Neil Young blasts Harper government for allowing development of Alberta oilsands

petros

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They cut the pecker poles for asswipe. And your idea of unsustainable logging with silviculture out the ying yang doesn't add up.
 

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They cut the pecker poles for asswipe. And your idea of unsustainable logging with silviculture out the ying yang doesn't add up.
That's because you haven't been in the forest. Half the contracts we did back then were replants because the original contracts went to the lowest bidders who couldn't make any money planting to code.
 

petros

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35 years ago Cliffy? It's time you went on a reality road trip. The tree planted are 25 year to harvest. 10 years after you decided getting baked was a better lifestyle silviculture was heavily revamped with fines out the ying yang for piss poor planting practises.

The trees are ready to go. Will you complain all over again that whitie is raping the forest?

In SK it's the "keepers of the earth" not whitie who are the largest logging company who have no problems harvesting 25 year old white spruce, fir and pine for nice straight 2X6s and plywood.
 

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35 years ago Cliffy? It's time you went on a reality road trip. The tree planted are 25 year to harvest. 10 years after you decided getting baked was a better lifestyle silviculture was heavily revamped with fines out the ying yang for piss poor planting practises.
No, I can show you a huge clearcut just south of town, within plain sight of town, that was logged 20 - 25 years ago that is brown to this day. Nothing will grow on it not even grass. Now that Forest Ministry has been gutted (by Gordo), the fox is in charge of the hen house. There is very little over sight.
 

petros

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Show me. Whip out your camera. How come SK can have a sustainable forest industry but BC can't?

60% rainforest frog content and all.

NorSask forestry is owned by Medaow Lake Tribal Council. The trees they successfully harvest and replant successfully are directly across the border from the oil sands where apparently Chips are dieing and starving.

The Meadow Lake Tribal Council being the keepers of the earth that they are, just put my buddy through pipefitting school so he can go rape and pillage the vast SK oil resources.

http://uamember.uacanada.ca/ua-news/training-the-next-generation-of-saskatchewans-builders/

My buddy is a member of Gordon FN.
 
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That's because you haven't been in the forest. Half the contracts we did back then were replants because the original contracts went to the lowest bidders who couldn't make any money planting to code.
So you got paid to fix it . How are your replants working ?

No, I can show you a huge clearcut just south of town, within plain sight of town, that was logged 20 - 25 years ago that is brown to this day. Nothing will grow on it not even grass. Now that Forest Ministry has been gutted (by Gordo), the fox is in charge of the hen house. There is very little over sight.
Is that clear cut called Nelson ?
 

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Show me. Whip out your camera. How come SK can have a sustainable forest industry but BC can't?

60% rainforest frog content and all.

NorSask forestry is owned by Medaow Lake Tribal Council. The trees they successfully harvest and replant successfully are directly across the border from the oil sands where apparently Chips are dieing and starving.

The Meadow Lake Tribal Council being the keepers of the earth that they are, just put my buddy through pipefitting school so he can go rape and pillage the vast SK oil resources.

Training the next generation of Saskatchewan's buildersUA Members

My buddy is a member of Gordon FN.

We can't have a sustainable forest industry because they keep taking high productive land out of the forest base for parks and subdivisions therefore making our harvesting unsustainable.
 

petros

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Why don't they build refineries at the oil sands. The area has already been devastated.

You need to start watching TV. Even Greenpeace is happy with the reclamation.


Devastated? Is that what you saw with your own eyes? What did you think of the pickerel the starving Indians are pulling from the now toxin free lakes?

When you were there you never saw the refineries? Wow, they tuck in nicely in the reclaimed boreal if you never noticed. Why don,t you want one locally? They could build it in that clear cut you were bragging about earlier and use their Greenpeace approved reclamation team to plant trees to hide it like up at Albion.

We can't have a sustainable forest industry because they keep taking high productive land out of the forest base for parks and subdivisions therefore making our harvesting unsustainable.


Parks are collateral. Must be for loans to hand over to TransLink or fund those million dollar a year to maintain flower boxes on hwy 99 up to Whistler or pay down some of the expo 86 debt that still looms over the taxpayers heads.

http://www.golder.ca/en/uploads/newsletters/article/image-124.jpg
http://www.syncrude.ca/users/Folder...D61}/reclamation_south_bison_hills_aerial.jpg


Former oil sands mine.

Why can't you BC flunkies do that?

Not so devastated is it?
 

taxslave

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You need to start watching TV. Even Greenpeace is happy with the reclamation.


Devastated? Is that what you saw with your own eyes? What did you think of the pickerel the starving Indians are pulling from the now toxin free lakes?

When you were there you never saw the refineries? Wow, they tuck in nicely in the reclaimed boreal if you never noticed. Why don,t you want one locally? They could build it in that clear cut you were bragging about earlier and use their Greenpeace approved reclamation team to plant trees to hide it like up at Albion.




Parks are collateral. Must be for loans to hand over to TransLink or fund those million dollar a year to maintain flower boxes on hwy 99 up to Whistler or pay down some of the expo 86 debt that still looms over the taxpayers heads.

http://www.golder.ca/en/uploads/newsletters/article/image-124.jpg
http://www.syncrude.ca/users/Folder...D61}/reclamation_south_bison_hills_aerial.jpg


Former oil sands mine.

Why can't you BC flunkies do that?

Not so devastated is it?
The only devastation ib BC is to the economy by those that don't want us to make good money.Except for governmentbemployees of course.
 

petros

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The only devastation ib BC is to the economy by those that don't want us to make good money.Except for governmentbemployees of course.

soon the BC prairies will be filling Provincial coffers with cash from good old fashioned frakked shale nat gas.

Thank God BC has Prairie huh?

Nice BC canola growing on the BC prairie. Looks as good as what I grow.



I hope those are solar powered jack pumps in that BC canola on the BC prairies.

F-cking BCers and their oil devastating the landscape.
 

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Oil industry calls critics 'trash talkers'

Two of Calgary’s most prominent oil executives delivered a scathing rebuttal to celebrity critics such as rock star Neil Young, as the industry attempts to win support for pipeline projects that are essential to its ambitious growth plans for the oil sands.

Cenovus Energy Inc. chief executive Brian Ferguson and TransCanada Corp. chair Russ Girling brought an aggressive message to a joint presentation at Toronto’s Canadian Club, in which they defended the country’s current approach to environmental protection and resource development.

Their appearance came just three days after Mr. Young launched a cross-country “Honour the Treaties” concert tour with a press conference that slammed the oil-sands development as an environmental catastrophe, ruinous to the health of local populations and an abrogation of treaty commitments.

Without specifically mentioning the singer, Mr. Ferguson said celebrities have been “trash-talking” Canada’s oil industry.

“In Hollywood, the land of make-believe, everything is black and white, good and evil,” he said. “Hollywood stereotypes are unhelpful and, in many instances, just simply dead wrong.”

More than just a slagging match, the battle between the oil industry and environmentalists could determine the pace of growth in the oil sands.

The oil sands sector is the largest construction site in the country but also the fastest-growing source of greenhouse-gas emissions.

Cenovus’s growth plan shows what is at stake as opponents target proposed pipelines to the U.S. Gulf Coast, to the West Coast in British Columbia and to the East Coast in New Brunswick. The company, with its partners, expects to produce 400,000 barrels per day of crude this year, and to increase that to 1 million barrels per day by 2023.

“If there were no more pipeline expansions, I would have to slow down,” the Cenovus executive told The Globe and Mail’s editorial board.

He said he remains optimistic that TransCanada and other pipeline companies can win public support for projects by demonstrating their safety and debunking what they characterize as misinformation from their critics.

Mr. Ferguson told the business audience that because of Canada’s large oil production business, “special interest groups” have accused Canadians of being lax on the environment, with weak morals and soft laws.

“Canadians should be outraged by these allegations,” he said.

But environmentalists say Mr. Young’s message was right on target. “By going full speed ahead in the tar sands, we are failing to honour our treaties with First Nations and failing to honour the unwritten agreement to leave our kids a healthier planet than the one we inherited from our parents,” Greenpeace campaigner Keith Stewart said Wednesday.

Mr. Girling said his company is trying to take a more pro-active stance in dealing with concerns over the $12-billion Energy East Pipeline, which would carry crude to Eastern Canada. Ontario will get 2,000 construction jobs, he said, as well as $10-billion in economic gains and $3-billion in new taxes, though the construction jobs are temporary and the benefits accrue over 40 years.

While the executives extolled the benefits and safety of pipelines, they also said rail will continue to be an important mode of transport, even if all pipelines are built.

Cenovus has leased 825 new rail cars, which will feature safety standards absent from much of the current rolling stock. The company will eventually be able to move up to 30,000 barrels a day by rail.

Still, Mr. Ferguson said rail is really just a complement to pipelines, which will move far more oil over the long term.

Mr. Girling said TransCanada will consider building a rail facility at Hardisty, Alberta – the terminal point for the Keystone XL Pipeline – if Keystone is not built. “If our customers want us to do that, we would put a rail terminal there,” he said.

Oil industry rebuts ‘trash-talking’ celebrity critics - The Globe and Mail
 

petros

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Just like years ago when all the tree huggers on the west coast forgot what they used to wipe their A$$.
or drink their starbucks out of.

Then there is the fertilizers and chems that cause algae blooms from their indoor weed that guzzles hydro.