Man drunk on mouthwash caught going down on sister

coldstream

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Uh, sorry to burst your bubble, coldstream, but your Revised Standard Version of the Bible is just that, a version, one more crack at interpertating the bloody thing. A good chunk of Christians deem that the 1611 King James - and only that - is the one true Bible that all good Christian's should have and connect to.

Then there's all those other versions...

So honestly, you can't say for sure which Bible is even the right one, let alone use it as a guide to life.

The King James Version is a pillar of the English Language. Many of its phrases are inculcated into our modern modes of expression. It became unfortunately a victim of the religious divides of Protestanism and Catholicism of the time in some of its translations. The Catholic Douay Rhiems version of the same period was more precise and authentic, but far less poetic.

The Revised Standard Version in the late 19th Century, the first new comprehensive translation since the KJV, was developed from original texts with the intent of retaining the poetic character of the KJV and the authenticity of DRV.

At same time it updated some of the language to exclude archaic words and expressions.. although it still kept most of the Old English pronouns. Hence my point that if you're looking for a good study or reference Bible, the RSV is your best choice (the Catholic Version of course). But i'd certainly say everyone should keep a King James Version on hand as well, just because of the historic power of its articulation.

By all means though, avoid some of the modern translations that have been corrupted by an agenda of political correctness. Some of them revising original intent or translating them to correspond to feminist or homosexual agendas. Some have become 'gender neutral', and really a pile of nonsense.
 
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AnnaG

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Hmm. I thought they called us breeders. Just saying, as a side note. :cool:
Among other things. Some aren't so nice. lol

Definitely have to watch out for that gender neutral stuff, alright. Next thing you know women will be equal to men. Terrible idea.

Personally, if people spent more time figuring out what's good for themselves and others and less time trying to figure out what's in the holey (the "e" is intentional) Bible, we'd probably be better off.
 
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coldstream

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Definitely have to watch out for that gender neutral stuff, alright. Next thing you know women will be equal to men. Terrible idea.

Actually, Anna, men and women have never been more confused and unhappy, than when they took 'equality' of the sexes to mean 'equivalency', complete indifference between the genders.

The unique & complementary.. emotional & vocational makeup of men of women is at the core of natural law and rational social organization. It's why homosexual 'marriage' is so absurd and untenable.. along with a lot of other stuff. So right, gender neutral Scripture is pure nonsense. :smile:
 
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Actually, Anna, men and women have never been more confused and unhappy, than when they took 'equality' of the sexes to mean 'equivalency', complete indifference between the genders.

The unique & complementary.. emotional & vocational makeup of men of women is at the core of natural law and rational social organization. It's why homosexual 'marriage' is so absurd and untenable.. along with a lot of other stuff. So right, gender neutral Scripture is pure nonsense. :smile:
The common denominator with religious nut bars is that they are alway but always on the right side of the fence and everyone else is on the otherside on the verge of burning in hell. Always make thems selves the higher authority of that religion and preach when they should be what they really are ....... sheeps.
 

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The authority of religion requires sheeple to band together and Baah! in unison. That is why dogma is so destructive to the human spirit. It imprisons not only the mind but the soul (whatever you think that means). It is that which separates religion from spirituality. Spirituality is the individual search for truth in whatever form it turns out to be and whereever it turns up. It doesn't require gods or demons and is more about the personal journey than a set of beliefs.
 

El Barto

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The authority of religion requires sheeple to band together and Baah! in unison. That is why dogma is so destructive to the human spirit. It imprisons not only the mind but the soul (whatever you think that means). It is that which separates religion from spirituality. Spirituality is the individual search for truth in whatever form it turns out to be and whereever it turns up. It doesn't require gods or demons and is more about the personal journey than a set of beliefs.
I have no rep points for you left on this one , mind if i report you instead????
 

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Just sort of getting back on topic again: Listerine contains 26.8 percent alcohol so it wouldn't take that much to get drunk on it. Doesn't have as much alcohol as whiskey but it has more than most wines.
 

El Barto

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maybe someone told the guy she was adopted as a joke ?????
what an April fools joke that would be hahahahahahahahah
 

coldstream

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The authority of religion requires sheeple to band together and Baah! in unison. That is why dogma is so destructive to the human spirit. It imprisons not only the mind but the soul (whatever you think that means). It is that which separates religion from spirituality. Spirituality is the individual search for truth in whatever form it turns out to be and whereever it turns up. It doesn't require gods or demons and is more about the personal journey than a set of beliefs.

The definition of dogma is a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively established through reason, experience and revelation. Far from being imprisoning it challenges and liberates the mind, and is accepted not imposed. It provides coherence and integrity to religion.

I think what you are talking about, Cliffy, is superstition, that which you call spirituality, which requires no institution or organization, no rationale or authority. That is based on primitive fear, sense reaction and is averse to all logic and objectivity. It's led by a mob mentality, leaderless and directionless, rather than a Good Shepherd. :smile:
 

AnnaG

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Dogma:
from Princeton U. Press -
"a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof"

From Merriam-Webster -
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Main Entry:dog·ma Pronunciation:\ˈdȯg-mə, ˈdäg-\ Function:noun Inflected Form(s):plural dogmas also dog·ma·ta \-mə-tə\ Etymology:Latin dogmat-, dogma, from Greek, from dokein to seem — more at decentDate:16381 a: something held as an established opinion ; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b: a code of such tenets <pedagogical dogma> c: a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds

2: a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church"

I can't find any definition that says anything about dogma being arrived at through reason or logic. Just that concerning religions, it is proclaimed, claimed, stated, asserted as being true sans supporting evidence.

Anyway, I'll stick to wine, schnapps, etc. thanks. Mouthwash is for rinsing with after brushing.
 
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I think there is a good chance the mouth wash companies might just sue this guy for loss of business....if in fact it does result in loss.
 

coldstream

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AnnaG;1129989 Dogma: [COLOR=blue said:
2: a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church"[/color]

I can't find any definition that says anything about dogma being arrived at through reason or logic. Just that concerning religions, it is proclaimed, claimed, stated, asserted as being true sans supporting evidence.

Well you'd have to have read an Encyclical to realize that dogma is NEVER proclaimed in the Church with not only intense reason and logic..

but vetting and consultation of all of the Magisterium (the Bishops and teaching authority of the Church)..

through comprehensive auditing within the Curia to integrate it to the entire doctrine of the Church, and ensure consistency..

with prayer through which the revelation of the Holy Spirit is acquired by the entire 'mystical' body of Church..

and, of course, through the basis of Scripture as the original Word of God.

In fact none of this is done 'without proof'. It all clearly sets out the premises on which it is based, however.. as every other proclaimed 'truth' be it scientific, moral or social is outside the institution.

I've posted Encyclicals here from which you can glean how exhaustive the methodology is, Anna.. i guess you must have missed them. :roll:
 

AnnaG

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Well you'd have to have read an Encyclical to realize that dogma is NEVER proclaimed in the Church with not only intense reason and logic..

but vetting and consultation of all of the Magisterium (the Bishops and teaching authority of the Church)..

through comprehensive auditing within the Curia to integrate it to the entire doctrine of the Church, and ensure consistency..

with prayer through which the revelation of the Holy Spirit is acquired by the entire 'mystical' body of Church..

and, of course, through the basis of Scripture as the original Word of God.

In fact none of this is done 'without proof'. It all clearly sets out the premises on which it is based, however.. as every other proclaimed 'truth' be it scientific, moral or social is outside the institution.

I've posted Encyclicals here from which you can glean how exhaustive the methodology is, Anna.. i guess you must have missed them. :roll:
Ah yes. I am an authority unto myself, too. :roll: My own dogma is true becaise I said so. :roll:
What a laugh.:laughing9: