MARC EMRERY GOING TO PRISON FOR uncle sam

[Praxius]

Exactly, the guy is an egomaniacal idiot............I think pot should be legal, but it ain't exactly at the foundation of our freedom..........

How STUPID do you have to be to ship seedsto the USA?

They do have a serious puritan streak..........

Seeds arn't illegal though, technically, since they do not contain any real THC. It's not his fault other people grow things from them.

But anyways, I find it stupid to send someone to jail for something that grows in the ground naturally. Apparently the US government as well as others like to dictate what part of nature is allowed and what is not.

 

[Praxius]

Oh ya...lifes a bitch when you partake of illegal activities.

Oh please.... it shouldn't be illegal in the first place, that's the whole point.

Oooo I smoke a bit of pot, now come here so I can rob you and masturbate on your hair.

If anything Alcohol should be illegal but we seen what happened with that. Many people "Partook in illegal activities" then it became legal again. Something which is more harmful to your body and others around you (Depending on what you do) then what weed could ever do.

 

[Praxius]

As I understand it, he was selling them here to undercover DEA who established a relationship with him and then asked him to mail seeds to them at a US mailing address. And so, had him.

Sounds like entrapment to me. Seeds are illegal in the states apparently, but they're not here. Unless someone changed things since the last time I checked.

 

[Praxius]

And many people consider selling pot harmful to those too young to understand the ramifications of such a habbit.

Same with smoking tobacco, or alcohol, which both are physically and mentally addictive. But hey, it happens legal or not.

And I agree, I've seen alot of teenagers, including some family members, ruin their life because they become total potheads and don't understand moderation (don't get me wrong, no different than alcohol or tobacco).

ok, never mind.

But its not about the severity of the law, its that we are a democracy. We have decided that certain acts are illegal. I think making pot smoking illegal is stupid, that being said, I don't decide I know better than everyone else and break the law anyways. I focus my effort on changing the law. He did that too mind you, and I support him in his acts, but arbitrarily deciding that no one else gets a say in the law if he doesn't like it should not be condoned.

Making pot legal isn't stupid at all. Besides medical benifits, if weed was legal, then you just might see plenty of people switch their vices from harmful substances like tobacco and alcohol. There would be at least a lesser of three evils. Something of which may help fix that arthritis in your wrist.

I think he shouldn't be extradited, but I do think he should be tried here. And I think anyone in the US he mailed too should be arrested for breaking their countries laws.

If people just ignore the laws they don't like, democracy falls apart pretty fast.

When was the last time we had a country wide vote on legalizing it? Until that happens, this isn't a democracy.

I feel serious concerns about where the country goes with laws or way of life, the government should present multiple options they came to agreement as being the better options overall and we as citizens vote them in. Then they make them happen. Make them do some work as well as us.

By the way, considdering Canada has the highest % of population which smoked weed of all developed countries, including those who have it legal, kinda is a sign that most don't see it as a big issue anymore.

 

[Zzarchov]

I said "I think making pot smoking illegal is stupid"

You replied with "Making pot legal isn't stupid at all."

As if there was some disagreement.

I do not disagree with you in that statement at all, it seems people insist on implying I hold views I do not, simply because they skim over my post and make assumptions.

 

[Pangloss]

I agree with civil disobediance, however, you should not expect to avoid punishment. If he does not wish his accomplices to be prosecuted, they should probably be advised not to engage in the activity.

I think we agree on this. . .with one shading of difference - I take issue with being disobedient to the laws of another nation (when the law being objected to is essentially a domestic issue). Unless his issue is sovereignty, he ought to leave the domestic issues of another nation alone.

Obviously there are limits to my position, but I hope common sense can reign here.

One last, really minor point: I rather like his motives regarding the other users/accused.

Pangloss

 

[Praxius]

I said "I think making pot smoking illegal is stupid"

You replied with "Making pot legal isn't stupid at all."

As if there was some disagreement.

My bad, I missed the i. Read too fast that time.

 

[RomSpaceKnight]

If cigarettes and alcohol are legal why not pot? That's like banning Chryslers from the road and letting Fords and Chevies on them.

It is every citizens right and duty to disobey unconsciousionable (splchk) laws.

I can smoke a fattie before I go in a bar. Shoot pool (not well cause I'm stoned) for a couple hours, walk out straight and be DD for the boozers.

The police need a road side tester for pot before it can become legal for non-vehicular use.

 

[Unforgiven]

If cigarettes and alcohol are legal why not pot? That's like banning Chryslers from the road and letting Fords and Chevies on them.

It is every citizens right and duty to disobey unconsciousionable (splchk) laws.

I can smoke a fattie before I go in a bar. Shoot pool (not well cause I'm stoned) for a couple hours, walk out straight and be DD for the boozers.

The police need a road side tester for pot before it can become legal for non-vehicular use.

Pot doesn't really compare to alcohol when it comes to co-ordination though. Most people who smoke pot and drive, drive slower than they usually would and take greater care in what they are doing. Granted if you are some awarness deprived kid with a problem to begin with, it isn't going to make things better.

From personal experience, I can usually tell when someone has smoked so much Pot that they are going to be dangerous. So I would suspect that any cop that has been at work long enough to collect a pay cheque, should be able to spot it with a roadside check.

I still maintain though that the best thing to do is to decriminalize it, allow for a small amount of cultivation in the home per adult. Legalizing it would put the government in charge of it and we all know just how great they are at screwing things up. There is no possible way for them not to make things much worse by taking it on themselves.

 

[MikeyDB]

Pot has to be made illegal because the machinery of greed can't tax something anyone could grow in their own home. Is it reasonable to expect the pharmaceutical companies to sit idly by when such a threat to their profitability goes on unpunished!?

Scrape away all the nonsense and you'll find that nearly every conflict begins and ends with greed.

 

[Zzarchov]

Uhm...

Really? You can EASILY tax things people grow in their own home, and they aren't all illegal.

 

[Unforgiven]

Uhm...

Really? You can EASILY tax things people grow in their own home, and they aren't all illegal.

Maybe you can tax the supplies, but other than that I would like to hear how you would go about it.

 

[Zzarchov]

Im refering to the net effect.

Ie, I could grow all the radishes I need in my balcony, but I don't because its easier just to buy radishes, and pay tax on them.

90% of people wouldn't grow their own pot if it was legal, too much work.

 

[Tonington]

And some people have better experience and skill at growing radishes, err pot. That's how capitalism works. Also known as division of labour.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

The US law here is an ass. Pot like many other substances should be regulated and sold by the gov't. There is big revenue here you cannot tell me that hundreds of thousands of Cdns smoking pot and watching hockey on Saturday night are criminals. Marc Emery going to jail is sad and unfair.

 

[louchiss]

so sad

]i cant believe he is going to jail. He never did anything wrong. He is a genius. Innovator. Hybrid cross straining herbal scientist. What a sad day in canadian history. The greatest man who is solely responsible for putting our weed on the map. God dam conservative party. Liberal till death. No good lawyers. Walk the walk but cant do your job right and talk the talk.