Mars is inhabited.

[eanassir]

Just an idea:
I think we are more scientifically advanced than the people of Mars (it may be we outstrip them by about 500 years; Mars will stop rotating around itself 500 years following the earth.)

Therefore, in case the Martian are so civilized, and they are prepared to meet the people of Earth and understand they have come from another planet, it is OK.

But the people of Earth should beware of the consequences, and should go peacefully (but are they so good: such guilty and criminals of casting hydrogen bombs on the inhabitants of their own planet?)

What is in their minds: do they want to do mutual understanding of each other, or want to colonize there and occupy the land there?

The people of Venus almost have been exterminated because of the cessation of Venus from rotation, might have become more advanced, but had no opportunity to go to Earth: almost they were atheists and disbelievers and associaters; because Doomsday afflicts the evilest among the creation.
The journey to Venus is dangerous
The journey to Mars is successful
The emigration to Mars
An anticipated meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets


I have to go now, and hope to return some hours later, by God's will.

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[scratch]

Just an idea:
I think we are more scientifically advanced than the people of Mars (it may be we outstrip them by about 500 years; Mars will stop rotating around itself 500 years following the earth.)

Therefore, in case the Martian are so civilized, and they are prepared to meet the people of Earth and understand they have come from another planet, it is OK.

But the people of Earth should beware of the consequences, and should go peacefully (but are they so good: such guilty and criminals of casting hydrogen bombs on the inhabitants of their own planet?)

What is in their minds: do they want to do mutual understanding of each other, or want to colonize there and occupy the land there?

The people of Venus almost have been exterminated because of the cessation of Venus from rotation, might have become more advanced, but had no opportunity to go to Earth: almost they were atheists and disbelievers and associaters; because Doomsday afflicts the evilest among the creation.
The journey to Venus is dangerous
The journey to Mars is successful
The emigration to Mars
An anticipated meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets


I have to go now, and hope to return some hours later, by God's will.

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io​

By the way, the man in my avatar is not a pirate. He is an Iroquois warrior. Migarrah means man of great strength and heart.

 

[scratch]

I don't know when they will meet together: the people of the earth with the people of Mars and some other planets, but certainly it will be a historic event; it may be the pirate in your avatar will tell you :smile:

The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]

brainwash \brainwash\ v. [imp. & p. p. brainwashed; p. pr. &
vb. n. brainwashing]
1. to persuade completely; as, the propaganda brainwashed
many people.
[WordNet 1.5]

2. to to indoctrinate forcibly or by means of torture, or by
constant psychological pressure.

Syn: submit to brainwashing.
[WordNet 1.5]

WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]

brainwash
v 1: persuade completely, often through coercion; "The propaganda
brainwashed many people"
2: submit to brainwashing; indoctrinate forcibly

Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]

20 Moby Thesaurus words for "brainwash":
alienate, beat into, catechize, condition, corrupt,
counterindoctrinate, imbue, implant, impregnate, impress,
inculcate, indoctrinate, infix, infuse, inoculate, instill,
program, reindoctrinate, subvert, win away

Did you ever at anytime have free will? Have you ever had an original thought? Why would one submit to such a condition? Why would one portray one's self in such an illogical way? Do you know what self-esteem is? Do you know what it is to have self-worth? Why have you become a slave to writings that you had no part in? Do you feel that you belong believing what you believe?

This is beyond me in every way. I feel great sadness for you because you are a puppet and a pawn to your master.

 

[eanassir]

brainwash brainwashing.
I feel great sadness for you.

Don't be sad; this may indicate you are a good one; but the environment and the various propaganda and programs will certainly stamp its effect on you and everyone else.​

Shall I be sad for you, and what will you have at last? Or I shouldn't be sad for you; this is according to this aya in the Quran 18: 6​

فَلَعَلَّكَ بَاخِعٌ نَّفْسَكَ عَلَى آثَارِهِمْ إِن لَّمْ يُؤْمِنُوا بِهَذَا الْحَدِيثِ أَسَفًا​

The explanation: (Yet perchance, if they believe not in this tiding, you [Mohammed] will fret yourself to death of grief, following after their monuments.)​

The interpretation:
You [Mohammed] are feeling very sorry that you are about killing yourself with grief, because they sanctify the idols which are some monuments of the ancient, and because they did not listen to you when you advised them to abandon serving and worshipping the idols. ​

So they kept up on their idolatry, and you know this will lead them to Hell in the next world, and you feel very sorry and sad for them. ​

Don't be sorry and sad: God guides the one that deserves the guidance to prosper in Paradise, and does not guide another who deserves the misguidance in order to go to Hell.​

This is one of the marvelous ayat of this soorah of the Quran, called the soorah of the cave (chapter 18). Although you don't know Arabic, but may at least smell some of its fragrance in the translated meaning by Arberry or others in spite of that such translations are defective. ​

Or listen to the Arabic recital of the Quran (just reading without singing and tuning; and – in case your heart is pure – you may recognize the word of your God Most Gracious)​

 

[eanassir]

The late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible did not graduate at any school or college; he only knew reading and writing Arabic.

He said, 60 years ago, many things according to his inspired interpretation of the Quran:​

• Moon is devoid of water, air and life.
• Life has been exterminated on Venus, as had it been exterminated on Mercury before.
• Mars and many of the rest of the planets have water and intelligent human beings.

Till now they have not discovered such a life of Mars and some other planets; but even when we now tell many of people about such thing as life on Mars, they mock and does not accept that; and the reason is obvious: they refuse the Quran; because it is not what they have been grown to be familiar with.

Moreover, the Islamic countries are now in a miserable condition and deterioration; so they are proud over listening to the Quran; because they look in some superior way to Muslims; seeing these are retarded now.

But see when the Islamic scientists were teaching at Baghdad and Andalusian (now Spain) cities and universities, all of them imitated the Muslims in everything, even in their style of clothes, even their women sought after the mode of the clothes of Muslim women, but now they despise the Muslims, because they are in difficult situations, but later on when the things will turn, what will they say?

But the Quran is something else than Muslims and the Islamic countries; the Quran is the marvelous word of God; that all of them are responsible about studying it carefully to see what wisdom and knowledge the Quran includes. And this is a temptation for them, because the Quran is marvelous and true, while Muslims are deteriorated, so will they turn to God or to the alluring civilization?

Then when life on Mars and other planets will be discovered; will they then admit and believe? No, of course; not at all. Save the one that God may guide to realize that the Quran says the truth to which they have not reached with all their science and technology which God the All-Knowing has bestowed on them and taught them.


eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

 

[Zzarchov]

Uh, nobody copied the muslims because they had the Koran.

They copied the muslims because they had the Greek and Roman knowledge that many muslim countries had before they converted.

I should also point out, there is no "muslim" mode of dress, there is an Arab mode of dress, but I don't recall that ever being stated to be the "muslim" mode of dress.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Socrates the Greek, this was a very nice video.

However, there is much similarity between Earth and Mars.
This is one point: its liquefied hot core; and they have not yet discovered any active volcano eruption.
There may be some volcanoes but they have not yet discovered that, but volcanoes do not erupt always, even on our Earth. ​

However, there are some marks indicating some past volcanic activity on Mars.
http://science.nasa.gov/current/event/ast18feb99_1.htm ​

And see this nice article at our website:

The journey to Mars is successful​

Thank you great info.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Till now they have not discovered such a life of Mars and some other planets; but even when we now tell many of people about such thing as life on Mars, they mock and does not accept that; and the reason is obvious: they refuse the Quran; because it is not what they have been grown to be familiar with.​

Yes, the reason's obvious alright, but that isn't it. The reason is because there's not a shred of evidence to support such a claim, and plenty of evidence that argues strongly against it, as many people have tried to show you in this thread and others. But you're not paying attention, because it isn't what you want to believe.

And this is a temptation for them, because the Quran is marvelous and true, while Muslims are deteriorated, so will they turn to God or to the alluring civilization?

Ah, the standard fundamentalist calculation: Islam was once the high culture on the planet, the decline began when Islamic culture failed in its attempt to invade Europe from the south east. They were stopped at the gates of Vienna in 1683, and there then began the long decline of the Ottoman Empire and Islamic civilization generally. And the thinking now is that they lost because they allowed Western values to seep into their culture and Allah turned his back on them, so all they have to do is return to the old forms of Islam as originally prescribed and Allah will once again smile upon them and take care of everything else. That's Taliban thinking. And it's wrong. Every civilization in history has risen and fallen, and it has nothing to do with God or Allah or however one names him.
​

 

[eanassir]

Recording the sounds on Mars
This may be of a great advantage to record the sounds on Mars [this may reveal the scream of any bird or the cry of an animal or other natural sounds]; but they only have recorded the sound of the descent on Mars.

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/faq.php
"Does Phoenix have a microphone to “hear” the sounds of Mars?
Phoenix, like the 1999 Polar Lander, originally had a microphone to hear the sounds of the descent to Mars. It was part of the MARDI system which was turned off to due the small risk that it could trip a critical landing system. So far, no spacecraft has successfully captured the sounds of Mars. However, the European Space Agency’s orbiter Mars Express captured the sounds of Phoenix’s descent. You can check it out at: http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Operations/SEMAWQ1YUFF_1.html. If the mission timeline permits, it is a possibility that the microphone will be activated , so stay tuned!"​

 

[eanassir]

About the life on Mars, and the water there, see this image from NASA
http://fawkes1.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=118&cID=4​

Comment:
They say it is an ice lake; because – as do they imagine: liquid water is not present on Mars due to its alleged atmospheric pressure…etc – and that this ice is perpetual throughout the year.
I say: Will the ice be more on the tops or in the valleys? Then see in this image the contrary.
Moreover, why it is perpetual? While the ice in the polar region increase and decrease according to the season; then why doesn't this ! icy lake increase or decrease, and why doesn't the alleged sublimation occur here also, when it does happen on the polar region?
This is obviously a water lake, like those on our Earth, the ice is on the tops of these heights surrounding this depression, and the water is in the bottom of this crater.​

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[darkbeaver]

Speaking of fictions, the Quran seems to be a pretty good example. In what sense is anyone speaking in a way that is not proper about it? It stands or falls on its own merits, like any other book, and is not immune to criticism. If the citations you keep providing from it in support of your crackpot science are any indication, the Quran's merits are small.

Mars also has many differences from Earth, differences that render it inimical to any form of life we know of beyond the level of simple bacteria. You started this thread with the claim that Mars is inhabited, not merely by bacteria, but by large animals and plants, and have provided no evidence in support of that except religious texts, which have no scientific merit at all. Your claims are at best unsupported by any evidence science would recognize as legitimate, and at worst they're just stupid. You have completely failed to make your case, and you appear to be unable to grasp how utterly and totally you have failed. You're beating a dead horse; it isn't going to get up and run.

The Qurans merits are mirrored in man.:smile:

 

[L Gilbert]

Good grief, some folks are as dense as Iridium.
NASA said it only had discovered evidence of water of water there. It did NOT say it discovered water there.
Jeeez I wish people would pay attention to what they read.

 

[eanassir]

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080723.html​

I think this is a sea or an ocean with its beach (there has been some modification of the true colors): ​

See "the homogenous flat level of the sea surface" in lower part of the picture; ​

The border, where the water comes in contact with the cliff of the land, appears "whitish" as the waves smite the land like what happens on Earth.​

The land in the upper part of the picture appears green with some plant appearance. There may be other details of the land appearance, but not obviously clear.
http://universeandquran.site.io/new_page_2.htm#The_Journey_to_Mars_Is_Successful_​

To see some of their moderation of some images of Mars, see this link:

http://astronomer.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=MarsLife&action=display&thread=175​

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[eanassir]

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080723.html​

This indeed is a fascinating picture; if we enlarge this picture as much as we can before it becomes obscure, then with a magnifying lens; it may be that we see:​

At least two water falls in the middle causing turbulence of water in the sea below; with an acute ridge inbetween the two water falls.​

The one to the right is a river (of sweet water); because it gives different coloration (may be turbid with mud) before it mixes with the water of the sea.​

At the high flat land above, we may see some forests of high trees near the ridge.
This region may include some cities and buildings with flat roofs. ​

If we go to the road situated between the green region and the yellow region, there we see it may be a sort of a cart with dust behind it.​

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=16613&cID=187
And in this image [and using a magnifying lens], what do you notice, just before you, near the horizon ? (See the image itself without its download because the light of the sun may overwhelm some of the details)
There is a kind of a big barrel or cistern: cylindrical that rises above the ground, and it seems to be erected on a relatively thinner pillar. What is this, which I noticed in some of the neighboring images?​

I think the reality will be more surprising than the imagination. And there are people, in addition to animals, plant and rivers and seas on Mars.​

And see our link for more information:
http://universeandquran.site.io/#The_planets_Are_Inhabited_

http://universeandquran.site.io/new_page_2.htm#The_Journey_to_Mars_Is_Successful_

​

eanassir

http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Never going to give up, are you. Read the caption. There's no moving water in that picture, there's no road, no forest, no city, no buildings, no cart raising dust. You're imagining things. You haven't a clue how to interpret an image like that one, you see what you want to see.

 

[eanassir]

Never going to give up, are you. Read the caption. There's no moving water in that picture, there's no road, no forest, no city, no buildings, no cart raising dust. You're imagining things. You haven't a clue how to interpret an image like that one, you see what you want to see.

The atheism is neither any strength of mind nor even any goodness of heart.

And we all shall watch how you will get yourself from your wrong opinion and find some excuse for your insisting on non- scientific thinking, when things will proven in the near future, concerning the existence of people on Mars, and the plant, animal and abundant water.​

 

[Scott Free]

The atheism is neither any strength of mind nor even any goodness of heart.

I don't know about that. There aren't any atheists suicide bombers and in my book that makes them pretty "good."

 

[scratch]

I don't know about that. There aren't any atheists suicide bombers and in my book that makes them pretty "good."

I'll second that.

 

[eanassir]

I don't know about that. There aren't any atheists suicide bombers and in my book that makes them pretty "good."

Who said it is good?

Don't be like the man who lied then believed his lie.

This was Jeha: he was bothered by the children, so he told them there is a banquet in the next street where they will distribute sweets and candy, so they went running to the next street, then they saw some other children and told them about the alleged banquet, so all the children started to run toward the next street; then when Jeha saw that he said to himself: it may be there is a banquet there to which all the children are running, and he started to run with the runners.

I told you this for joking.​

 

[L Gilbert]

Who said it is good?​

You are saying that suicide bombing IS good?​

Don't be like the man who lied then believed his lie.

roflmao One could say that same thing to you.​

This was Jeha: he was bothered by the children, so he told them there is a banquet in the next street where they will distribute sweets and candy, so they went running to the next street, then they saw some other children and told them about the alleged banquet, so all the children started to run toward the next street; then when Jeha saw that he said to himself: it may be there is a banquet there to which all the children are running, and he started to run with the runners.

​

I told you this for joking.​

Seemed silly more than funny to me.