Majority of Conservative voters support defunding the CBC — but not attacks on media

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A clear majority of Conservative supporters strongly support taking public funds away from the CBC — but fewer support attacks on journalists, a Mainstreet poll suggests.
Several prominent Conservatives, including leader Pierre Poilievre and former leader Erin O’Toole, have called for deeply cutting or completely defunding the CBC.
In 2021, government grants made up about 60 per cent of the CBC’s revenue.
The question of whether the CBC should get public funds is a very partisan one, with Conservatives far more likely to say they should be taken away.

(Most Bloc voters, interestingly, are stout supporters of the national public broadcaster.)


Past Conservative or PC governments, while not friendly to the CBC, didn’t pose an existential threat to it either, in practice.
Would one that is led by Poilievre?
It’s “a flashpoint issue that could well unify Conservative opponents,” said University of Toronto political scientist Christopher Cochrane.
“Those are the kinds of issues that if the Conservatives are thinking strategically, they would want to avoid. It’s very possible the Conservatives could win the next election if the Liberal-NDP vote is split, but it’s inconceivable that they’re going to win it if the NDP supporters rally behind the Liberals. Threatening to abolish the CBC would be a real strategic blunder for the Conservatives.”

NDP support shifting to Liberals

Compared to a poll in July, among decided and leaning voters:
  • Conservatives have moved from 38 per cent to 41 per cent
  • Liberals have moved from 28 per cent to 33 per cent
  • NDP has moved from 18 per cent to 12 per cent
Poilievre has sought to bring People’s Party of Canada voters back into the mainstream Conservative party, it would seem with some success — PPC support has fallen to three per cent in this poll, down from five per cent in July. The PPC got about five per cent of votes nationally in the 2021 election.
“Poilievre captures all but the most extreme supporters of the People’s Party,” explained Mainstreet CEO Quito Maggi. “Looking at an average of where we’ve seen PPC support in 2022, that’s (down by) about half to a third. We’ve had them in high single digits most of the year.”
However, Poilievre’s appeal to the right has had another effect: spooking soft NDP supporters toward the Liberals.
“It’s this polarization of public opinion, with Trudeau as the champion of the progressive vote and Poilievre the champion of the conservative vote,” Maggi said.
“If we continue to see this, the NDP staying low and then continuing to decrease, we could end up in a scenario where it’s an extremely polarized, almost two-party system like we have in the United States, in the next election.”
Progressive voters rallying to the Liberals from the NDP is a dangerous trend for Conservatives, said Cochrane.
“In many respects, the Conservatives’ fate is tied to New Democratic Party success. The better the New Democrats do, the better chance the Conservatives have of winning governments, and if they alienate them, it’s going to be a very difficult challenge for them.”

Views of candidates attacking the media

Conservative MPs, including Poilievre, have seemed to be making a point of picking fights with reporters in recent days.
READ MORE: Conservative MP demands journalist be kicked out of parliamentary press gallery over tweet
Respondents were asked whether they’d be more or less likely to support a candidate who attacked media they perceived as unfavourable to them.





Conservatives are both more positive and less negative about the tactic than supporters of other parties.
“I think the idea of the establishment media being against Conservative MPs, and their positioning themselves against the quote-unquote establishment media at every opportunity, is not at all a surprising strategy,” Cochrane said. “And I’m not at all surprised that it works for them.”
Carleton University journalism professor Dwayne Winseck said he expected Conservative support for the tactic to be stronger than it turned out to be.
“I was surprised. This was a little softer than what I was anticipating as I read through the other (questions) and based on my previous reading around this topic. These numbers are not as clearly distinct as the others from the other parties.”

Fox’s northern outpost

Some three per cent of those surveyed said the outlet they consumed the most news from was Fox News, compared to four per cent for CNN and one per cent for three other traditional American networks.
Canadian Fox consumers are:
  • more than twice as likely to be male as female
  • likelier to be over 65
  • much likelier to live in Alberta: 9.3 per cent of Albertans surveyed said their main news source was Fox
  • have a high school education or less
  • about equally likely to support the Conservatives or PPC; almost none support any other party or are undecided

What media people consume

Asked what media outlet they consumed the most, 55 per cent of Conservatives, and 67 per cent of PPC supporters, named Fox News, YouTube or social media, or “alternative media” — not a traditional outlet.
“This is just wild, in my view,” Winseck said.
“Over half of the Conservative party relies upon this right-wing network propaganda system with Fox News as its hub. Revolving around that hub are all sorts of others like Breitbart, Infowars and all sorts of others. Daily Caller.”
The equivalent figures for the Liberals were eight per cent, 24 per cent for the NDP and 32 per cent for the Bloc.
Liberal, NDP and Bloc supporters were the likeliest to say their main news source was the CBC (57 per cent, 48 per cent and 78 per cent).
YouTube’s algorithms reward inflammatory content, which machine learning has discovered keeps people engaged for longer, seeing more ads, tending toward extremism, Cochrane said.
“These algorithms’ main function is to keep people on, to keep them interested, keep them watching and that sort of thing. There’s a real risk that people who start down the path toward more off-the-wall content end up being drawn into even more off-the-wall content and so on. I think that’s a very real possibility.”

This Mainstreet Research poll was conducted on Sept. 21 and 22, 2022. A sample of 1,088 people was interviewed by automated telephone interviews. The poll is accurate to within ±3 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
Mainstreet Research is part owner of
iPolitics and QP Briefing.
 
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There's a few interesting takeaways there -

Mainstreet uses 'decided and "leaning"' in their voter intentions, whereas a lot of others are just using decided right at the moment. Mainstreet is showing stronger support for the CPC, and weaker support for the ndp than most other polls right now. And libs slightly higher.

That suggests that a lot of people are CONSIDERING STRONGLY moving towards the cpc and many are considering moving away from the NDP to either the libs or CPC.

Polls between elections are only useful as trend trackers over time, but this is very interesting and very promising for the CPC. It strongly suggests that people are starting to look at PP and are not unhappy with what they see, even if they're not ready to commit just yet.
 
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The CBC’s hypocritical treatment of American columnist and podcaster Ben Shapiro is the most recent example of why Canada’s public broadcaster is in need of significant reforms.

On Sept. 19, the CBC published a news report that questioned whether Shapiro is “a conservative political commentator,” despite the fact that such a descriptor is the most accurate and objective way to describe his work. Instead, in an article about the online radicalization of young men, the CBC suggested that Shapiro is an extremist, without presenting any evidence.


“While Shapiro is not affiliated with any hate group,” CBC’s Brock Wilson admitted, “experts in media, gender studies and the radicalization of young men say that the commentator’s content is prevalent in online extremist communities.”

Earlier this year, CBC News editor in chief Brodie Fenlon wrote, “It’s important to understand how the growing intolerance of journalism is playing out in this country and making it more challenging for us to report the news.” Fenlon also stated that, “The erosion of trust in journalism has a real-world impact on the people who do it, and by extension, you, the people we serve.”

Yet, by attacking Shapiro, the CBC is targeting a commentator who has been on the receiving end of more online antisemitism than any one else in the American news media. According to a 2016 study produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Shapiro is the most-targeted Jewish journalist in the United States.

It’s a bizarre decision for the CBC to smear Shapiro as an extremist, because the organization claims to be concerned with the harassment of journalists and attacks on the news media.
 
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Does the CBC think it’s fighting online antisemitism by applying the “extremist” label to one of the world’s most prominent Jewish media figures? Surely, if Brodie Fenlon is taken at his word, treating Shapiro this way is not in line with the CBC’s goal of curbing harassment against journalists and promoting trust in journalism.

On Tuesday, Shapiro responded to CBC’s report by accusing the network of being politically biased, tweeting that the CBC “says I’m radicalizing young men, but can’t name any radical views I supposedly promote. They merely want to equate conservatism with extremism in order to silence those who dissent from Leftist orthodoxy.”


Yet, by attacking Shapiro, the CBC is targeting a commentator who has been on the receiving end of more online antisemitism than any one else in the American news media. According to a 2016 study produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Shapiro is the most-targeted Jewish journalist in the United States. The rest at the above Link…

 
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Does the CBC think it’s fighting online antisemitism by applying the “extremist” label to one of the world’s most prominent Jewish media figures?

Except that Shapiro is an extremist. The fact he's Jewish doesn't matter.

Surely, if Brodie Fenlon is taken at his word, treating Shapiro this way is not in line with the CBC’s goal of curbing harassment against journalists and promoting trust in journalism.

On Tuesday, Shapiro responded to CBC’s report by accusing the network of being politically biased, tweeting that the CBC “says I’m radicalizing young men, but can’t name any radical views I supposedly promote. They merely want to equate conservatism with extremism in order to silence those who dissent from Leftist orthodoxy.”


He is radicalizing young men, and people in general. Have you seen anything he's put out? I have (sadly). Outside of his needing to talk so fast it's like he's in a race against some imaginary foe, the stuff he says is in line with Alex Jones, Hannity and other right wing lunatics.

Yet, by attacking Shapiro, the CBC is targeting a commentator who has been on the receiving end of more online antisemitism than any one else in the American news media. According to a 2016 study produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Shapiro is the most-targeted Jewish journalist in the United States. The rest at the above Link…


Maybe he's targeted because of his views, not his Jewish religion?

But being Jewish is a quick way to call people out or make people 'afraid' to say anything against him... cause if you do go against him, you're "anti-semetic".

From Baby Boo's twitter.
"Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro



According to the woke Left, if you don't believe that everything in life can be redefined, you're a bigot. You're just supposed to agree with the "experts" that chopping off a minor's penis & forming a fake vagina will make him happy for the rest of his life. Dangerous nonsense."

Since he's outright lying here, I'd say yeah, he's spouting 'radical' views.

Sorry Benny, you're a radical right wing nutbar.


BTW, here's the CBC article link.


Interesting that it says "
Reid Brown remembers the first time he got sucked in by the algorithm — he was just 13, watching videos after school when YouTube started pushing him to controversial content.

As time went on, the videos became increasingly extreme, says Brown, now 21.

"It started out pretty benign," he recalls. "You're watching something about teen fashion and then the next thing you know, the algorithm would push you to a Ben Shapiro video."

Though Shapiro describes himself as a conservative political commentator, his views are controversial — and some are outright discriminatory. He's suggested, for example, that transgender people suffer from a "mental disorder."

But he has a combined 9.4 million subscribers and followers on YouTube and Twitter, many of whom are young people, like Brown was when he got pushed in Shapiro's direction.

While Shapiro is not affiliated with any hate group, experts in media, gender studies and the radicalization of young men say that the commentator's content is prevalent in online extremist communities. "

So it's not exactly CBC calling him these things, rather it's others.

But it's easier to blame the CBC cause it reported on the story.
 
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My fear is he will do as the two before him and throw the West under the bus to buy votes in OntariOWE and Quebec.
Always a risk - but he grew up mentored by Harper, and living in the west. I suspect that we'll be pleasantly surprised when the time comes for the acid test. Obviously he's going to have to appeal to the east to get votes but i don't think it'll be at the expense of the west.
 
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It’s a bizarre decision for the CBC to smear Shapiro as an extremist, because the organization claims to be concerned with the harassment of journalists and attacks on the news media.
Not so bizarre. It's in keeping with the left's attitude of "Only journalism/facts/opinons that WE approve of are REAL journalism/facts/opinions".

I've heard Shapiro talk about trans people many times and his position is hardly radical. Nor is it factually inaccurate. Nor is it anything close to what the more radical speaker's on trans people say.

The CBC is the intolerant group - and that's be fine i guess if that's what they want if THEY were paying the bills, but if TAXPAYERS are footing the bill then bias and bigotry like that is NOT ok. Just defund them now.
 
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The Liberals should be worried if Trudeau stays​


For aficionados of Canadian politics, an admittedly declining species, the House of Commons matchup of Justin Trudeau and Pierre Poilievre is the main event of the fall season.
For the first time as Prime Minister, Mr. Trudeau faces a Leader of the Official Opposition who possesses communication skills that rival his own. Mr. Trudeau benefited from comparisons with previous Conservative Party leaders Andrew Scheer and Erin O’Toole, neither of whom could hold an audience. In Mr. Poilievre, he faces an opponent who can draw a crowd.

That has to be a major cause for concern in Liberal ranks. Mr. Trudeau won three consecutive federal elections against Tory leaders who were relatively weak or, in the case of former prime minister Stephen Harper, irretrievably weakened. After seven years in power, and a series of scandals on par with those of Mr. Harper’s government, Mr. Trudeau’s own popularity has plummeted, and his signature sunny ways are seen by many Canadians as inauthentic or worse.
Two polls released this week appear to confirm the worst fears of many Liberals. The Trudeau government’s sharp leftward turn, underscored by its alliance with the New Democratic Party, seems to have persuaded many progressive voters to shift their support to the real deal. Surveys from both Nanos and Leger showed the Conservatives in the lead with the Liberals losing ground to a resurgent NDP. That is a political scenario made in Tory heaven.
Typically, the Tories win when the progressive vote gets split between the Liberals and NDP. Mr. Trudeau has won three elections by minimizing this split, in part by persuading enough progressives that only the Liberals can block a Conservative victory. That strategy has worked particularly well in Quebec, where the Liberals won 35 seats in 2021.
If Mr. Trudeau remains leader, the Liberals are likely to resort to this strategy again in the next election. But it is far from clear if this tactic would be enough for them to eke out even a minority victory next time. After almost a decade of Trudeau rule, voters will be increasingly open to considering the alternatives. Centrist voters will look at Mr. Poilievre.

What they see will depend on whether the Conservative Leader succeeds between now and the next election in crafting a credible image as prime-minister-in-waiting. If he sticks to the script he used to win the Tory leadership, he will be a much easier adversary for the Liberals to define.
Mr. Poilievre began his leadership tenure by sending out a fundraising email to party members that did, indeed, stick with the script. “The Liberals want to stop me from becoming prime minister because they know I will get rid of their gatekeepers, defund the CBC, abolish mandates and make Canada the freest country on Earth so you can take back control of your life,” he said in the email.

The steps Mr. Poilievre takes in the coming weeks, both inside and outside the House of Commons, will determine whether he can move beyond such empty sound bites. He offered precious little in the way of concrete policy proposals during the leadership campaign. Based on his rhetoric, you would have to conclude that, as prime minister, he would undertake a purge of the country’s institutions so brutal and indiscriminate that Ottawa itself might cease to exist.
That will go over well with Freedom Convoy supporters for whom the middle ground does not exist. Unfortunately, their sense of frustration was stoked by a Liberal government that chose to politicize public health measures. But Mr. Poilievre cannot just count on convoy supporters to win the next election.

It appears to have taken Mr. Poilievre’s election as Tory Leader for the Liberals to recognize that the mandatory use of the ArriveCan app and COVID-19 vaccination requirements for international travellers had outlived their usefulness, even though most reasonable Canadians understood that months ago. Mr. Poilievre will claim credit, but the government’s move to scrap the measures is simply a victory for common sense, and science.
Rapid response has never been the Trudeau government’s strong suit. Except for its pandemic support programs – which were rolled out in record time and with remarkably few bureaucratic snafus, considering the unprecedented scale of the operation – everything this government does takes a very long time and yields underwhelming results. Big decisions get endlessly postponed. On foreign policy, Ottawa waits to see what other G7 and NATO countries do or say first.
It is hard to see anything changing if Mr. Trudeau sticks around. He, not Mr. Poilievre, could turn out to be the best weapon the Conservatives have got.
 
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Except that Shapiro is an extremist. The fact he's Jewish doesn't matter.
Except that he's not an extremist.
He is radicalizing young men, and people in general. Have you seen anything he's put out? I have (sadly). Outside of his needing to talk so fast it's like he's in a race against some imaginary foe, the stuff he says is in line with Alex Jones, Hannity and other right wing lunatics.
Nah, not even close.
Maybe he's targeted because of his views, not his Jewish religion?
Nah, lefties hate Jews as one can see by all their anti-Israel bullshit.
But being Jewish is a quick way to call people out or make people 'afraid' to say anything against him... cause if you do go against him, you're "anti-semetic".
But screaming racist is a quick way of trying to shut up anyone who disagrees with you.
From Baby Boo's twitter.
"Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro



According to the woke Left, if you don't believe that everything in life can be redefined, you're a bigot. You're just supposed to agree with the "experts" that chopping off a minor's penis & forming a fake vagina will make him happy for the rest of his life. Dangerous nonsense."

Since he's outright lying here, I'd say yeah, he's spouting 'radical' views.
What, exactly is he lying about, other than exaggerating a tad? The left is trying to redefine everything and if you don't agree with their re-definitions they call you racist or sexist or whatever other unsubstantiated insult they can hurl at you.
Sorry Benny, you're a radical right wing nutbar.
IF you think he's aradical right-winger, you're a radical left-winger.
BTW, here's the CBC article link.


Interesting that it says "
Reid Brown remembers the first time he got sucked in by the algorithm — he was just 13, watching videos after school when YouTube started pushing him to controversial content.
So you're blaming Shapiro for Youtube's algorithms?
As time went on, the videos became increasingly extreme, says Brown, now 21.
Hmmm a Gen Z'er who's been brainwashed by leftist bullshit since his first day of daycare thinks someone who doesn't think like he does is an extremist.
"It started out pretty benign," he recalls. "You're watching something about teen fashion and then the next thing you know, the algorithm would push you to a Ben Shapiro video."
Again, blaming Shapiro for some reason for Youtube's methods.
Though Shapiro describes himself as a conservative political commentator, his views are controversial — and some are outright discriminatory. He's suggested, for example, that transgender people suffer from a "mental disorder."
Many of them do.
But he has a combined 9.4 million subscribers and followers on YouTube and Twitter, many of whom are young people, like Brown was when he got pushed in Shapiro's direction.
Still blaming Shapiro for Youtube's practices.
While Shapiro is not affiliated with any hate group, experts in media, gender studies and the radicalization of young men say that the commentator's content is prevalent in online extremist communities. "
So, leftist fucktards whose expertise is highly subjective. Belonging to Antifa isn't radical but actually understanding that men can't get pregnant makes one the worst kind of extremist apparently.
So it's not exactly CBC calling him these things, rather it's others.
Yes, it was other leftist shit bags who can't stand it when someone doesn't think like they do.
But it's easier to blame the CBC cause it reported on the story.
The CBC only does pro-leftist, anti-Conservative "news". It'll jump on any bullshit leftist propaganda and if there isn't any that's relevant, they'll make it up. Ya know, like how the CBC intentionally disinformed the country that Russians and extremists in the US were funding the Freedom Convoy? They lost every last shred of credibility they might have had left after that.
If the CBC did anything this year, it was proving they are nothing more than the Liberal Party's propaganda unit and left absolutely no doubt about it.

Another example of the CBC trying to engage in a little social engineering. During the World Juniors they had a headline that read, "Canadian Juniors set to win the Championship....but do you care?" Then waffled on about Hockey Canada and the team from 2002 (2006?) as if this year's team had anything to do with it. They basically crapped on the kids.
But when the women were poised to win their Cup, the CBC couldn't simper hard enough about it. Conveniently forgetting that women's hockey falls under Hockey Canada as well.
You and I are given no choice but to fund that shit.
 

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You and I are given no choice but to fund that shit.
And that's where the problem lies. IF they want to be a complete left wing bag of crap, and paying customers are willing to pay money and fund that left wing bag of crap, then that's fine. But to be bigoted and one sided on the public dime.. that's not ok.

"defund" is not the same as "Cancel". IF they can make a go of it with direct support from the lefties who favour their crap then have at it. They'll get that chance. But suddenly they'll have to actually appeal to enough audience that they make the money necessary to carry on. And i suspect that won't be possible being a left wing bag of crap. Left wingers don't like paying for their own content.

Chances are cbc radio might survive and they might keep a news show going or the like, but that's about it. And it wouldn't surprise me to see their television wing die altogether. Which gives you some idea how much actual support they have.
 
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The CBC’s hypocritical treatment of American columnist and podcaster Ben Shapiro is the most recent example of why Canada’s public broadcaster is in need of significant reforms.

On Sept. 19, the CBC published a news report that questioned whether Shapiro is “a conservative political commentator,” despite the fact that such a descriptor is the most accurate and objective way to describe his work. Instead, in an article about the online radicalization of young men, the CBC suggested that Shapiro is an extremist, without presenting any evidence.


“While Shapiro is not affiliated with any hate group,” CBC’s Brock Wilson admitted, “experts in media, gender studies and the radicalization of young men say that the commentator’s content is prevalent in online extremist communities.”

Earlier this year, CBC News editor in chief Brodie Fenlon wrote, “It’s important to understand how the growing intolerance of journalism is playing out in this country and making it more challenging for us to report the news.” Fenlon also stated that, “The erosion of trust in journalism has a real-world impact on the people who do it, and by extension, you, the people we serve.”

Yet, by attacking Shapiro, the CBC is targeting a commentator who has been on the receiving end of more online antisemitism than any one else in the American news media. According to a 2016 study produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Shapiro is the most-targeted Jewish journalist in the United States.

It’s a bizarre decision for the CBC to smear Shapiro as an extremist, because the organization claims to be concerned with the harassment of journalists and attacks on the news media.
If the lame stream media told the truth once in a while instead of spinning every story, or inventing news perhaps more people would trust them.
 

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If the lame stream media told the truth once in a while instead of spinning every story, or inventing news perhaps more people would trust them.
Yeah - but would anyone buy their paper? That's what they fear, if they don't 'emotionally charge' ever story no one will be interested. They're not "reporters" anymore, they're entertainers.
 
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I must be getting old. I still think of newspapers as a source of information. If I want shit, I can just go out to the barn.
 
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I must be getting old. I still think of newspapers as a source of information. If I want shit, I can just go out to the barn.

“If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.”​


― Mark Twain
 
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The NDP are very concerned that the CPC is going to take their votes. And honestly i don't think the attack style ads this early on are going to help them. Attack style ads don't usually cause others to vote for you - they tend to be more effective in supressing the other guy's voters and getting them to stay home. So they're useful around an election. But at this point that kind of attack ad is just going to ring a little hollow. Especially if pollievre keeps up with the positive videos about what he would like to see change.

The problem is Jaggers can't really actually DO anything - his horse is firmly hitched to the Liberals right now so he can't really stand up to them. Where as PP can get in their face and hold them to account.

Although honestly one of the best things he could do is get out there and keep up with the same rallies he did during his leadership.
 
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The CBC’s hypocritical treatment of American columnist and podcaster Ben Shapiro is the most recent example of why Canada’s public broadcaster is in need of significant reforms.

On Sept. 19, the CBC published a news report that questioned whether Shapiro is “a conservative political commentator,” despite the fact that such a descriptor is the most accurate and objective way to describe his work. Instead, in an article about the online radicalization of young men, the CBC suggested that Shapiro is an extremist, without presenting any evidence.


“While Shapiro is not affiliated with any hate group,” CBC’s Brock Wilson admitted, “experts in media, gender studies and the radicalization of young men say that the commentator’s content is prevalent in online extremist communities.”

Earlier this year, CBC News editor in chief Brodie Fenlon wrote, “It’s important to understand how the growing intolerance of journalism is playing out in this country and making it more challenging for us to report the news.” Fenlon also stated that, “The erosion of trust in journalism has a real-world impact on the people who do it, and by extension, you, the people we serve.”

Yet, by attacking Shapiro, the CBC is targeting a commentator who has been on the receiving end of more online antisemitism than any one else in the American news media. According to a 2016 study produced by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Shapiro is the most-targeted Jewish journalist in the United States.

It’s a bizarre decision for the CBC to smear Shapiro as an extremist, because the organization claims to be concerned with the harassment of journalists and attacks on the news media.
Which explains to me that they have no clue as to why it's "...more challenging for us to report the news" because that's what they don't do - is report the news. I'm surprised they're so oblivious of this. People aren't watching/reading because they simply don't believe what they're hearing. Did they ever stop to consider why?
 

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Which explains to me that they have no clue as to why it's "...more challenging for us to report the news" because that's what they don't do - is report the news. I'm surprised they're so oblivious of this. People aren't watching/reading because they simply don't believe what they're hearing. Did they ever stop to consider why?

Funny, listening to CBC sometimes during the Conservative Leadership race, they had LOTS of Cons on.

And did okay reporting the news.

Are you sure you don't like CBC for being, I don't know, not kowtowing to your side of beliefs enough?
 

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Funny, listening to CBC sometimes during the Conservative Leadership race, they had LOTS of Cons on.
OH you mean that race where it got really bitter and they got to comment on how mean what PP said was or how they felt about CHarest (whom they wanted to win?) - SUUUURRREEE, LOTS of coverage there :)
And did okay reporting the news.
Well they didn't actually. As usual there were a number of stories which could have been embarrasing to the liberals that went unreported. That's a pretty old trick of theirs -
Are you sure you don't like CBC for being, I don't know, not kowtowing to your side of beliefs enough?
My belief that reporting paid for by the public should be fair, equal, balanced and comprehensive? Actually - that's the problem in a nutshell.
 
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