Man stabbed, beheaded on bus in Manitoba

Kreskin

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CBC had a good news story on this.

Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something."

Police cruisers arrived about 10 minutes after the attack began, he estimated, and officers began directing passengers to school buses to take them to a hotel in Brandon.

"While we were waiting on the side of the road, [the attacker] was taunting the police with the head in his hand," said Caton.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html
 

dirtylinder

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.....I keep saying it the world is mad and is in a hand basket.

Some of us are mad (I assume you mean "crazy" mad with the hand basket statement....not "angry" mad) yet we still know right from wrong....how can a person not understand ...thou shall not kill? Would they be thinking: "today I want to kill"..."today I must kill" or "I'll show these normal people, I'll kill one of them"? I wonder if a person capable of such a thing "gets off" by his actions in a horribly perverse way? I wonder how the killers parents/family are coping..... their lives have changed forever.
 

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Some of us are mad (I assume you mean "crazy" mad with the hand basket statement....not "angry" mad) yet we still know right from wrong....how can a person not understand ...thou shall not kill? Would they be thinking: "today I want to kill"..."today I must kill" or "I'll show these normal people, I'll kill one of them"? I wonder if a person capable of such a thing "gets off" by his actions in a horribly perverse way? I wonder how the killers parents/family are coping..... their lives have changed forever.

That quote you have under my name, isn't mine
 

karrie

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That I think would require an explanation on your part, please.

she quoted your post, and it quoted it as talloola because you left a stub of a quote code in your post.

you have to kind of watch how the quote codes (the bits in the [ ] that say quote=scratch;973397 for example) show up in your posts and make sure that the right person is showing, and you're quoting them properly, for it to not happen.
 

scratch

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she quoted your post, and it quoted it as talloola because you left a stub of a quote code in your post.

you have to kind of watch how the quote codes (the bits in the [ ] that say quote=scratch;973397 for example) show up in your posts and make sure that the right person is showing, and you're quoting them properly, for it to not happen.

Thank you for the explanation. I will watch for that.
 

Scott Free

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Why the hell would you compare anger over religion to frustration over the death of a human being?

I wasn't comparing but drawing a parallel to your getting all freaked out over some jokes and Muslims getting all freaked out.

WTF is wrong with you? Do you not get the difference AT ALL? And what does me being a woman have to do with a damn thing darling? huh? Sweetums? What the hell difference does that make in having a human reaction and discussing it. Just because you seem to fail to grasp the concept of emotion doesn't mean that it's the realm merely of women.

I've been on forums long enough to know the kind of kid gloves women get treated with on forums. They can say the dumbest things and people just think "isn't that cute."

You've just run into someone who doesn't give a $h!t and your not used to it. So you want to turn this tragedy into a big drama all about you. I wanted to joke about it.

So get the f**k over yourself.

Don't loose your head about it.

So you piss and moan like it involves you somehow and I'll crack jokes.
 

Scott Free

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Apparently this guy was also eating his victim. Natives have a monster in their mythology that eats people called a Wendigo. It is likely that somehow he thought he had become one and was craving human flesh. Definitely crazy and poor table manners.
 

Scott Free

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I didn't read it someone told me about seeing it mentioned on TV briefly and once. She thinks the media was hiding that detail. Not as a conspiracy but just in good taste (pun intended).
 

talloola

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Some of us are mad (I assume you mean "crazy" mad with the hand basket statement....not "angry" mad) yet we still know right from wrong....how can a person not understand ...thou shall not kill? Would they be thinking: "today I want to kill"..."today I must kill" or "I'll show these normal people, I'll kill one of them"? I wonder if a person capable of such a thing "gets off" by his actions in a horribly perverse way? I wonder how the killers parents/family are coping..... their lives have changed forever.

:roll:
 
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Zzarchov

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Close to home means something we feel personally. If only for an instant, it is a touch from reality.

I feel that all the time I read about death, maybe im just unusally empathic, then again maybe Im not, I can't tell you what others are feeling inside (a blow against)

@ Karrie

I've never claimed you've made such jokes, only that such jokes have been made before without a fuss. While this is more real to you, based on your geography, to alot of people on this forum, a death in Iraq, or Saudi Arabia or Mexico or China are all "more real" in the same manner.

To people across the world, this is just one more wierd thing in some far off place they will never visit.

I do hope you end up being ok though, no one deserves to suffer.
 

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Seconded ... on CTV News

OK, thank you, then if this man is native and in particular a Cree then he is familiar with the Wendigo legend. It is very likely then that he was acting on that belief somehow. Perhaps he thought he had been possessed by a Windigo - maybe he really had been (if you go for that kind of thing).
 

lone wolf

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I feel that all the time I read about death, maybe im just unusally empathic, then again maybe Im not, I can't tell you what others are feeling inside (a blow against)
It's not a blow against. It's being human. I feel empathy when I hear of tragedy - like you. Close to home is deeper. It's that knot-in-the-gut feeling when I hear the screech of tires nearby and my kid is out on a bicycle somewhere - or the death of someone close that reminds me that I'm not going to live forever - or when I hear of an accident or something like this where there is a possibility a loved one may be there. Nobody can tell what another is feeling inside - and nobody can feel your things the way you do or my things the way I do. If we could, there wouldn't be mixed-up words and misunderstanding and this world would be a much happier place....:smile:
 

talloola

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I understand that Karrie is 'geographically' quite close to the situation.

When I mentioned that it was 'close' to home, I meant 'Canada' rather than the usual
stories we hear, which are in the middle east, etc. etc.
 

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It's not a blow against. It's being human. I feel empathy when I hear of tragedy - like you. Close to home is deeper. It's that knot-in-the-gut feeling when I hear the screech of tires nearby and my kid is out on a bicycle somewhere - or the death of someone close that reminds me that I'm not going to live forever - or when I hear of an accident or something like this where there is a possibility a loved one may be there. Nobody can tell what another is feeling inside - and nobody can feel your things the way you do or my things the way I do. If we could, there wouldn't be mixed-up words and misunderstanding and this world would be a much happier place....:smile:

Very well put.

Now how do we get this to work?

IMO: Our (the world) is on the brink of something horrendous. We see actions everyday that are in our estimation are inhuman, we try to act according to what we were taught and how we got this far. Yet history tells us that more often than not this does not happen. We are a species set to self destruct. Too many have died -- really for what -- what was accomplished?
As the saying goes "what goes around, comes around", that time has arrived and no-one here at 3C or anywhere else has a solution.
So sad but true.
When blase hits, disaster follows........