Michael Coren interview: Why he believes Christianity is the most abused faith on Ear

Agree that Christianity is targeted more so than other religions -


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Goober

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And I like living in secular Canada.

That's your opinion.

What was Christianity like 6 centuries ago?

Check when Saudi outlawed Slavery - Check when a number of young girls burned to death because the religious Police (Saudi) would not let them be rescued as they were not properly attired.
How long before they catch up - Next Millenia? And I am not slagging you - Just that Islam seems to be regressing along Religious lines- The majority against the minority - and Christians happen to be a fair target for all.
Look to Nigeria- Give it time and the probability it will split along religious lines- Much like Sudan.

The same could happen in Iraq with the Kurds.
Egypt - 10 % of the population Coptic Christians - They have been persecuted for decade after decade.

Oh yes - off topic but I believe there is 1 Jew left in Afghanistan -
 

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You can't trust Coren to utter a true word as he is only interested in his financial gain and he does it by spouting off idiotic stuff like this.
If he is right or wrong is strictly a manifestation of your own religious beliefs as he does not trade on facts or philosophy but emotion and conjecture. He is the Don Cherry of Christianity.
 

L Gilbert

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Straw man argument
It's not an argument. It's a question. The little ? at the end of it is the clue.

I'm not excusing Islam, it's just that I can't see how Christianity has any room to whine considering its past.

There's that too.

But it's inescapable, Canon law, is a strong component of western legal culture.

That legal culture is the one that has given us our freedoms.

Just sayin'.
Oh, I know that most of our law was based upon some Christian morals. But people tend to like the separation of church and state. It's one of the reasons people migrated to North America in the first place.

Check when Saudi outlawed Slavery - Check when a number of young girls burned to death because the religious Police (Saudi) would not let them be rescued as they were not properly attired.
How long before they catch up - Next Millenia?[/quopte]Who knows? I don't make predictions without loads of data.
And I am not slagging you - Just that Islam seems to be regressing along Religious lines- The majority against the minority - and Christians happen to be a fair target for all.
Look to Nigeria- Give it time and the probability it will split along religious lines- Much like Sudan.
And in my POV, Muslims seem to be starting to reject the parts of Islam that's kept them oppressed. That's not regressive, IMO.

The same could happen in Iraq with the Kurds.
Egypt - 10 % of the population Coptic Christians - They have been persecuted for decade after decade.

Oh yes - off topic but I believe there is 1 Jew left in Afghanistan -
You may be right.

Either way, I still see plenty of Muslim bashing as well as Christian bashing.
 

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But people tend to like the separation of church and state. It's one of the reasons people migrated to North America in the first place.
I'm well aware of that. I never said anything to the contrary.

I still appreciate living in Christian based Canada.
 

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Check when Saudi outlawed Slavery - Check when a number of young girls burned to death because the religious Police (Saudi) would not let them be rescued as they were not properly attired.
How long before they catch up - Next Millenia? And I am not slagging you - Just that Islam seems to be regressing along Religious lines- The majority against the minority - and Christians happen to be a fair target for all.
Look to Nigeria- Give it time and the probability it will split along religious lines- Much like Sudan.

The same could happen in Iraq with the Kurds.
Egypt - 10 % of the population Coptic Christians - They have been persecuted for decade after decade.

Oh yes - off topic but I believe there is 1 Jew left in Afghanistan -


Tell me, when was the last time Canadian Muslims did any of that?

It's not an argument. It's a question. The little ? at the end of it is the clue.


The question is the start of a strawman argument. It matters not what was going on 6 centuries ago.
 

gerryh

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Any of what?


forget it... not interested in playing word games today... not in the mood for it.



Goober brought up things happening in other countries...I asked when was the last time Muslims in Canada did any of the bullshyte the muslim haters keep bringing up.
 

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The question is the start of a strawman argument. It matters not what was going on 6 centuries ago.
lol I dropped it after I posted the question. I wasn't really expecting an answer to the question anyway. You're the one that keeps dragging it along.

I stick to my opinion that Christianity is no more maligned than Islam.
Both are aggressive and based upon nothing but a weak supposition so I really don't care much about what each do.
 

CDNBear

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Congrats. I'll stick to the secular part. :)
Which part is that?

forget it... not interested in playing word games today... not in the mood for it.
I wasn't attempting to play word games. It was an honest question, looking for clarification.

Because we've had honour killings in Canada.

I stick to my opinion that Christianity is no more maligned than Islam.
I actually agree. Only one gets defended and is protected by UN declaration, and the Canadian HRC's.
 

CDNBear

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and not just by Muslims.
I agree, although a quick Googling didn't produce any right away.

But you asked "Tell me, when was the last time Canadian Muslims did any of that? "

From what I can tell, there have been 13 such insistences in Canada, since 2002. One was more than enough IMHO.
 

gerryh

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and from what I can see, some of those murders could just as easily be considered domestic violence.
 

CDNBear

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and from what I can see, some of those murders could just as easily be considered domestic violence.
I would go so far as to say they all are.

I read an interesting article on the matter, that touched on the fact that they could be caused by personality disorder. As apposed to any religious or cultural foundation. That said though, the defence is usually based on the latter two because Canada's cultural sensitivity, softens sentencing. Thus giving the false perception that the religion in question prescribes it.
 

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" The Lies They Spread About Christianity, his 14th book, he writes that Christianity has become the most abused faith on Earth."

To say nothing of having to write 14 books and still not have the message out is an abuse that pays $$, abuse of his readers IMO.
He probably doesn't even believe half of what was in his 1st book and if it has changed much he shouldn't be allowed to write without offering a refund if his view changes.
 

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" The Lies They Spread About Christianity, his 14th book, he writes that Christianity has become the most abused faith on Earth."

To say nothing of having to write 14 books and still not have the message out is an abuse that pays $$, abuse of his readers IMO.
He probably doesn't even believe half of what was in his 1st book and if it has changed much he shouldn't be allowed to write without offering a refund if his view changes.
With all due disrespect, you are one of the reasons people have such a poor perception of Christianity.
 

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I stick to my opinion that Christianity is no more maligned than Islam.
Both are aggressive and based upon nothing but a weak supposition so I really don't care much about what each do.
When was the last time you ever heard the term 'false christian' in any media form? (even radical or something that is equal to a 'blind jew' or a 'terrorist muslin') Most likely never, so we do keep our dirty laundry hidden when exposing it for what it is would be the correct way of handling the situation.

A religion that has parts that need fixing and doesn't fix them is as bad as it can get so that moves us to being the worst.
 

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Using an extreme as a baseline? oooooooooo k

<shrug> If you consider French people wanting to preserve French culture in France as maligning Muslims, then we could lower the bar to that level if you want. I suspect that would do more to reinforce Coren's theory than refute it. It does work both ways, you realize.

lol You brought up the "recent" "rule". It ain't mine. Recent is relative.

No, I didn't.....from the OP:

He sees the world around him becoming dangerously intolerant of Christianity.

he writes that Christianity has become the most abused faith on Earth

Christianity is the main, central, most common, and most thoroughly and purposefully marginalized, obscured, and publicly and privately mis-represented belief system in the final decades of the twentieth century and the opening years of the twenty-first century.

I think it'd be pretty hard to separate a Muslim from his/her religion, so in a sense, if a Muslim is maligned, it's at least apparent to that Muslim and other Muslims that it must be because of Islam.
Ever notice all the anti-Islam crap in the States?

"But this year, there is a special new effort to mobilize French Muslims to speak up at the ballot box in Sunday's presidential race — amid a surge of Islam-bashing among the French right." I am not sure about you but "bashing" can be seen as maligning, IMO.

Sure, if you define standing up against "screw the French culture in France" as bashing, then you're absolutely right. But again, I remind you, it works both ways.....are you sure you want to set the bar that low? :)