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How NASA Might Find Rock-Eating Microbes on Mars [Not People]

"Jarosite is a yellowish-brown sulfate mineral containing iron, potassium and hydroxide. It is found in places around the world such as southern California beaches and volcanic fields in New Zealand. It forms only in the presence of highly acidic water.
In 2004, jarosite was discovered on Mars by Opportunity, one of NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers. Scientists immediately heralded it as clear evidence for past water on the red planet.
But there is something else about jarosite that makes it interesting. One of the steps in its formation involves combining pyrite (ferrous sulfide) with oxygen. This oxidation reaction can be performed by certain "rock-eating" microorganisms."
 

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How NASA Might Find Rock-Eating Microbes on Mars [Not People]

"Jarosite is a yellowish-brown sulfate mineral containing iron, potassium and hydroxide. It is found in places around the world such as southern California beaches and volcanic fields in New Zealand. It forms only in the presence of highly acidic water.
In 2004, jarosite was discovered on Mars by Opportunity, one of NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers. Scientists immediately heralded it as clear evidence for past water on the red planet.
But there is something else about jarosite that makes it interesting. One of the steps in its formation involves combining pyrite (ferrous sulfide) with oxygen. This oxidation reaction can be performed by certain "rock-eating" microorganisms."

Iron is present in large amounts in the earth, as well as in the sun and in all the planets and in a large number of meteorites. Mars is not an exclusion, but the red color of Mars my not be due to its much iron, nor is the red color of Jupiter due to excess of this element.
 

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Iron is present in large amounts in the earth, as well as in the sun and in all the planets and in a large number of meteorites. Mars is not an exclusion, but the red color of Mars my not be due to its much iron, nor is the red color of Jupiter due to excess of this element.





Looking at the inner center of Mars it has liquefied mass yet we see no volcanic activity on the surface.

http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/marsmadness/
 
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Looking at the inner center of Mars it has liquefied mass yet we see no volcanic activity on the surface.

http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/marsmadness/

Socrates the Greek, this was a very nice video.

However, there is much similarity between Earth and Mars.
This is one point: its liquefied hot core; and they have not yet discovered any active volcano eruption.
There may be some volcanoes but they have not yet discovered that, but volcanoes do not erupt always, even on our Earth.


However, there are some marks indicating some past volcanic activity on Mars.
http://science.nasa.gov/current/event/ast18feb99_1.htm


And see this nice article at our website:
The journey to Mars is successful
 
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yes, there were past volcanoes on mars, thats well documented. The largest volcano in the solar system is on Mars.

Mars is well explored and its surface mapped Eanissir, mapped to the point you can zoom in an see if there would be any large scale life. There is not.
 

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yes, there were past volcanoes on mars, thats well documented. The largest volcano in the solar system is on Mars.

Mars is well explored and its surface mapped Eanissir, mapped to the point you can zoom in an see if there would be any large scale life. There is not.

Not to that extent; it is different from mapping the earth, for their military and other purposes; there is a big deal of mysterity about Mars; they doubt about many surface objects, and there is something wrong concerning their transmitting and interpreting the images.
 

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no, there isn't.

You want there to be, but there isn't.

I want Santa Claus to be real, he still isn't.
 

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no, there isn't.

You want there to be, but there isn't.

I want Santa Claus to be real, he still isn't.

Mars is like other obedient objects in the universe; it has nothing to do with me or you. If there is or there is not any people there on Mars, this is according to God's creation, not according to what I or you like or dislike.
 
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Mars is like other obedient objects in the universe; it has nothing to do with me or you. If there is or there is not any people there on Mars, this is according to God's creation, not according to what I or you like or dislike.

You have finally made a mistake.We are obedient objects in space as is Mars we have that in common it has very much to do with us. I can't believe you've made a wild unsupportable statement like that. The Martionians may in fact have dug in to the deeper parts of the planet long before thier atmosphere was stripped in the collision.;-)
 

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Mars is like other obedient objects in the universe; it has nothing to do with me or you. If there is or there is not any people there on Mars, this is according to God's creation, not according to what I or you like or dislike.


Exactly, and god didn't create people on mars, we know that because we can check.
 

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You have finally made a mistake.We are obedient objects in space as is Mars we have that in common it has very much to do with us. I can't believe you've made a wild unsupportable statement like that. The Martionians may in fact have dug in to the deeper parts of the planet long before thier atmosphere was stripped in the collision.;-)


>> Celestial objects like the sun, moon and the planets are subjected into service, and are obedient to the laws God inserted in the universe.

This is in the Quran 16: 12

وَسَخَّرَ لَكُمُ اللَّيْلَ وَالْنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ وَالْنُّجُومُ مُسَخَّرَاتٌ بِأَمْرِهِ إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَآيَاتٍ لِّقَوْمٍ يَعْقِلُونَ

The explanation: (And He has subjected for your [service] the night and the day, and sun and moon; and stars are subjected by His command; surely, this indicates signs to a people who understand.)

And there are many other ayat of the Quran speaking in the same meaning like this aya 36: 40

لَا الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِي لَهَا أَن تُدْرِكَ الْقَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيْلُ سَابِقُ النَّهَارِ وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ

The explanation: (It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, neither does the night outstrip the day; but each [of the sun, the moon and the earth] is swimming along into a [specific] orbit.)

So the objects are obedient to the physical law, animals are obedient to the instinct,

>> and man …man it is he who is the disobedient: he has been given the reason and intellectual property, but he is almost ungrateful to his Creator.

This is in the Quran 33: 72

إِنَّا عَرَضْنَا الْأَمَانَةَ عَلَى السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَالْجِبَالِ فَأَبَيْنَ أَن يَحْمِلْنَهَا وَأَشْفَقْنَ مِنْهَا وَحَمَلَهَا الْإِنسَانُ إِنَّهُ كَانَ ظَلُومًا جَهُولًا

The explanation: (We did expose the heavens and the earth and the mountains to [bear] the 'deposition in trust', and they refused to bear it and were afraid of it, but man has borne it; surely he is ever a wrong-doer and ignorant.)

The 'deposition in trust' here means the seed of life which He exposed the heavens and the earth and the mountains to bear, they were afraid of bearing it; but they obeyed their Lord and bore it by loath while they were unwilling.
While man bore the 'deposition in trust' which is the "monotheism", and man betrayed his 'deposition in trust', and associated idols and others with his Lord.
God commanded the prophets to command their peoples to this "monotheism" and take the covenant with them that they should not worship any other than God alone. And commanded the fathers to recommend to their sons the same covenant of the "monotheism"; because it is very serious that anyone without this "monotheism" will go to Hell.

This is in the Book of Deuteronomy, chapter 5: 1-21
"1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
5 (I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount saying,
6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
17 Thou shalt not kill.
18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
19 Neither shalt thou steal.
20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's."

And also in the Quran 2: 133

أَمْ كُنتُمْ شُهَدَاء إِذْ حَضَرَ يَعْقُوبَ الْمَوْتُ إِذْ قَالَ لِبَنِيهِ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ مِن بَعْدِي قَالُواْ نَعْبُدُ إِلَهَكَ وَإِلَهَ آبَائِكَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَقَ إِلَهًا وَاحِدًا وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ

The explanation: (Or were you present when death came to Jacob, when he said to his sons: 'What will you worship after me?' They said: 'We worship your God, the God of your fathers: Abraham and Ismael and Isaac; One God and to Him we have surrendered.')



>> If there had been any collision, do you think the Martian would have found any time to dig under the ground and hide so deep? ;-)
I don't think that there had been any collision of this kind, and God is the All-Knowing.
The atmosphere of Mars is not that thin; it bears the cirrus cloud at certain altitude and the wind drifting it like that on our Earth. The atmosphere of Mars also appears clear and not full of smoke and turbidity like that of Venus.


 
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Movie: War of the Worlds (1953)

Gene Barry, Ann Robinson & Les Tremayne Star in Sci-Fi Film Classic

© William J. Felchner
May 30, 2008


H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds hit movie theaters like a Martian invasion in 1953. Gene Barry played Dr. Clayton Forrester, with Ann Robinson as his terrified gal pal.
Earth experienced one of its most horrific cinematic invasions in director Byron Haskin's 1953 sci-fi movie classic, The War of the Worlds. Gene Barry, Ann Robinson and Les Tremayne had the starring roles, along with the movie's superlative, Oscar-winning special effects. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil...
Based on the Novel by H.G. Wells

The War of the Worlds was based on the 1898 novel of the same name by H.G. Wells (1866-1946). The book was first published in England by William Heinemann.
Screenplay, Director, Music

Barre Lyndon wrote the screenplay. Directing the action was Byron Haskin, who went on to direct the sci-fi films Conquest of Space (1955), From the Earth to the Moon (1958) and Robinson Crusoe on Mars (1964). The film's original music was created by Leith Stevens.
War of the Worlds Cast

A bespectacled Gene Barry starred as Dr. Clayton Forrester. Other cast members included a wig-wearing Ann Robinson (Sylvia Van Buren), Les Tremayne (General Mann), Robert Cornthwaite (Dr. Pryor), Sandro Giglio (Dr. Bilderbeck), Lewis Martin (Pastor Matthew Collins), Housely Stevenson Jr. (General Mann's Aide), Paul Frees (Second Radio Reporter/Opening Announcer), William Phipps (Wash Perry), Vernon Rich (Colonel Ralph Heffner) and Cedric Hardwicke (Commentary Voice).
Budget, Filming Locations

Budgeted at $2 million, The War of the Worlds was filmed primarily in Los Angeles. Locations included City Hall, First United Methodist Church on Franklin Avenue, St. Brendan's Catholic Church on Van Ness Avenue and the U.S. District Court Building on Spring Street.
Other filming locations included Simi Valley, California, and Phoenix and Florence, Arizona.
Special Effects

The producers allotted $1.4 million to special effects alone, with Gordon Jennings, Ivyl Burks, Jan Domela, Wallace Kelley, Paul Lerpae and Irmin Roberts in charge.
Glass paintings, matte work and miniatures were used to great effect to create the destruction wrought by an an alien invasion. An eight-foot-high replica of Los Angeles City Hall was constructed and then dynamited, delivering one of the most specatcular scenes in sci-fi movie history.
The sinister Martian heat-ray sound was accomplished via a recording of three electric guitars whose notes were then replayed backward. The infamous Martian scream was actually a combination of dry ice scraped across a microphone and a woman's scream played backward.
Martian Invasion

Following a brief narration, The War of the Worlds opens near Linda Rosa, California, where a large meteorite crashes into a field. The "meteorite" turns out to be the vanguard of an alien invasion, out of which emerge three fantastic Martian war machines.
The American military surrounds the crash site, with a minister, Matthew Collins, slipping by and approaching the invaders with only a bible in hand. Pastor Collins is spotted by the Martians and is immediately disintegrated by their deadly heat-ray. The military retaliates, but their weapons are of no use as the Martians have erected an impenetrable force field.
Alien pods continue to drop to Earth, delivering more war machines which wreak death and destruction worldwide. After an atomic bomb fails to even dent the initial alien landing site outside of Los Angeles, Dr. Clayton Forrester and his fellow Pacific Tech scientists feverishly race to come up with another strategy to stop the Martians.
Release, Reviews

George Pal's The War of the Worlds premiered in Atlantic City, New Jersey, on July 29, 1953.
"War of the Worlds is a socko science-fiction feature, as fearsome as a film as was the Orson Welles 1938 radio interpretation of the H.G. Wells novel," reported Variety (4/6/53).
Box Office, Academy Award, DVD, Remake

The War of the Worlds grossed over $2 million, making it the most successful science fiction film of 1953.
The War of the Worlds won an Academy Award for Best Special Effects.
Highly recommended: The War of the Worlds, Special Collector's Edition, released in 2005.
War of the Worlds was remade in 2005 starring Tom Cruise.
"Guns, tanks, bombs -- they're like toys against them!" decries General Mann in frustration as the Martians continue their onslaught.
Kind of humbling, isn't it, General?

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If it is on film it must be true . Nothing to do with God just human ingenuity.
 

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These fictions are nice indeed, and all of you enjoy it; but when some speak in a way that is not proper about the Quran, I am obliged to answer them; but that of course will not suit some of them; so he says: Is this related to Mars.
In spite of all this, Mars has many similarities to Earth, and its circumstances will let it proper for life bearing.
 

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These fictions are nice indeed, and all of you enjoy it; but when some speak in a way that is not proper about the Quran, I am obliged to answer them; but that of course will not suit some of them; so he says: Is this related to Mars.
In spite of all this, Mars has many similarities to Earth, and its circumstances will let it proper for life bearing.

Will we all know when they have arrived? Or will this be a covert thing?
 

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Will we all know when they have arrived? Or will this be a covert thing?

I don't know when they will meet together: the people of the earth with the people of Mars and some other planets, but certainly it will be a historic event; it may be the pirate in your avatar will tell you :smile:
 

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I don't know when they will meet together: the people of the earth with the people of Mars and some other planets, but certainly it will be a historic event; it may be the pirate in your avatar will tell you :smile:

In other words: The courage of your convictions is your unwillingness to see the other side of the question.
 

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These fictions are nice indeed, and all of you enjoy it; but when some speak in a way that is not proper about the Quran, I am obliged to answer them; but that of course will not suit some of them; so he says: Is this related to Mars.
In spite of all this, Mars has many similarities to Earth, and its circumstances will let it proper for life bearing.
Speaking of fictions, the Quran seems to be a pretty good example. In what sense is anyone speaking in a way that is not proper about it? It stands or falls on its own merits, like any other book, and is not immune to criticism. If the citations you keep providing from it in support of your crackpot science are any indication, the Quran's merits are small.

Mars also has many differences from Earth, differences that render it inimical to any form of life we know of beyond the level of simple bacteria. You started this thread with the claim that Mars is inhabited, not merely by bacteria, but by large animals and plants, and have provided no evidence in support of that except religious texts, which have no scientific merit at all. Your claims are at best unsupported by any evidence science would recognize as legitimate, and at worst they're just stupid. You have completely failed to make your case, and you appear to be unable to grasp how utterly and totally you have failed. You're beating a dead horse; it isn't going to get up and run.
 

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Speaking of fictions, the Quran seems to be a pretty good example. In what sense is anyone speaking in a way that is not proper about it? It stands or falls on its own merits, like any other book, and is not immune to criticism. If the citations you keep providing from it in support of your crackpot science are any indication, the Quran's merits are small.

Mars also has many differences from Earth, differences that render it inimical to any form of life we know of beyond the level of simple bacteria. You started this thread with the claim that Mars is inhabited, not merely by bacteria, but by large animals and plants, and have provided no evidence in support of that except religious texts, which have no scientific merit at all. Your claims are at best unsupported by any evidence science would recognize as legitimate, and at worst they're just stupid. You have completely failed to make your case, and you appear to be unable to grasp how utterly and totally you have failed. You're beating a dead horse; it isn't going to get up and run.

Once again Dex, I salute and applaud you.