Lost Roman legion Found?? - DNA in China

Goober

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What digging?

There is no dig associated with these meaningless tests.

The fact is that the ebb and flow of human genes is never ending.

Well Bil - I guess the flow of knowledge stopped before you read the links.

By the way. Have you been a keeping regular like ya know. It is important that the flow does continue.



Archeologists plan to conduct digs in the region, along the ancient Silk Route, to search for remains of forts or other structures built by the fabled army.
"We hope to prove the legend by digging and discovering more evidence of China's early contacts with the Roman Empire," Yuan Honggeng, the head of a newly-established Italian Studies Centre at Lanzhou University in Gansu province, told the China Daily newspaper.
The genetic tests have leant weight to the theory that Roman legionaries settled in the area in the first century BC after fleeing a disastrous battle.
The clash took place in 53BC between an army led by Marcus Crassus, a Roman general, and a larger force of Parthians, from what is now Iran, bringing to an abrupt halt the Roman Empire's eastwards expansion.
 

Trotz

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If you read into the Mongols and Tatars,

especially from the Chinese perspective, you would be shocked to find out that they were considered Caucasian. The Khan himself was red haired and green eyed, according to multiple sources. Russian histography is also another good source, despite almost a quarter of Russian nobles being of Mongol and Tatar descent, there was hardly any mentions of exotic appearances among them (you would think that dark complexioned, flat nosed and broad cheekbone individuals would painfully stand out amongst a population of blond haired, blue-eyed Russians...!)

A more likely explanation was that the Mongols, since they conquered all of China and Central Asia, simply intermarried with those individuals and were brought back to Mongolia (the epicentre of that short-lived Empire). Which I suppose is a double negative, as while it might be a dubious claim that the Mongols were ''really European", on the other hand, it shows that the Mongols were extremely tolerant (which they were) towards other religions and peoples (at least, after they were done genociding that was).
 

Bar Sinister

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Like many theories of this sort the evidence is pretty thin. The Roman Empire traded widely at the height of its powerful and influence. In fact so much silk was imported from China that one of the emperors attempted to halt the trade due to the drain on the empire's reserves of gold. It is entirely possible that the DNA in question is the result of a party of traders from the empire and not soldiers at all. Short of finding a complete set of legionnaire armour it is difficult to connect this find to some lost legion.
 

bill barilko

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The Khan himself was red haired and green eyed, according to multiple sources.
What a load of bull-have you ever met a Mongolian/are you drunk or trolling?

Have you been a keeping regular like ya know. It is important that the flow does continue.
It bugs the sh!t out of you that I posted a link that shoots your balloon of bull back to earth doesn't it!?

The fact is that the Italian govt already paid for flunkies to dig and dig and dig but they found ZIP.
 

Goober

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What a load of bull-have you ever met a Mongolian/are you drunk or trolling?


It bugs the sh!t out of you that I posted a link that shoots your balloon of bull back to earth doesn't it!?

The fact is that the Italian govt already paid for flunkies to dig and dig and dig but they found ZIP.

Not in the least - It does not bother me.

What should bother you is your closed mind.

Some examples - Egyptian digs - Where they found many items of interest in areas where they should not have been

Amazon Jungle - For decade, hundreds of years archaeologists thought that the area had limited populations over the past 2 K years. Now they are finding evidence that there may have been cities with populations well over 100,000 people. Now we can also look at that German fellow who proved the existence of Troy.

Really you should look at the closed mind of yours, nah, get someone else to do it as your mind and opinion is set in stone. But even a stone changes over time. Can you?
 

YukonJack

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Just take look at all the champions of the so-called African-American causes.

Can you in clears conscience, looking at them, claim that they are BLACK???

There has been interbreeding thru history everywhere in the world.
 

YukonJack

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A professor asked students to name the worst dictators in the world who were not even the nationality/ancestry they claimed to represent.

One student said: Alexander The Great, he was not Greek, he was Macedonian.

The next student recalled: Napoleon, he was not French, he was Corsican.

Then, the next one said: Stalin, he was not Russian, he was Georgian.

Then the next: Hitler was not German, he was Austrian.

Then the Canadian student spoke up: Trudeau was not Canadian, he was a Qubecois.
 

Goober

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Aren't Hungarians a lost Mongolian horde? Wow, whodathunkit!

We are all related. Ah more Christmas present to buy. And I thought I was finished. That is why we have Santa Claus.

Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the field of human genetics, Mitochondrial Eve refers to the most recent common matrilineal ancestor from whom all living humans are descended. Passed down from mother to offspring, all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in every living person is directly descended from hers. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived thousands of years apart.

Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In human genetics, Y-chromosomal Adam (Y-MRCA) is the theoretical most recent common ancestor (MRCA) from whom all living people are descended patrilineally (tracing back along the paternal lines of their family tree only). Y-chromosomal Adam probably lived between 90,000 and 60,000 years ago in the African continent and is the male counterpart of Mitochondrial Eve, although he probably lived later than she did, possibly 50,000 to 80,000 years later.[1]
 

Cliffy

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The common DNA that links all humans is alien. They genetically engineered Homo Sapien Sapien from earlier Homo Sapien, mixing in their own DNA to create a race of slaves, then insured their obedience using religion based on them being our god and creator (which they are!). Yahweh was not only from another planet but he was a psychopathic, insecure, jealous and vengeful schmuck. Does this not explain the Bible, Torah and the Quran's nasty god story?
 

Goober

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The common DNA that links all humans is alien. They genetically engineered Homo Sapien Sapien from earlier Homo Sapien, mixing in their own DNA to create a race of slaves, then insured their obedience using religion based on them being our god and creator (which they are!). Yahweh was not only from another planet but he was a psychopathic, insecure, jealous and vengeful schmuck. Does this not explain the Bible, Torah and the Quran's nasty god story?

So you watch Star Gate and look upon it as a fact based documentary?
 

ironsides

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The common DNA that links all humans is alien. They genetically engineered Homo Sapien Sapien from earlier Homo Sapien, mixing in their own DNA to create a race of slaves, then insured their obedience using religion based on them being our god and creator (which they are!). Yahweh was not only from another planet but he was a psychopathic, insecure, jealous and vengeful schmuck. Does this not explain the Bible, Torah and the Quran's nasty god story?

You don't believe in the Ancients? So we are just globs of stellar goo that managed to evolve.