New hints about life on Mars

[eanassir]

If His revealed word says that Mars is Larger than Earth, I will tell Him He is wrong.

Compared to Earth, Mars is a tiny world. In fact, Mars' mass is only 10% the mass of the Earth.
Want some precise numbers? The mass of Mars is 6.4185Ã times ten to the 23rd kg. Since the mass of Earth is 5.9736Ã times ten to the 24th kg. Divide these two numbers, and you end up with the fact that the mass of Mars is 0.107 the mass of Earth.
Passing years don't seem to change hard facts...;-)

I'm just a slow typist Dexter. You said it better than I....Cheers

There is nothing in the Quran that Mars is smaller or bigger than Earth; this is the explanation of the inspired late interpreter of the Quran and Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan.

By the way: what is you, I and others: and you tell Him He is wrong: Glory be to God.

Bear in mind that all that you know and which God has taught you, is very little; like that of a child in the kindergarten.

Passing of years has to let man and woman be more wise and know his/her God and His apostles and His revealed Books. Because if not now, then when will man and woman have his/her wisdom and god-fearing?

And I tell you now, if anyone does not believe in God as One God without associate or son, and does not believe in Mohammed the apostle of God and in the Quran, then he will lose in the afterlife, whatever charity he has done in his life; as in the Quran

3: 85​

وَمَن يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الإِسْلاَمِ دِينًا فَلَن يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ وَهُوَ فِي الآخِرَةِ مِنَ الْخَاسِرِينَ​

The explanation:
(And whoso seeks as religion, other than the Islam, it will not be accepted from him [because the past religions were altered], and he shall, in the afterlife, be of those who lose [the prosperity of Paradise.])

Man will lose in the afterlife; because he has denied the last apostle Mohammed and the last book: the Quran.​

 

[eanassir]

The author needs to have a chat with the little Italian guy on that. Galileo would set him straight on the heliocentric nonsense.

What was the crime of Galileo that he was tried by the acquisition? They said he was heretic: they meant: he imported the teachings of Muslims who said the Earth is not the centre of the universe.

Because such acquisition started after the fall of the Andalus, and they started to search about some who followed the teachings of the Islam in secret to burn him because he is heretic.

 

[AnnaG]

What was the crime of Galileo that he was tried by the acquisition? They said he was heretic: they meant: he imported the teachings of Muslims who said the Earth is not the centre of the universe.

Because such acquisition started after the fall of the Andalus, and they started to search about some who followed the teachings of the Islam in secret to burn him because he is heretic.

What are you talking about? What acquisitions?

 

[eanassir]

lmao Using the same logic as that, just because there's life on Earth, there must be life on Pluto, Jupiter, or even the sun. You're hilarious. :lol:

Sun has not life; this is obvious; no one said this.

Why not on Jupiter and some other planets: on Jupiter the saw the lightning of the cloud; and they saw water on some of its moons even. And wherever water exists, then there is life also. Don't be hilarious :lol:

 

[AnnaG]

Sun has not life; this is obvious; no one said this.

Why not on Jupiter and some other planets: on Jupiter the saw the lightning of the cloud; and they saw water on some of its moons even. And wherever water exists, then there is life also. Don't be hilarious :lol:

I'm not the one making ridiculous claims. But I won't tell you what not to do. Do what you want.

 

[GreenFish66]

In any given time/space perhaps everything is alive...Perhaps the planets are alive!..In there own space, time, idea of life...What humans observe in the universe to be life..Is but a smidgen of the truth ...The truth would spin our minds till we got lost in the infinite possibilities..

Everything is energy and information ...The rest is recyclable waste

 

[#juan]

There is nothing in the Quran that Mars is smaller or bigger than Earth; this is the explanation of the inspired late interpreter of the Quran and Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan.

Maybe you should start addressing the questions yourself rather than leaning on this ignorant fool, Mohammed-Ali Hassan. He obviously knows/knew nothing of astronomy or science. Debate something you know about...You'll be far happier....So will we..:roll:

 

[eanassir]

Hey did you know that google could translate Arabic now?



Translates to:



The word "يُكَوِّر" means "wrapping" not, makes spherical, which would be "يجعل كروية".

When people wrap their babies in blankets in the Middle East, are they making them into little balls? How barbaric.

The word يكوّر means originally to wrap, and it means the roundness and sphericity.
Then see the translation of كرة which means: ball or sphere.
And the word الكرة الأرضية which means the Earth globe.​

Moreover, the literal translation is not always correct; like what you have obtained from Google: about the meaning of the last part of the aya:

كُلٌّ يَجْرِي لأجَلٍ مُسَمّىً ألا هُوَ العَزِيزُ الغَفّارُ​

While its meaning is:
(Each [of the sun and moon is] running on for an appointed term [when its life will end]; surely, He is the All-Mighty, the All-Forgiving!)​

Now compare what Google tells you in the literal translation; because each word has many meanings, and their machine did not select the proper meaning of the words: they give you this meaning:

is named for is not Ghaffar Aziz​

So they gave the meaning of مسمّى as "named" while it should be an appointed term, and the word ألا as "not" while it is on the contrary means the emphasis which is the word "surely"

Moreover, they did not give the meaning of العَزِيزُ الغَفّارُ so they gave the pronunciation of the words "Ghaffar Aziz"​

And there is some Arabic poetry which the interpreter cited in his Arabic book: this poetry I did not translate which confirm his interpretation of the word يكوّر :​

وما الفخرُ إلاَ أن تكون عمامتي ====== "مكوّرة" الأطراف بالصارم الهندي​

Which means: What is the glory and bosting in truth other than that I should fight the enemy and then be killed in the battle so that my "imama" or the head cover will be torn up into little spheres by the swords of the enemy.

 

[eanassir]

Maybe you should start addressing the questions yourself rather than leaning on this ignorant fool, Mohammed-Ali Hassan. He obviously knows/knew nothing of astronomy or science. Debate something you know about...You'll be far happier....So will we..:roll:

So you started to revile, and I quit myself from your words.

 

[eanassir]

I have no idea about that.
It doesn't. All it takes is to measure the distances to the planets and figure stellar parallax. You need a telescope, a piece of paper, a pencil or pen, a calculator would be nice but it isn't a necessity.

It isn't like this: Dexter said that the Quran tells that the Earth is flat and the Sun rotates around the Earth; so I asked him:

Where is such claims in the Quran; so that I may answer him.

 

[eanassir]

It must be a new book. The one I saw with "Quran" in its title just said "Quran" on the cover. It was a pretty cover, too, with nice embossing. This "Glorious Quran" is a sequel to it?

The cover and the decoration is not the important thing; see its meaning and contemplate in its ayat: and in case you are not Arab, then read at least the translation of the meaning of the Quran by a non-Muslim translator: A J Arberry
Arberry Quran translation

(although his translation is much defective; and any translation is only the translation of the meaning according to the understanding of such translator.)

And read also our sites including some valuable books giving much knowledge about the Glorious Quran:
ÕÝÍÉ ÌÏíÏÉ 1 (The Universe and the Quran)
Man after Death (Man after Death)
The Disagreement of the (The conflict between the Hebrew Bible and the Quran)

 

[eanassir]

Yup. That definitely looks like the same scribble. My chickens make similar marks on the ground when they look for bugs and stuff. ​

Save your breath, pilgrim, preaching at me just makes me bored. But, seeing as you're obviously into mythology, here's a bit of it from my people. It's called "A Puff Of Wind" and it's about the birth of Wenabozho, the Trickster:


Before there was a man, two women, an old one and her daughter, were the only humans on earth. The old woman had not needed a man in order to conceive. Ahki, the earth, also was like a woman -– female -- but not as she is now, because trees and many animals had not yet been made.
Well, the young woman, the daughter, took her basket out one day to go berry-picking. She had gathered enough and was returning home when a sudden puff of wind lifted her doeskin up high, baring her body. Geesis, the sun, shone on that spot for a short moment and entered the body of the young woman, though she hardly noticed it. She was aware of the puff of wind but paid no attention.
Time passed. The young woman said to the old one: "I don't know what's wrong with me, but something is different about me." More time passed. The young woman's belly grew bigger, and she said: "Something is moving inside me. What can it be?"
"When you were going berry-picking, did you meet anyone?" The old woman asked.
"I met nobody. The only thing that happened was a big gust of wind which lifted my dress. The sun was shining."
The old woman said: "I think you're going to have a child. Geesis, the sun, is the only one who could have done it, so you will be the mother of a sun child."
The young woman gave birth to two boys, both manitos (gods). They were the first human males on this earth –- Geesis's sons, sons of the sun.
The young mother made cradle-boards and put the twins in these, hanging them up or carrying them on her back, but never letting the babies touch the earth. Why didn't she? Did the Old Woman tell her not to? Nobody knows. If she had put the cradle-boards on the ground, the babies would have walked upright from the moment of their birth, like deer babies. but because their mother would not let them touch earth for some months, it now takes human babies a year or so to walk. It was that young woman's fault.
One of the twins was Stone Boy, a rock. He said: "Put me in the fire and heat me up until I glow red hot." They did, and he said: "Now pour cold water over me." They did this also. That was the first sweat bath. The other boy, named Wenabozho, looked like all human boys. He became mighty and could do anything; he even talked to the animals and gave them their names.

I think Wenabozho, has been playing with you.

So you are glad with such tales; but the Quran of God you call it myth.
You are like one who lied then believed his lies.

 

[eanassir]

Are there dandelions on Mars?

The meteorites that carried life to our Earth came from four torn up planets belonging to the past solar system that was destroyed in the previous Doomsday.

Each meteorite fell in one part of the Earth, then the seeds and branches of trees started to grow and fill the Earth.

Therefore, I think the plants on Mars and the rest of the planets are similar to those of our Earth with some differences, like the difference of the plants of Australia and many other parts of the world. And like that some plants have predilection to some hot or cold regions. And some plants are specific for some countries like the date palm in the Arab countries (and some countries with similar climate like California)

 

[eanassir]

I think if I was a god and had someone write a book for me, I'd make the author live for a few hundred years so they could explain what they wrote in the book. It'd save people from confusion as to what was said in it. I'd also be really tempted to pull a few tricks on humans and tell the author to write stuff that would play jokes on humans; such as telling the author to say that the universe flies around Sol, our sun. lmao

Man cannot believe unless God wants to guide him; but if God does not like to guide anyman, no one can guide him.

This is in the Quran 10: 97-98

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ حَقَّتْ عَلَيْهِمْ كَلِمَتُ رَبِّكَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ . وَلَوْ جَاءتْهُمْ كُلُّ آيَةٍ حَتَّى يَرَوُاْ الْعَذَابَ الأَلِيمَ​

The explanation:
(Surely, those against whom God’s word is pronounced will not believe,
Eventhough there comes to them every miracle, till they see the grievous chastisement.)

The interpretation:
(Surely, those) polytheists and associaters (against whom God’s word) concerning their punishment (is pronounced will not believe, even though there come to them every miracle) means: every miracle which they demand from you (till they see the grievous chastisement) in this World by their killing and falling into captivity, and in the afterlife in the chastisement of Hell.​

 

[eanassir]

Jesus lives on Mars in a bunker with Mohammed, Ganesh, Ron Hubbard & Hitler apparently.

Jesus and Mohammed live in the kingdom of God: the ethereal paradises in the neighborhood of God Most Gracious.

While their enemies who denied them will be the servants of Satan and will not go to Paradise in Heaven.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

But where it is mentioned in the Quran that the earth is spread out?

All you need is a searchable text of the Quran, have read it at least once to know generally the kinds of claims it makes, and the knowledge of what words to search for. Allah's spreading of the earth is mentioned in 13:3, 15:9, 50:7, 51:48, 79:30, 88:20, and 91:6. Told you it was repetitive.

And where is the claim that the sun rotates around the earth?

The motions of the sun around the earth are mentioned in 13:2, 18:86, 21:33, 35:13, and 36:40.

And now I expect you will want to look up each one of those and make a very long post explaining why they don't mean what they plainly say. Don't waste your time on that. Nobody will read it.

 

[L Gilbert]

Holy crap!! Eannasir's back. I thought he'd found Jesus. And still regurgitating nonsense out of some clown's version of the Koran, too. I'm tickled.

 

[L Gilbert]

So you are glad with such tales; but the Quran of God you call it myth.
You are like one who lied then believed his lies.

You poor sap. You have no idea what you are getting yourself into with comments like that.

 

[L Gilbert]

The meteorites that carried life to our Earth came from four torn up planets belonging to the past solar system that was destroyed in the previous Doomsday.

Each meteorite fell in one part of the Earth, then the seeds and branches of trees started to grow and fill the Earth.

Therefore, I think the plants on Mars and the rest of the planets are similar to those of our Earth with some differences, like the difference of the plants of Australia and many other parts of the world. And like that some plants have predilection to some hot or cold regions. And some plants are specific for some countries like the date palm in the Arab countries (and some countries with similar climate like California)

You haven't changed a bit. Still fantasizing.

 

[#juan]

quoting eanassir
The meteorites that carried life to our Earth came from four torn up planets belonging to the past solar system that was destroyed in the previous Doomsday.

Each meteorite fell in one part of the Earth, then the seeds and branches of trees started to grow and fill the Earth.

A great, dreamy, theory, but the fossil record doesn't support it. Every animal on Earth including man and microbes, and plants evolved on this planet.

A Timeline of Evolution

plant evolution timeline - Google Images