There were people who saw it coming, but they were treated like idiots because they were swimming upstream.
Lou Dobbs steps down - Finally -
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I don't know too many doctors paid salaries, but there are a few around town.
Pathetic.
In hindsight there were a lot of analysts who warned that the big companies would prevail and most would fall, which is what happened. But everyone had blinders on buying up anything .com.
These days there are many care provider models in Ontario, a salaried doctor is one of them. It is not exactly a salary, but more a capitation payment. The doctor gets a certain amount per patient on his roster per year. This regardless of whether he sees the patient ten times during the year, or not at all.
Still a great majority of doctors are not on a salary, but now there are more of them than there were before. My wife is on a mix of the two. She gets paid per service provided, but she also gets a small capitation payment every month.
Yes, I did see that on occasion, but generally the guest was being utterly ridiculous in my opinion.
Resurrecting a thread...
Lou Dobbs, American Hypocrite | The Nation
In case you couldn't guess, he has employed illegal immigrants.
Lou Dobbs, American Hypocrite | The Nation
In case you couldn't guess, he has employed illegal immigrants.
And it takes him a whole five minutes to get the writer of the article to admit that not he nor his company has directly hired illegals...
Listen to around 5:40 when she finaly admits it....the rest is semantics
YouTube - Lou speaks with Isabel MacDonald
Listen to around 5:40 when she finaly admits it....the rest is semantics
YouTube - Lou speaks with Isabel MacDonald
I watched Lou for several years and that's certainly not the way he came across to me. I'd be far more suspicious of the source than I would be of Lou.
He was always patriotic to the U.S. sometimes to a fault and not always realistic...............but honest as the day is long.
Lou Dobbs used to heap scorn on the Government for using contractors that hire illegal immigrants...Dobbs did the same thing.
It's pure semantics to insert language like "directly hire"...
I certainly don't have too much faith in someone who evades a straightforward question for over five minutes......
Sounds like a reporting hatchet job....
Lou Dobbs flap reflects prevalence of undocumented workers in equestrian world, some in Wellington say
Maybe this will put this bullsh*t to rest. :smile:
Maybe this will put this bullsh*t to rest. :smile:
As an old news guy I kind of admired Lou. He was
an enigma, he supported American workers yet he
was much more to the right on other issues. The
biggest problem he had is that he was not willing
to think about compromise when it came to the
issue of immigration. Some say he hated Latinos
but that is not true, in fact his wife is a Mexican
American. Dobbs was against illegal immigration
from anywhere. When you think about it, if it were
Canada, why should people come here and take
advantage of medicare, pensions, the education
system, welfare, and seniors extended care.
You and I paid our dues as Canadians and if the
immigrants pay theirs they are entitled to the
benefits, if they came here illegally and shared
they would weaken the programs for those who
paid their share and are entitled.
I maintain Dobbs did nothing wrong in the cross
boarder debate. I do not however agree with
racial profiling and singling out those who are
citizens. Dobbs is both left and right and that
bothers almost everyone. Dobbs was in favour
of American companies staying here and not
going overseas. There is clearly two side to this
guy. I didn't like his initial support for Bush Though.
an enigma, he supported American workers yet he
was much more to the right on other issues. The
biggest problem he had is that he was not willing
to think about compromise when it came to the
issue of immigration. Some say he hated Latinos
but that is not true, in fact his wife is a Mexican
American. Dobbs was against illegal immigration
from anywhere. When you think about it, if it were
Canada, why should people come here and take
advantage of medicare, pensions, the education
system, welfare, and seniors extended care.
You and I paid our dues as Canadians and if the
immigrants pay theirs they are entitled to the
benefits, if they came here illegally and shared
they would weaken the programs for those who
paid their share and are entitled.
I maintain Dobbs did nothing wrong in the cross
boarder debate. I do not however agree with
racial profiling and singling out those who are
citizens. Dobbs is both left and right and that
bothers almost everyone. Dobbs was in favour
of American companies staying here and not
going overseas. There is clearly two side to this
guy. I didn't like his initial support for Bush Though.
Sounds like Lou's mouth was writing cheques his record can't cash. It's on record, that Lou Dobbs has chastised the government and other employers who hire firms that employ illegal immigrants, and the reporter said that in the first paragraph of the article. She said that again when Lou asks about his company directly hiring illegal immigrants, and for the record that was after less than two minutes of being on the air with Dobbs.
For those paying attention, what Dobbs did is called moving goal posts.
A person should ensure they have the full story (which is not obtainable from the media) before denigrating Lou.
Well, when one deals in absolute terms like Dobbs does, one paints them self into a corner. It's not unfair at all to call him a hypocrite for doing what he has criticized others for doing, nor is it unfair to call him on his moving goal posts.
Alternatively, one could also say that a full story is not obtained by simply asking a contractor if their workers are all legal. It is Lou Dobbs after all, do you expect to get a contract if you admit to hiring illegals?
Yeah right.
99.9% of people in this world do things they criticise others for. Is it not possible he did something unintentionally or that he didn't know he was doing. Here's one scenario- before a guys leaves on holidays he hires a local certified roofer to replace his roof and then leaves. The roofer hires people off the street to help with the work.
Right. My issue isn't with 99.9% of people, it's with the portion of that 99.9% who refuse to acknowledge their hypocrisy and modify them self when they are being contradictory.
Not according to Lou, and that's the problem.
There's a million scenarios...it's not the scenario that is the problem. Lou advocates for consequences in this situation, yet when someone documents it happening with his contract, he pushes it aside, casts aspersions on the persons motivation, or splits hairs, or outright denies.
Another right wing scaremonger gone - at least for now. It is just possible of course that he will join the comedy team at FOX News.
Was he right wing, yes was he a scare monger I question that.
Dobbs didn't want illegal immigrants streaming across the US
boarder. I for one don't want to see illegals coming to Canada.
I think all those without papers or a paper trail should be put on
the first boat out, no hearings, no court and no special treatment.
There are people from all over the world trying to come here and
there are thousands who follow the rules, it takes time but time
is the legal way things are done.
Dobbs didn't say he hated Mexicans, in fact his wife, as I said
before is of Mexican American heritage.
I am not defending him, I didn't agree with many of his positions,
however on the business of closing down the boarders and deporting
illegals I agree. I also agree companies should not be shipping jobs
to the third world. We need to hold the good jobs here and put an
end to this world trade slide that puts our workers out of work and
lowers our standard of living.
Dobbs didn't want illegal immigrants streaming across the US
boarder. I for one don't want to see illegals coming to Canada.
I think all those without papers or a paper trail should be put on
the first boat out, no hearings, no court and no special treatment.
There are people from all over the world trying to come here and
there are thousands who follow the rules, it takes time but time
is the legal way things are done.
Dobbs didn't say he hated Mexicans, in fact his wife, as I said
before is of Mexican American heritage.
I am not defending him, I didn't agree with many of his positions,
however on the business of closing down the boarders and deporting
illegals I agree. I also agree companies should not be shipping jobs
to the third world. We need to hold the good jobs here and put an
end to this world trade slide that puts our workers out of work and
lowers our standard of living.
[QUOTE I also agree companies should not be shipping jobs
to the third world. We need to hold the good jobs here and put an
end to this world trade slide that puts our workers out of work and
lowers our standard of living.[/QUOTE]
You're fighting a losing battle there. It's our standard of living that causes such disparity between rich and poor.
Labour is no different from any other commodity. When you buy widgets you buy them from whomever can supply
them cheapest. Same thing with labour. We've been on a Merry go round since after the War & these geniuses
like the illustrious Jim Sinclair hasn't been able to figure out what's wrong. If you try something once and it doesn't
work there's about a 75% chance it's not going to and if you try it twice the same way and it doesn't work there's
about a 99% chance it won't. :lol:
to the third world. We need to hold the good jobs here and put an
end to this world trade slide that puts our workers out of work and
lowers our standard of living.[/QUOTE]
You're fighting a losing battle there. It's our standard of living that causes such disparity between rich and poor.
Labour is no different from any other commodity. When you buy widgets you buy them from whomever can supply
them cheapest. Same thing with labour. We've been on a Merry go round since after the War & these geniuses
like the illustrious Jim Sinclair hasn't been able to figure out what's wrong. If you try something once and it doesn't
work there's about a 75% chance it's not going to and if you try it twice the same way and it doesn't work there's
about a 99% chance it won't. :lol: