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Same thing today. You take a gang of criminals where one is a woman, she almost invariably gets off with a lighter sentence.



That is so true. Case in point: consider the big difference in the way Hope Solo was treated by the sports and main stream media as well as the rest of society. Except for a handful of people (myself, for example) nobody has called for her suspension from the women's pro soccer league or disqualification from the US national team.
 

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That is so true. Case in point: consider the big difference in the way Hope Solo was treated by the sports and main stream media as well as the rest of society. Except for a handful of people (myself, for example) nobody has called for her suspension from the women's pro soccer league or disqualification from the US national team.

Hmmm... good point.

Not a peep.
 

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No...I don't.


If this is true, then yes...I agree.


They should both be suspended.



Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking about - The Washington Post





Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking about


By Cindy Boren September 19


The official account shows that Hope Solo extended her shutout record to 73 games as the U.S. women’s national team beat Mexico 4-0 in a friendly Thursday night in Rochester, N.Y.

But as the NFL grapples with its domestic-violence crisis, Solo, who has been accused of the same crime, continues to play for her pro soccer team as well as the national team as she awaits trial in November. Solo has pleaded not guilty to two counts of misdemeanor domestic violence in an alleged assault of her sister and 17-year-old nephew last summer in Kirkland, Wash.

Unlike some of the biggest NFL stars, Solo, who is their counterpart in women’s soccer and someone touted as a role model, quietly goes about her business of keeping soccer balls from going into the net. NFL stars like Ray Rice, Greg Hardy, Jonathan Dwyer and Adrian Peterson were banished after massive sponsor, political and fan pressure, but Nike, for instance, has remained silent on Solo.

The folks at @nike dropped @adrianpeterson but they’ve said not a peep about @hopesolo and domestic violence. This makes no sense.

— rolandsmartin (@rolandsmartin) September 19, 2014

If we’re going to criticize #NFL teams for their handling of domestic violence, how do we feel about #USWMNT letting Hope Solo play? — Robert Flores (@RoFloESPN) September 18, 2014

Hope Solo is playing in a US soccer game tonight despite 2 domestic assault charges. No outrage here though, right? pic.twitter.com/edJNBeFWcH

— Phillip Mena (@phillipmenaKPRC) September 18, 2014

So Hope Solo can represent our country after being arrested for domestic violence and everyone is okay with that. Just saying

— Jamie Lasker (@JamieLasker) September 19, 2014

Rice is appealing an indefinite suspension by the NFL and was cut by the Baltimore Ravens after he knocked out his then-fiancee; Hardy and Peterson are both on the exempt commissioner’s list (essentially on leave with pay) while their legal cases are pending. Dwyer was suspended by the Arizona Cardinals after his arrest Wednesday on a charge of head-butting his wife. The Carolina Panthers’ Hardy is appealing his conviction by a judge of assaulting and threatening an ex-girlfriend; the Minnesota Vikings’ Peterson was arrested last weekend on a child-abuse charge. Solo, who is also on the Seattle Reign roster, continues to play as a big year for women’s soccer is looming with qualifying this fall for the next summer’s World Cup.

“We are aware that Hope is handling a personal situation at the moment,” said Neil Buethe, U.S. Soccer director of communications, told USA Today’s Christine Brennan, who criticized the organization’s decision to honor Solo’s record last month. “At the same time, she has an opportunity to set a significant record that speaks to her hard work and dedication over the years with the National Team. While considering all factors involved, we believe that we should recognize that in the proper way.”

While U.S. Soccer doesn’t have the same high profile as the NFL, how do the cases differ? Aren’t women’s soccer players just as much role models as male football players? The goalkeeping record is an an important one, both for Solo and for women’s soccer, but does it really trump an accusation of domestic violence? Why is the notion of awaiting due process so inconsistently applied? And why aren’t more people talking about the fact that domestic violence isn’t simply an issue of men against women?

Gameday! #USWNT vs Mexico at 7 ET on ESPN2… Let’s goooooo!

— Hope Solo (@hopesolo) September 18, 2014






Solo's continued presence in the women's pro league and USA national team is a disgrace and a sexist double standard.
 

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Tecumseh,


Yeah, like the reason that nobody gives two hoots about women's soccer ...

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Oh wait... I must have got this all wrong.



Truest words you ever spoke.




While Eagle is often wrong about a number of subjects he is correct that this continues to be buried and that there is no possible justification for that.

As for the notion that few people care about women's soccer you could not be more wrong. A crowd of over 90,000 in Pasadena to watch the Women's World Cup in 1999 with large tv audiences belie the myth that the sport has no following. It certainly has had its share of followers here in Gopherland. But the following is not quite as large because the players refused to give autographs to fans, displayed a great deal of snobbery when the cameras weren't looking, and some players even used profane language to ward away autograph seekers or well wishers. The news media would give all kinds of hell to the NFL or any other male league or group of players if they acted in this manner in public. But it has given free reign to women athletes whose behavior is arguably worse than that of male players because they directed some of that abuse to children. That is not only unacceptable, it is unforgivable.

Pretending that Hope Solo's misconduct can be disregarded because her sport is not as popular as the NFL is a lame argument. A total FAIL. Worse than some of the puny right wing arguments we have on this forum. If Solo is going to be the "role model" some sponsors believe her to be she needs to behave herself. Further, the women's league and the National team both need to ban her for her misdeeds. Next, the sponsors need to drop her and her team as just like Radisson did with the Vikings in the Peterson matter. But perhaps more importantly, society and the nitwits in the news media need to apply the same standard to her, her colleagues, and to women's leagues as they do to men's leagues.
 

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Pretending that Hope Solo's misconduct can be disregarded because her sport is not as popular as the NFL is a lame argument. A total FAIL. Worse than some of the puny right wing arguments we have on this forum. If Solo is going to be the "role model" some sponsors believe her to be she needs to behave herself. Further, the women's league and the National team both need to ban her for her misdeeds. Next, the sponsors need to drop her and her team as just like Radisson did with the Vikings in the Peterson matter. But perhaps more importantly, society and the nitwits in the news media need to apply the same standard to her, her colleagues, and to women's leagues as they do to men's leagues.
I'm just describing the phenomenon, gopher. I leave the moralising to you.
 

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Tecumsehsbones; said:
I'm just describing the phenomenon, gopher. I leave the moralising to you.



And all I'm saying is that people need to apply the same standards across the board:


Where's the Outrage Over Hope Solo's Alleged Acts of Domestic Violence?


This writer, like the ones in Wapo and Huffington who discussed this are all "liberal". Fox and ESPN sports which are both conservative failed to express similar views. Interesting ain't it.
 

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It's OK. It's your opinion and an admirable sentiment. But as I said, I was answering the question "Why isn't Hope Solo being treated the same as Ray Rice?" Butt-hurt white boys insist that it's strictly because she's not a man. Boo. Hoo. While that plays a role, so does the fact that nobody gives a crap about women's soccer.
 

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I'm just describing the phenomenon, gopher. I leave the moralising to you.


The phenomenon of you being the eternal victim?

It's OK. It's your opinion and an admirable sentiment. But as I said, I was answering the question "Why isn't Hope Solo being treated the same as Ray Rice?" Butt-hurt white boys insist that it's strictly because she's not a man. Boo. Hoo. While that plays a role, so does the fact that nobody gives a crap about women's soccer.


Even though being a "white boy" has ZERO to do with any of this. But we know you're the forum "victim" and will bring foolish comparisons regardless of the topic to show how "butt-hurt" YOU are.