Jagmeet can support Justin for a fourth term of unanswerability to Parliament or the will of the Canadian electorate.
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Anyway, I thought it would be a public service to provide a destination for memes, jokes, cartoons, and related media pertaining to this Non-Coalition Coalition.
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Ron in Regina

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OK, if I move to Canaduh, get citizenship, and join a party, I'm DEFINITELY going with the Vacant Party.

I might even end up being the Vacant Party Parliamentary Caucus!
Vacant has less than 12 Seats, so I’m not sure if it’s a “Recognized Party” but then the Green Party may or may not be a “Recognized Party” either for whatever that means.
 
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Recognized party has something to do with funding for staff. The greens don't need staff, because they just spew the same few lines over and over.
 
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Ron in Regina

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During a recent press conference, the prime minister said he remains "deeply committed" to the idea of electoral reform, but continues to want to operate on a consensus basis.

"It shouldn't be any one party even, with the majority, that gets to decide," Trudeau said.

"And rather than risk Canadian democracy for the sake of ticking off a box ... we're going to make sure we continue to work on building consensus. As I've said many times, including recently to Jagmeet, if they're willing to come to a consensus around improving our electoral system, I'm happy to revisit it anytime."
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Ron in Regina

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On Wednesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spent several minutes during question period attacking Loblaw and their supposed lobbyist. Meanwhile, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh denounced a Conservative MP over his family ties to big grocers though the ownership of Giant Tiger.

Yes, that’s right, Giant Tiger, the little discount store that grew out of Ottawa’s Byward Market into a chain of more than 250 stores from P.E.I. to Alberta is the real culprit. Singh took to Twitter to warn us all that longtime Conservative MP Scott Reid has been told by the ethics commissioner not to vote on Singh’s bill “to lower grocery prices” because of a conflict.

“The Conflict of Interest Commissioner ruling has exposed his deep ties to Corporate Grocery that has profited millions,” Singh posted.

Perhaps the man who wears custom-made three-piece suits and Rolex watches doesn’t understand what Giant Tiger is, but millions of average Canadians do. It is a discount store that offers cheap prices on a range of clothing, household goods and, yes, groceries.

If Singh thinks Giant Tiger is the problem, he isn’t ever going to find the answer. And his bill to “lower grocery prices” is never going to pass and if it ever did, there would be no change.

Mr. Drive a BMW in his bespoke suit with a Rolex watch and a $2,000 bicycle in the trunk really needs to sit this one out. Singh wouldn’t know what low-income Canadians deal with, where they shop or how they cope with the prices spiraling out of control thanks in part to the government he keeps in office.

As for Trudeau, there seemed to be a moment during question period on Wednesday when the answer to every question was Jenni Byrne works for Loblaw. Byrne is one of Poilievre’s top advisors and ran his leadership campaign and despite what Trudeau claims, doesn’t work for Loblaw and isn’t their lobbyist.
Yet, when Poilievre asked Trudeau about the very real problem of auto theft, he responded that Poilievre’s top strategist works for Loblaw. When Poilievre responded with the fact that several current and former Trudeau staffers have worked for Loblaw or been lobbyists for the firm, it didn’t stop Trudeau from attacking the Conservatives and Loblaw.

The truth is, Byrne and her firm don’t do any federal lobbying and Byrne said in a phone call that she’s never even met Galen Weston, the head of Loblaw.
With their antics this week, Trudeau and Singh have proven that they and their Liberal-NDP coalition are past their best-before dates.
 

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On Wednesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spent several minutes during question period attacking Loblaw and their supposed lobbyist. Meanwhile, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh denounced a Conservative MP over his family ties to big grocers though the ownership of Giant Tiger.

Yes, that’s right, Giant Tiger, the little discount store that grew out of Ottawa’s Byward Market into a chain of more than 250 stores from P.E.I. to Alberta is the real culprit. Singh took to Twitter to warn us all that longtime Conservative MP Scott Reid has been told by the ethics commissioner not to vote on Singh’s bill “to lower grocery prices” because of a conflict.

“The Conflict of Interest Commissioner ruling has exposed his deep ties to Corporate Grocery that has profited millions,” Singh posted.

Perhaps the man who wears custom-made three-piece suits and Rolex watches doesn’t understand what Giant Tiger is, but millions of average Canadians do. It is a discount store that offers cheap prices on a range of clothing, household goods and, yes, groceries.

If Singh thinks Giant Tiger is the problem, he isn’t ever going to find the answer. And his bill to “lower grocery prices” is never going to pass and if it ever did, there would be no change.

Mr. Drive a BMW in his bespoke suit with a Rolex watch and a $2,000 bicycle in the trunk really needs to sit this one out. Singh wouldn’t know what low-income Canadians deal with, where they shop or how they cope with the prices spiraling out of control thanks in part to the government he keeps in office.

As for Trudeau, there seemed to be a moment during question period on Wednesday when the answer to every question was Jenni Byrne works for Loblaw. Byrne is one of Poilievre’s top advisors and ran his leadership campaign and despite what Trudeau claims, doesn’t work for Loblaw and isn’t their lobbyist.
Yet, when Poilievre asked Trudeau about the very real problem of auto theft, he responded that Poilievre’s top strategist works for Loblaw. When Poilievre responded with the fact that several current and former Trudeau staffers have worked for Loblaw or been lobbyists for the firm, it didn’t stop Trudeau from attacking the Conservatives and Loblaw.

The truth is, Byrne and her firm don’t do any federal lobbying and Byrne said in a phone call that she’s never even met Galen Weston, the head of Loblaw.
With their antics this week, Trudeau and Singh have proven that they and their Liberal-NDP coalition are past their best-before dates.
What dont they like aboot Shitty Kitty?

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Ron in Regina

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If Singh now feels the need to step up the pressure on Trudeau, it may be because he's facing internal pressure from his own caucus.
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Sources say some NDP MPs feel threatened by their Conservative opponents in different regions of the country. They say they fear that their association with the Liberals will become a burden that could harm their chances of re-election — and they need a major win on drug coverage to boost their chances.
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This wouldn't be the first time Singh has (toothlessly?) threatened to pull out of the agreement if the Liberals don't meet expectations. The agreement also called for a dental coverage program for mid- to low-income Canadians. When negotiations on dental care were dragging, Singh also threatened to pull support.
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The federal NDP has warned its Parliament Hill staff to prepare themselves for the possible sudden termination of the party's supply-and-confidence deal with the Liberals — a bipartisan cooperation agreement which may be holding off an early election…perhaps even as soon as October 20th, 2025…1/2 a year after Jagmeet is guaranteed his golden pension.
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If Singh now feels the need to step up the pressure on Trudeau, it may be because he's facing internal pressure from his own caucus.
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Sources say some NDP MPs feel threatened by their Conservative opponents in different regions of the country. They say they fear that their association with the Liberals will become a burden that could harm their chances of re-election — and they need a major win on drug coverage to boost their chances.
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This wouldn't be the first time Singh has (toothlessly?) threatened to pull out of the agreement if the Liberals don't meet expectations. The agreement also called for a dental coverage program for mid- to low-income Canadians. When negotiations on dental care were dragging, Singh also threatened to pull support.
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The federal NDP has warned its Parliament Hill staff to prepare themselves for the possible sudden termination of the party's supply-and-confidence deal with the Liberals — a bipartisan cooperation agreement which may be holding off an early election…perhaps even as soon as October 20th, 2025…1/2 a year after Jagmeet is guaranteed his golden pension.
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Didn’t I say the same thing last week ?
 
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Ron in Regina

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This is interesting from the Senior Digital Parliamentary Reporter. Didn’t even know that we had one but…there she is, & the fact that she’s the senior one implies that perhaps there’s more than one even!!

Jagmeet Singh being questioned, & not mining words, or really saying anything either…but he’s firm, about something, that he won’t talk about, but…
..Frank and Direct about…nothing that he’ll comment on, without saying anything? He’s talking about Pharmacare, without actually saying anything about it, beyond March 1st something might happen, maybe.
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(Oh, & some on ArriveCan & Danielle Smith and PP’s reaction to Alberta’s stance this week)

Anyway, Jagmeet’s pension doesn’t come to fruition until the spring of 2025, & the NDP war-chest is like what you might find if you toss the couch cushions and frisk the sofa…so not much of a threat against the non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition.
 

Ron in Regina

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This week, the NDP’s Charlie Angus tabled a private member’s bill that arguably ranks as one of the more illiberal pieces of legislation to ever hit the House of Commons order paper. The Fossil Fuel Advertising Act would prescribe jail time for anyone who “promotes” fossil fuels — even if their promotion includes ostensibly true things, such as selling oil is good for the economy.

The Liberals response? “That’s interesting & we look forward to exploring & debating it.”
The federal NDP member's message and new private member's bill will play less well among the Canadians whose livelihoods rely on the production and sale of the fossil fuels that nearly all other Canadians wind up using on a daily basis to move around and stay warm.

And surely almost anyone in this country will recognize where most of those oil-producing Canadians reside — that variously flat and bumpy region whose own provincial NDP wing just so happens to be embarking on a debate over how to redefine themselves.
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Ron in Regina

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The Liberals response? “That’s interesting & we look forward to exploring & debating it.”
Federal Environment Minister Stephen Guilbeault, whose press secretary told the CBC:
“We welcome the NDP’s bill to the House. Advertisement has a big role to play in public perception, and the industry is racking in record profits. We will carefully assess their bill and look forward to productive debates and discussions around this important issue.”

 

Ron in Regina

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Health Minister Mark Holland says he has “every confidence” his government can deliver pharmacare legislation by the promised March 1 deadline, and that the Liberals are “not pulling the fire alarm” on their confidence-and-supply non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition deal with the NDP over the issue.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said this week there will be “repercussions” if the Liberals don’t table a sufficient piece of pharmacare framework legislation by next month, and signalled he’ll consider (but not actually do anything about) a missed deadline to mean they’ve “walked away” from their confidence-and-supply non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition agreement.
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The pact sees the NDP prop up the Liberals until 2025 in exchange for progress on key priorities, including pharmacare, for which the parties have already extended the deadline once before…so far.
The parties had initially set the deadline for tabling pharmacare framework legislation for the end of last year, but in December, they pushed back that cut-off date to March 1.

This week, Singh said there will be “repercussions” (but not what those would be) if the government doesn’t follow through by the set time, and that he considers it to mean they’ve “walked away” from the confidence-and-supply non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition pact.
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