Mars is inhabited.

[Dexter Sinister]

Those are not facts...

Yes they are, but apparently you'd rather cling to invalid and ignorant arguments from religious authority than pay attention to reality. Mercury, Venus, and the moon, all rotate on their axes. Those are directly observable facts. You're simply wrong, you don't understand what you're talking about.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

If it was true that all the Mars surface with this freezing temperatures, why won't all the planet surface be covered with ice...

Hard to believe you actually have to ask that. Think it might have something to do with the volume of water vapour available on Mars, or the atmospheric circulation patterns, or temperature and pressure gradients? Do you have any clue what you're talking about? Doesn't look like it.

 

[eanassir]

Think it might have something to do with the volume of water vapour available on Mars, or the atmospheric circulation patterns, or temperature and pressure gradients?

This is some affectation [if my expression is correct], and such supposition is not realistic.

I say: Mars is full of water in all forms: vapor, liquid and ice in ample amounts, and there is water cycle indicated by the presence of the polar ice caps and mountain tops ice and the cloud; why not other forms of water are also present, but not yet discovered?

Till now they try to interpret some images taken from high altitudes and by magnifying them, but till now there is no precise images with enough resolution, and this may take place in the near future; but now by interpreting the available data, life to them may not yet be proved but none can say there isn't; to me I believe there is intelligent life in the form of people, and other essential requirements of man: animals and plants, that are subjected to man's advantage.
​

The journey to Mars is successful​

 

[#juan]

Quoting eanasser
I say: Mars is full of water in all forms: vapor, liquid and ice in ample amounts, and there is water cycle indicated by the presence of the polar ice caps and mountain tops ice and the cloud; why not other forms of water are also present, but not yet discovered?

I'm going to make a guess that you don't know that it is possible to look a a complete map of the surface of Mars. There are no lakes, or rivers, or oceans. There are only the polar caps that are made up of both water ice and dry ice(CO2). You can say Mars is full of water in all forms but what facts do you base that on? What are "other forms of water"?

 

[eanassir]

I'm going to make a guess that you don't know that it is possible to look a a complete map of the surface of Mars. There are no lakes, or rivers, or oceans. There are only the polar caps that are made up of both water ice and dry ice(CO2). You can say Mars is full of water in all forms but what facts do you base that on? What are "other forms of water"?

The CO2 theory has been abandoned recently by the Phoenix team; because they said such CO2 ice needs far less temperatures. They now know for certain it is water ice.​

While concerning the maps of Mars see this map:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040904.html​

Where the blue color indicates the concentration of hydrogen to some depth below the surface. Do the blue regions in the middle belong to the polar caps?​

 

[Zzarchov]

That says there is hydrogen, the most common element in the universe, in central mars.

It does not say they know for certain the ice is water.

Read what you post.

 

[lone wolf]

Lookit the nice Martian couple having a picnic a quarter way across the horizon!

 

[eanassir]

That says there is hydrogen, the most common element in the universe, in central mars.

It does not say they know for certain the ice is water.

Read what you post.

The hydrogen in this map indicates the water: whether it is liquid or ice; so while no such ice as in the polar region, almost this indicates liquid water, although this has not yet been proved. Understand what you read.

 

[Zzarchov]

The hydrogen in this map indicates the water: whether it is liquid or ice; so while no such ice as in the polar region, almost this indicates liquid water, although this has not yet been proved. Understand what you read.

No, it does not. It says it MAY indicate water, its very clear in the article that this is just an indicator of hydrogen, a component of water (among many other things)

It most certainly does not indicate liquid water. Read it again, slowly and without trying to make it say what you want to hear.

 

[#juan]

This photo shows the Pathfinder vehicle near the big rock.

 

[eanassir]

No, it does not. It says it MAY indicate water, its very clear in the article that this is just an indicator of hydrogen, a component of water (among many other things)

It most certainly does not indicate liquid water. Read it again, slowly and without trying to make it say what you want to hear.

And what does the hydrogen do in the ground and earthy layer of Mars, and in this enormous areas and huge amounts, other than water (or petrol which is usually deep below the surface, and never in such extensive areas. ) While this map gives the hydrogen concentration in the superficial layer of the ground including only few feet below the ground.​

 

[#juan]

By eanassir:

Mars is inhabited[/QUOTE]

No it isn't.
Mars has almost no atmosphere (one percent the density of Earth's ) Mars has no magnetosphere, or ozone layer to deflect or dampen radiation. The temperature on Mars is at least -20 C even on the equator where night temperatures can reach -80 C . Mars' thin atmosphere is mainly CO2. While the Martian conditions might support some form of bacterial life, there is no chance of human, or animal life. Case closed.

 

[lone wolf]

...but we WILL compromise. Just leave a copy of your book and we'll do all we can to pull strings and get it packed with the next rover. That way ... Mohammed's words will be on Mars....

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I have concluded that eanassir is a troll. His purpose is not to discuss scientific issues, or the nature of reality, or epistemology, he's here to proselytize for Islam while pretending it has some scientific basis. I suggest nobody should ever respond to any of his "science" threads again, he should be ignored. He's scientifically completely illiterate, he has nothing useful or interesting to say about science, he's provably wrong in every empirical claim he's made, and thinks the Quran contains it all. You folks want to keep on arguing with his massive ignorance, go for it, but I'm withdrawing. He's hopeless, doesn't even understand enough to understand how wrong he is.

 

[Zzarchov]

And what does the hydrogen do in the ground and earthy layer of Mars, and in this enormous areas and huge amounts, other than water (or petrol which is usually deep below the surface, and never in such extensive areas. ) While this map gives the hydrogen concentration in the superficial layer of the ground including only few feet below the ground.​

Hydrogen is a VAST number of different chemical components besides water and hydrocarbons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hydrogen_compounds

Don't get me wrong, it COULD be water, water does contain hydrogen.

It would then be ice and could never turn to water because the atmosphere is practically a vacuum.


You still don't grasp that Mars is nothing like Earth, Venus is far more like earth and with enough altering (far beyond us) could be made habitable.

 

[#juan]

Hydrogen is a VAST number of different chemical components besides water and hydrocarbons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hydrogen_compounds

Don't get me wrong, it COULD be water, water does contain hydrogen.

It would then be ice and could never turn to water because the atmosphere is practically a vacuum.


You still don't grasp that Mars is nothing like Earth, Venus is far more like earth and with enough altering (far beyond us) could be made habitable.

Zzarchov

According to the NASA chart above, water makes up only 0.03 percent of the skimpy Martian atmosphere, so ice is not going to be found in great quanties no matter what eanassir
wants to say.

 

[eanassir]

By eanassir:

Mars is inhabited[/QUOTE]

No it isn't.
Mars has almost no atmosphere (one percent the density of Earth's ) Mars has no magnetosphere, or ozone layer to deflect or dampen radiation. The temperature on Mars is at least -20 C even on the equator where night temperatures can reach -80 C . Mars' thin atmosphere is mainly CO2. While the Martian conditions might support some form of bacterial life, there is no chance of human, or animal life. Case closed.

The case is not closed.

Consider these points:

The atmosphere of the Earth itself is not exactly known in every detail, particularly the upper atmospheric layers, and there is much ambiguity to its constituents and exact nature and extension.

The reason for this ambiguity is that it is difficult to reach to the high atmospheric layers unless by jet planes, rockets, shuttles which move at high speed, and the constituents and the other criteria are difficult to estimate exactly.

Instead they use balloons and other indirect methods like the refraction and reflection of light and light spectrography for this purpose.

This is about the atmosphere of the Earth; then what about the atmosphere of Mars; certainly it will be more difficult, and no one can assert anything of that with certainty.


eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[eanassir]

...but we WILL compromise. Just leave a copy of your book and we'll do all we can to pull strings and get it packed with the next rover. That way ... Mohammed's words will be on Mars....

The words of the God of Mohammed are there on Mars, to which you will see all the inhabitants of the planets, including Mars and Earth, obedient and submitting.

This of course will disprove the lies of many people that they are the people preferred to other people, and that Jesus is the essential part in the universe, but God only is the Creator, and all other Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Ali and others are only the servants of God. ​

 

[#juan]

eanassir

I sincerely hope others will join me, as I join Dexter in serving you notice that in our opinion, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Your statement that Mars is inhabited is just nonsense. The surface of Mars is a frigid desert with no water, no plant or animal life at all. Your arguments are childish in the extreme. I won't be joining your B.S. topics again. Good bye.

 

[eanassir]

Zzarchov

According to the NASA chart above, water makes up only 0.03 percent of the skimpy Martian atmosphere, so ice is not going to be found in great quanties no matter what eanassir
wants to say.

Compare the two polar caps of Mars with those of Earth, in the extent, and the seasonal variation.