Marines and Honour
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Then you obviously didn't bother to read it. Ask me if I'm surprised.
I read it. So a Pakistani source is to be trusted. Where did the 17,000 Russian troops go.
Shxt man- That has been flying around the net for a long time.
Do you believe it?
This has gone on throughout history the difference is someone took pictures and
made the public. It has happened in every war, and in fact worse things were
done in some cases. These guys have been fighting these miserable excuses
for human beings and I suppose hatred in stronger than discretion.
Is this any different than dragging the bodies of American troops through the
streets of some of these countries?
Those who don't know this has been going on should think twice. Do you really
think Osama Bin Laden got a full funeral in accordance withe the articles of his
faith? If you believe that How many bridges would one like to buy, I have one
that crosses the Bay in San Francisco.
made the public. It has happened in every war, and in fact worse things were
done in some cases. These guys have been fighting these miserable excuses
for human beings and I suppose hatred in stronger than discretion.
Is this any different than dragging the bodies of American troops through the
streets of some of these countries?
Those who don't know this has been going on should think twice. Do you really
think Osama Bin Laden got a full funeral in accordance withe the articles of his
faith? If you believe that How many bridges would one like to buy, I have one
that crosses the Bay in San Francisco.
So humans have to imitate primates? And because it is a tradition means it isn't childish?
Odd.
Cliffy, that's not the case. The Taliban are followers of a political ideology--Islamism, which was actually influenced by European fascism and is as monstrous an ideology as western Nazism. And most Afghanistani are NOT followers of the ideology, and in fact were terrorized by the Taliban, especially the women. And they don't just hide among the local population--they often threaten and terrorize them into silence or compliance. Did you hear of the young boy they excuted a while back for being a "traitor"? I can't remember the exact age, but it was a little boy. To understand the Taliban is like trying to understand Hitler and the concentration camp guards. Kinda hard to do but it doesn't mean that mentality doesn't exist.
I think pissing on dead bodies, even of the Taliban, really is wrong and I think the US military does as well, since the soldiers are being investigated. For all the horrors soldiers in Afghanistan experience, I think the vast majority would beand are respectful of enemy bodies.
I'm a little suspicious as to why the video was released a year after the event. I suspect it has something to do with attempts to negotiate with the Taliban, and it's being used by either Islamists from Al Qaeda, or some in the Taliban to stirr up outrage and walk out of the negotiations. In which case, I'd be investigating who was behind the camera as well.
I have no doubt that we have contingency plans to occupy if needed just about every country in the world, and in some cases them doing the same or worse to us. Just look what Hugo Chavez tried to do. This was not a shoot from the hip reaction by our State Department, just check out her video.
"MIAMI - President Hugo Chavez on Friday announced an "administrative shutdown" of the Venezuelan consulate in Miami, in response to the U.S. State Department’s decision to expel the consul in that diplomatic post, Livia Acosta, who had been accused of participating in an Iranian plot against the United States.
The administrative shutdown, which Chavez described as an interim measure while his government makes a final decision, leaves more than 200,000 Venezuelans in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina without a consular site nearby where they can turn to for assistance.
In a speech before the National Assembly, Chavez said that the State Department’s decision against Acosta was unfair, spurred by the pressure exerted by the extreme-right sectors that exist in Miami."
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/international/americas/view.bg?&articleid=1395878&page=1&listingType=intamer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16461697
"MIAMI - President Hugo Chavez on Friday announced an "administrative shutdown" of the Venezuelan consulate in Miami, in response to the U.S. State Department’s decision to expel the consul in that diplomatic post, Livia Acosta, who had been accused of participating in an Iranian plot against the United States.
The administrative shutdown, which Chavez described as an interim measure while his government makes a final decision, leaves more than 200,000 Venezuelans in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina without a consular site nearby where they can turn to for assistance.
In a speech before the National Assembly, Chavez said that the State Department’s decision against Acosta was unfair, spurred by the pressure exerted by the extreme-right sectors that exist in Miami."
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/international/americas/view.bg?&articleid=1395878&page=1&listingType=intamer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16461697
I did read it, but then I am talking to a moron which comes as no great surprise .
Your documentation is "what I believe"....too funny!
I thought you were far more intelligent than to believe that bullsh*t, of course you seem to believe the taliban asked the US and NATO to send in the troops.
Have you been drinking?
Really where did you draw that conclusion. I'll wait til you sober up then get a quote.
Whether I believe it or not is irrelevant. The "news snippet" had everything to do with Cliffy's post.
I do have an opinion. My opinion is that it has everything to do with Cliffy's post.
As for the idea that there was a plan, of course I believe it. There really is no reason that I can see not to believe it.
U.S. planned for attack on al-Qaida - US news - Security - msnbc.com
The sickening brutality goes both ways and covers all points of the spectrum. These Marines represent a point on the spectrum.
But in the end, my belief is that their actions are not comparable with the more heinous examples wrought by both (all) parties.
They asked for military forces to be deployed along with boat loads of cash to aid their nation... Look it up and you'll find numerous sources to confirm this... You can choose which ever source you wish to believe.
That argument falls flat considering that Canada's prairie provinces have proven reserves that can fuel the Western economies for a few hundred years... The amount of cash that has been spent to date by NATO nations (read: Western economies) could have already developed the North American resource base, transportation and infrastructure a few times over.
I just can't buy your argument.
Those plans died with Moe Green.... Originally. they had proposed to build a city of casinos in the middle of the Afghanistan desert and supporting tourist trap. Las Vegas was just a test project, but the real one was slated for the ME.
Me thinks that the deal fell flat when Moe Green crossed the Corleones - he got whacked PDQ.
If it's acceptable to piss on the bodies, then it must also be acceptable to drag them through the streets behind jeeps in celebration.
These actions feed on themselves and promote more of the same. The Taliban have made no secret of those incidents where they have disrespected a body or living soldier.
Ever read the novel "All Quiet on the Western Front"? There's a passage wherein a soldier describes what they do to enemy combatants that would modify their bayonets to have a serrated edge. It's a barbaric description, but the retaliation was done so because getting stabbed with a serrated edge would eliminate any chance for the person stabbed to be treated (successfully) by the medical staff.