Muslim flight attendant says she was suspended for refusing to serve alcohol

EagleSmack

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When someone applies for a job, they are usually informed of their duties. If there is some part of the duties that they refuse to do, they should withdraw their application. However if you accept the job you convey to the employer that you will do it completely. She was fine while others did that part of HER job, in other words respect ME but you infidels must do what I do not wish to perform. To me that is plain disrespect for her fellow attendants.


Yeah but... tolerance and such.
 

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If you apply for a job and the job entails things you don't like then find another job.
She should have been fired and the woman who refused to marry gays in a public
position the government says is legal she should be fired.
Why the hell should others do your job because of some religious or self approval
required? We don't live in a religious state it is a secular state do your job
 

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Humanity has 3 banes; greed, politics, and religions.
Can I come?
All or nothing I hear. Two of them are pretty clear on 'who' they are' That would mean the 'odd-man out' would be the other one who is given a 'murky' name, in this case 'greed' would be made to appear less important so in a would built on bull**** it would probably. If that term was expanded on that would be what is the part that needs the most attention which in an 'upside down world to this one' would put it at the head of the list rather than the tail-end.

If you apply for a job and the job entails things you don't like then find another job.
She should have been fired and the woman who refused to marry gays in a public
position the government says is legal she should be fired.
Why the hell should others do your job because of some religious or self approval
required? We don't live in a religious state it is a secular state do your job
How about you don't apply for a job that has things you would not be able to handle rather than getting the job and then finding out what it would require of you.

I would put her in charge of the 'crew's coffee pot' that everybody is drinking lots of.
 

EagleSmack

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If you apply for a job and the job entails things you don't like then find another job.
She should have been fired and the woman who refused to marry gays in a public
position the government says is legal she should be fired.
Why the hell should others do your job because of some religious or self approval
required? We don't live in a religious state it is a secular state do your job


And this is the Canadian Left? lmao

How about you don't apply for a job that has things you would not be able to handle rather than getting the job and then finding out what it would require of you.


huh?
 

MHz

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Like in does it have a 'change of faith' clause for after the day she signed that she would complete all her stated duties as required?

More coffee? 2nd time today he's dozed off despite 3 pots of coffee in 3 hours. WTF??? Who's driving this ship???
 

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MHz

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You really deserve 5 green for that post.
A fermenting apple a day is better than a doctor a day. (more cider with that salad?)
 

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Muslim flight attendant says she was suspended for refusing to serve alcohol



A Muslim flight attendant says she was suspended by ExpressJet for refusing to serve alcohol in accordance with her Islamic faith.

In a bid to get her job back, Charee Stanley filed a discrimination complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission on Tuesday for the revocation of a reasonable religious accommodation.

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She wants to do her job without serving alcohol in accordance with her Islamic faith -- just as she was doing before her suspension, her lawyer said.

"What this case comes down to is no one should have to choose between their career and religion and it's incumbent upon employers to provide a safe environment where employees can feel they can practice their religion freely," said Lena Masri, an attorney with Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Stanley, 40, started working for ExpressJet nearly three years ago. About two years ago she converted to Islam. This year she learned her faith prohibits her from not only consuming alcohol but serving it, too, Masri said.

She approached her supervisor on June 1 and was told to work out an arrangement for someone to fulfill passenger requests for alcohol.

"It was at the direction of the airlines that she began coordinating with the other flight attendant on duty so that when a passenger requested alcohol, the other flight attendant would accommodate that request," Masri said. "We know that this arrangement has worked beautifully and without incident and that it hasn't caused any undue burden on the airline. After all, it was the suggestion of the airline."

Flight attendants complained about 'menacing' images on aircraft

It seemed to be working out until another flight attendant filed a complaint against Stanley on August 2 claiming she was not fulfilling her duties by refusing to serve alcohol, Masri said. The employee complaint also said Stanley had a book with "foreign writings" and wore a headdress.

On August 25, the airline sent a letter to Stanley informing her that it was revoking its religious accommodation to exclude her from service of alcohol and placing her on administrative leave.

"They placed her on unpaid leave and they advised her that her employment may be terminated after 12 months," Masri said. "We are requesting that her employment be reinstated and the accommodation of her religious beliefs be reinstated as well."

A spokesman for ExpressJet declined to discuss Stanley's complaint.

"At ExpressJet, we embrace and respect the values of all of our team members. We are an equal opportunity employer with a long history of diversity in our workforce. As Ms. Stanley is an employee, we are not able to comment on her personnel matters," spokesman Jarek Beem said in an email.

source: Muslim flight attendent claims discrimination - CNN.com

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So what's the difference between a Muslim suing the airline for not serving alcohol over religious rights and Kim Davis in Kentucky not marrying samesex couples as part of her religious right?

I think both should be fired. If you accept a job for what it is, you do what you took on and get paid for.
Also, I think the moslem headgear is an insult to womanhood because it is a sign of submission and no airline should have to cope with someone out to make a political statement by her appearance. Western women fought hard for equality and quality of life. These religious mavericks are just too happy with the infidel dough they bring home.
 

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The values have been distorted with you, so that the correct has become wrong and the wrong has become correct in your sight, and the common thing of all these is the opposition of God's commandments in all the heavenly religions.

Drinking alcohol has become right, while it is prohibited in the Law or the Torah, and the Quran. And the homosexuality which is the most disgusting thing and forbidden in all heavenly religions has become the correct in your sight.

Quran 5: 68
{ 68. Say: "People of the Bible [: Jews and Christians], you rest on no [sound religion] until you 'correct and observe' the Torah and the Gospel a and [the rules and duties in the original Torah and the original Gospel b] that were revealed to you from your Lord."
But [their dispraise c] that has been revealed to you [Mohammed, in the Quran] from your Lord will surely increase much many of them in arrogance d and unbelief e; so grieve not for a people who are unbelievers [neither in the Quran, nor in you.]}
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a i.e. until Jews correct the Torah, and Christians correct the Gospel; i.e. to correct what they changed and altered in both of the Torah and the Gospel.
b Including the belief in the Seal of prophets: Mohammed, son of Abdullah.
c And the correction of their mistakes.
d About you.
e In your Book.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/index.htm#Quran_interpretation
Of course any of that only applies to those who choose to believe in utter bullcrap. Your problem is assuming the words of some non-existent deity carry any weight for anyone capable of free, critical thought.
 

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When you have a job aren't you supposed to do what the boss is paying you to do as long as it's safe and legal?
 

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I think both should be fired. If you accept a job for what it is, you do what you took on and get paid for.
Also, I think the moslem headgear is an insult to womanhood because it is a sign of submission and no airline should have to cope with someone out to make a political statement by her appearance. Western women fought hard for equality and quality of life. These religious mavericks are just too happy with the infidel dough they bring home.





They are both born agains, one Christian and one Muslim and are trying to change the workplaces to suit their new found


What if next year they change religions again?


I hold them both accountable for continuing the sky fairy hoax..........




Perhaps it’s not surprising that, while Kim Davis is sitting in a Kentucky jail, we’re hearing another story of someone requesting religious accommodations at work.

Charee Stanley is a flight attendant for ExpressJet Airlines. She became a Muslim a year after accepting the job and now believes she should be able to get out of serving drinks to passengers because it goes against her faith.

The arguments in Stanley’s defense are no different than the ones in Davis’ case. Hell, Stanley’s attorney, who works with the Council on American-Islamic Relations, seems to be ripping pages right out of the Liberty Counsel playbook:

What this case comes down to is no one should have to choose between their career and religion and it’s incumbent upon employers to provide a safe environment where employees can feel they can practice their religion freely,” said Lena Masri, an attorney with Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.



http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/137382-setting-example-4.html?highlight=davis
 

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But the only reason he wanted to buy the condoms was because it's his daughter's birthday tomorrow, the balloons are way too expensive, and the condoms are on sale at bargain prices. He figured he could blow those up instead and draw happy faces on them with a marker.

Now you tell me how that conflicts with Catholic teachings, and I'll accept nothing less than a direct quote from the Gospel tank you.
 

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But the only reason he wanted to buy the condoms was because it's his daughter's birthday tomorrow, the balloons are way too expensive, and the condoms are on sale at bargain prices. He figured he could blow those up instead and draw happy faces on them with a marker.

Now you tell me how that conflicts with Catholic teachings, and I'll accept nothing less than a direct quote from the Gospel tank you.
Those crazy Catholics. They're just confused Hebrews.