Start at Page 1 Chapter 1 of the Holocene and tells us what set it off. Let's go through the Holocene page by page. You explain it all right up to this day Let's talk it out.
New Study Is A ‘Death Blow’ To Global Warming Hysteria
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Your movement is done waldo... Over... Kaput
You are wasting your time and energy playing make-believe and hoping that it magically revives itself.
The AGW corpse is in the pine box, 6' down and has rotted into mush.. Time to move on
Well I see someone is still excellent at making friends. :roll:
Here's the really baffling part. If one truly does believe that AGW is a real and present danger, you'd expect that someone to be actually trying to convince others.
Here's the really baffling part. If one truly does believe that AGW is a real and present danger, you'd expect that someone to be actually trying to convince others.
The only thing he's convinced me of is that drama is a large part of his life. The Global Warming debate, as with most political debates, has been overtaken by the extremes. It's all either the biggest bunch of bullsh!t ever or that the sky is falling. I don't particularly buy into either one. But that is the level of debate on this subject everywhere. You're either a heretic or a blasphemer, there's no room for anyone else.
and so am I. Again, as has been pointed out, by more than just me, more than one time, those of us "older" people have been through these "theories" and "predictions" in the past. Tell us why we should believe the scientists this time around when their track record over the last 40 years has been so dismal. The scientific community, in the past, had predicted wide spread famine and flooding due to "global warming" brought on by humanity by the end of the last century with death rates across the globe in the neighbourhood of 30% minimum. Obviously, none of that has come to pass despite the fact that CO2 levels have increased and global temps have apparently also increased.
Growing food has never been better. The past five years have all been record setting abdudances.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...rming-crop-production-keeps-breaking-records/
why do you continue to deflect away from your multiple posts where you kept nattering on about the prior 800 years... the last "AGW" (as you stooopidly referred to it). Now... now... you don't want to have anything to do with your prior nattering and are attempting to change the channel - of course you are! Again:
attaboy! Go with your strengths!
be well with your denial! It suits you.
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I take my lead from you! :mrgreen: By the by, are you the facilitator for this anonymous persona friendship club?
"convince others"? You're so naive it's kinda cutesy! The denier crew around here hasn't the wherewithal to speak with any semblance of understanding and authority on anything... they live and die through their C&P wizardry of denier blogs and their perpetual recycling of talking points. I could care less what they think or say; however, I certainly relish each and every opportunity to showcase their failings. This most certainly isn't my "1st rodeo" in coming up against deniers who have absolutely no interest in truly exercising their claimed skepticism..... cause it's simply fake-skepticism in the name of denial for denial's sake!
why don't you go ask the GSA earth scientists? For some reason you keep avoiding any comment/acknowledgement of that GSA position statement I quoted. Go figure, hey? You sure felt it note worthy to claim the 2 organizations you supposedly belong to don't take/hold an attribution position on warming... and yet, somehow, you never quite managed to actually state the names of those 2 organizations. Wonder why, hey?
and again, why are continuing to avoid the pointed challenges put to you over your repeat references to the, as you said, "last AGW... some 800 years or so ago"?
you simply choose not to read what is posted to you in replies to this same theme you keep bringing forward. Again, it's one thing for a small number of independent scientists to offer prediction... it's an entirely different level for a scientific community at large to do the same... for world-wide scientific bodies/institutions/organizations to do the same. You're forever beaking off about so-called predictions that have not been significantly recognized and adopted by the greater global community of scientists and related scientific bodies/institutions/organizations. How many times must one keep saying the same thing to you?
citation request
You be well with your denial of reality... Really, keep pretending if it helps you sleep at night
is that the James Taylor... resident in-house lawyer for the Heartland Institute? Why... yes it is! :mrgreen: In any case, the guy offers up USDA links in your linked reference... that USDA, that U.S. Department of Agriculture, is one of the signatory stakeholders in the USGCRP
From the U.S. Global Change Research Program's (USGCRP) latest iterative (2014) National Climate Assessment report:
- Many agricultural regions will experience declines in crop and livestock production from increased stress due to weeds, diseases, insect pests, and other climate change induced stresses.
- Climate disruptions to agricultural production have increased in the recent past and are projected to increase further over the next 25 years. By mid-century and beyond, these impacts will be increasingly negative on most crops and livestock.
- The rising incidence of weather extremes will have increasingly negative impacts on crop and livestock productivity because critical thresholds are already being exceeded.
- Current loss and degradation of critical agricultural soil and water assets by increasing extremes in precipitation will continue to challenge both rain-fed and irrigated agriculture unless innovative conservation methods are implemented.
- Climate change is increasing the vulnerability of forests to ecosystem change and tree mortality through fire, insect infestations, drought, and disease outbreaks. Western U.S. forests are particularly vulnerable to increased wildfire and insect outbreaks; eastern forests have smaller disturbances but could be more sensitive to periodic drought.
- U.S. forests currently absorb about 13% of all carbon dioxide (CO2) emitted by fossil fuel burning in the U.S. Climate change, combined with current societal trends regarding land use and forest management, is projected to reduce forest CO2 uptake.
- Climate change impacts on ecosystems reduce their ability to improve water quality and regulate water flows.
- Climate change combined with other stressors is overwhelming the capacity of ecosystems to buffer the impacts from extreme events like fires, floods, and storms.
- Land- and sea-scapes are changing rapidly and species, including many iconic species, may disappear from regions where they have been prevalent, changing some regions so much that their mix of plant and animal life will become almost unrecognizable.
- Timing of critical biological events, such as spring bud burst, emergence from overwintering, and the start of migrations, will shift, leading to important impacts on species and habitats.
From the latest IPCC AR5 reports:- Climate disruptions to agricultural production have increased in the recent past and are projected to increase further over the next 25 years. By mid-century and beyond, these impacts will be increasingly negative on most crops and livestock.
- The rising incidence of weather extremes will have increasingly negative impacts on crop and livestock productivity because critical thresholds are already being exceeded.
- Current loss and degradation of critical agricultural soil and water assets by increasing extremes in precipitation will continue to challenge both rain-fed and irrigated agriculture unless innovative conservation methods are implemented.
- Climate change is increasing the vulnerability of forests to ecosystem change and tree mortality through fire, insect infestations, drought, and disease outbreaks. Western U.S. forests are particularly vulnerable to increased wildfire and insect outbreaks; eastern forests have smaller disturbances but could be more sensitive to periodic drought.
- U.S. forests currently absorb about 13% of all carbon dioxide (CO2) emitted by fossil fuel burning in the U.S. Climate change, combined with current societal trends regarding land use and forest management, is projected to reduce forest CO2 uptake.
- Climate change impacts on ecosystems reduce their ability to improve water quality and regulate water flows.
- Climate change combined with other stressors is overwhelming the capacity of ecosystems to buffer the impacts from extreme events like fires, floods, and storms.
- Land- and sea-scapes are changing rapidly and species, including many iconic species, may disappear from regions where they have been prevalent, changing some regions so much that their mix of plant and animal life will become almost unrecognizable.
- Timing of critical biological events, such as spring bud burst, emergence from overwintering, and the start of migrations, will shift, leading to important impacts on species and habitats.
you need to break free from the hold of your favoured denier blogs... those fake "blog scientists" are messin' with ya! Nothing says it clearer than your reaction to this OP and your repeated insistence that the referenced single scientist/single paper holds the "facts"... the "death blow facts". Ah yes, another denier's alignment... your alignment... with the "SINGLE PAPER SYNDROME"... one without any formal peer-response... one the paper's own author cautions over premature judgement/extension upon. That's YOUR REALITY! :mrgreen:
Wikileaks: Environmentalist Leonardo DiCaprio Flew Private Jet 6 Times in 6 Weeks - Breitbart
And we are supposed to take these guys seriously......
And we are supposed to take these guys seriously......