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He should have known better than to publish the first draft.
It reads better as a 'matter of fact' kind of statements and He loves lists, 11teen 'and's' in 1 verse.
Still it cuts down the number of words you have to pay attention to and the order might not be crucial to the context of all the words. Another 'trait' is He puts things in order of importance rather than linear time. The two bruise verse is a good example as the head bruise is mentioned before the heel bruise while reality is showing that the heel bruise is a completed deal and the other bruise is a work in progress. The 2nd bruise is the most important as it marks 100% done rather than 50% done. 'It is finished.' while on the cross finished all things to do with that one bruise. When, 'It is done.' is said as the last vial is poured out then that is complete and the garden can be restored to its former glory.

That He got it done consistently by 40 different writers is a natural fluke. Well the book wasn't meant to be the last gathering tool on the list so it will be interesting to see which version is more accurate once some hindsight is available.
 

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The style of writing in the bible is consistent because it was rewritten by a bunch of pissed off Brits over a 1000 years after the original was written. Of course it looks like one person wrote the whole thing. The authors collaborated to make it look that way. Man, you can be so thick and gullible sometimes.

 

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Jesus chooses his flock. Perhaps, something to consider before slandering the Word of God. Jesus specifically states that he chooses his sheep. RED LETTER BIBLE I have full confidence in the Living God to preserve his Word throughout the ages.

Matthew 11
“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

A thorough search of world libraries and historic documents is not needed. Jesus spells it out for us and in such a gentle, compassionate invitation. "my yoke is easy and my burden light". Again, that does not suggest we are to exhume archeological evidence and commit ourselves to exhausative doctorate study before we can conclude that Jesus and His Word (BIBLE) are trustworthy.
 

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Little busier than I expected so a slight delay in getting to the rest of your post.\
It should have gone to rewrite to correct factual errors, fix inconsistencies, and remove immoral advice.
Something like writing a book that is in an imperfect world and it contains some errors itself? I would agree it has errors if the mandate was it follow the Ge:3:15 format a little closer. As it is we can read and sort at about the same speed as far as which passage belongs to which bruise. Any clearer than that and slipping the bruise to the heel past as easily as it was just means the other bruise isn't going to be any more difficult.
Obviously the individual issues would have to be examined on a 1 to 1 kind of way. It shouldn't take 20 pages to decide if 22ft of rain falling on high hills and mountains would fall as snow and that would explain why it was 5 months before they could be seen again. If it takes 20 pages then that is what it takes. If that much attention to detail is available then wher is it when 24 passages are put on the table with the question, one event or many events? That gives you some parameters of what the subject is about. In a perfect book all the fine details would be there to finish the picture, as it is they are the 'random' verses you find around the Bible that are between passages or something like that.

Then you wouldn't have wasted so much time and energy trying to reconcile the irreconcilable.
Not really, your conclusion after doing some examination is such and such and by conclusion after doing some examination of the same text is such and such and they don't match. There is a reason for that and it isn't me Sherlocking this without having a brain and it was a hobby kind of thing that was done through chat rooms. I got a point or two out of each different discussion and modified my outlook as needed.
The book got more consistent rather than less consistent, granted saying to yourself that the cross verses from all 4 Gospels have to blend together then you have a bit of reading and re-reading to do because that isn't something that just pops out at you. However once all the material is in one place the story line can be put together using a variety of parameters and no conflicts pop up. It may not be the ultimate proof you seek but it certainly makes the story a better read and where is the harm in that except the better the read the less likely that 40 strangers did a conspiracy to write something that would mess up the next 200 generations at least.

On what possible basis can you justify believing that "The Bible was written by God to tell people what was going to happen?
Part of it would be based on being able to use a computer to look up things like 'day of the lord' and then follow through on doing a close examination of those various passages and then blending all that together so no strange verses are left out that have no meaning. Just the old earth theory and the exapansion of that for the new earth verses is starting to cover issues we would call multi-verses (there has to be a pun in there somewhere) and shepherds and boat-hands shouldn't have had that info.

" And be aware that citing the Bible in support of itself is not a valid argument, it's the fallacy of self reference. Why do you think that claim is true?
Before you reject what it promotes you first have to examine what it says and then conclude what it promotes. Since you more or less reject the OT version then you should be able to look at the area today and look at a verse that says they will be growing grapes then you 'might rightly conclude' a change in the weather would be needed. Today a mini ice-age would bring the moisture needed a lot better than all the pumps and dams we could build. If that change takes place there then areas to the east and south should also get a similar change in climate and become just as productive. All without God having to go 'poof' even once.

As for wasted time over my working years, I was efficient at what I did to the point I was 'above expert' for that level and that meant I could find better ways to do the same ole task and that was always a bonus to the company without it costing them any coin. I'm not ready to start regretting things like that.
Choices of residences, without a doubt, but winding back time is one of those impossible things that will stay that way for some time, or so I guess.
 

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The emblem of the goddess catching the Son of God as a fish in her net would dramatize the simple fact of incarnation, to begin with, as the feminine is matter (its symbol is water) and matter catches the incarnating souls in its meshes. But as the ordeal of life in the sea of matter eventually lifts the captured souls out of this realm of incarnate life into the world of spirit (air), even so also the act of fishing emblemed the release of souls from their captivity in the body, the "Red Sea." The fish floating about in the water is the most forceful symbol of organic life immersed in inorganic matter, and that is precisely what the fish symbol most cogently portrayed. A fish in the sea almost shouts at us the fact of our being divine souls, the product of organic evolution, immersed and floating about in the sea of inorganic atomic matter. A phrase from an archaic formulary, expressing concisely the basic idea of souls incarnated in matter, referred to them as "suffering under the dense sea" of matter. Perhaps the future stability of the edifice of the Christian religion may be severely shaken from the startling revelation that the Greek word for "sea" is pontos, and for "dense" is piletos, which would take the form in Latin of "Pontius Pilate." We can only ask: can this etymology be the origin of the creed's phrase: "He suffered under Pontius Pilate?"
But another line of research leads us to further amazing disclosures in this "fishing expedition." It has been shown earlier that the ancient original Egyptian short name of the primordial undifferentiated sea of being, so to say our
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"empty space,"THE RED SEA

The book got more consistent rather than less consistent, granted saying to yourself that the cross verses from all 4 Gospels have to blend together then you have a bit of reading and re-reading to do because that isn't something that just pops out at you. However once all the material is in one place the story line can be put together using a variety of parameters and no conflicts pop up. It may not be the ultimate proof you seek but it certainly makes the story a better read and where is the harm in that except the better the read the less likely that 40 strangers did a conspiracy to write something that would mess up the next 200 generations at least.

"The book got more consistent rather than less consistent,"

The book was not altered in any way by your involvement. That would constitute a miracle.

less likely that 40 strangers did a conspiracy to write something that would mess up the next 200 generations at least.

The original written material covering every word of the Bible was contained in the Egyptian Book of The Dead and numerous other tomes which predate the alleged birth of Jesus by tens of thousands of years and yet it is maintained by the big church to have arrived among mankind in a little village called Bethlehem or Bethal or the House of Bread which cannot be found today because it exists in the Zodiac and no where else. As far as conspiracy goes, the present written Bible is the father of all conspiracies. Among the learned the conspiracy is well understood.

DB( my last religious copy & paste)



For since by man came death, by man came
also the resurrection of the dead.
St. Paul.







THE LOST KEY TO​
THE SCRIPTURES​
The likelihood of a favorable acceptance of the astounding revelation to be made in this essay will be considerably heightened if the epochal disclosure is preceded by sufficient prefatory exegesis to present it in its proper "frame of reference." So incredible is the true esoteric elucidation of the lost meaning of the Scriptures of Christianity that the immediate reaction will generate the demand to know what historical circumstances or developments could have led in the first place to so fateful a loss of vital knowledge once possessed. It will therefore be judicious to begin the exposition by presenting certain items of the historical background as necessary and highly enlightening introductory matter.
This explanatory material must begin with the broad blunt statement that what is commonly believed about the Bible as a book, its date, authorship and "inspiration," is all quite erroneous. Let us be explicit in this: the solid bulk of common belief about this book is totally untrue! There is scarcely a single item of the common man's presuppositions about the Christian Scriptures,--who wrote its books, when it was written, how the composition was "dictated" or "inspired," what its message really means, in what language it was written, what is its assumed historical reference, how and why these particular books were selected out of hundreds to become "the Bible," and other subsidiary questions by the score--that comes within the proverbial mile of the actual truth concerning this mysterious document that for centuries has held the minds of millions under the prodigious obsession of its inviolable sanctity. The
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grim and sober truth must now be stated, that all general ideas about this volume, disseminated among the masses by the priests of the religions and never corrected by them, are totally, grossly, tragically false to fact.
If this drastic assertion seems to upset the whole apple-cart of conventional ideas on the subject of Bible authorship, the reader will need to brace himself to absorb the next shocking declaration, which undoubtedly will shatter all preconceived notions of the general mind. This jarring blow comes in the blunt statement that, in the common and accepted meaning of the words, the Bible books were never "written" at all! This, it will be said, is self-evident nonsense and folly! A book can't be a book unless it has been written. The retort still is that the statement is sober truth! In the sense in which the word "written" is used today, in reference to a book's authorship, these Bible books never were written. How can this be so? Simply enough, when it is known, as now it is, that this collection of documents was in existence for ages and held in the minds of priests and initiates in the ancient Mystery brotherhoods for thousands of years without ever having been committed to writing. They were preserved in memory only. They constituted the body of what is known as the great "oral tradition," a set of ritual formulas, ceremonial rites, allegorical depictions of truth, number graphs and pictorial representations of the realities and phenomena of man's spiritual history, that had been transmitted from generation to generation of the hierophants of the ancient religions in unwritten form. Finally here and there, for one reason or another, chiefly lest they be lost or forgotten or too badly corrupted by change, they were set down on paper, and so at last came to the later ages as books, presumably "written" by somebody. And once written, they became subject to the human pro-
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clivities of tampering, altering and religious skulduggery of many sorts. That they met with this treatment is not only admitted by the historians of Christianity in its early stages, but is even boasted of by the scribes and some of the Church Fathers, who thus initiated the moral justification of a resort to unholy means for the achievement of "holy" ends. Summing up volumes of history in a sentence, it can be said that the extent to which the flagrant practice of literary forgery was carried in the days of apostolic fervor is well past the belief of those who have not read the massed evidence.
So the books of the Bible were never "written" at all, in the modern understanding of literary authorship. They were not the original lucubrated creation of individual minds producing a written document that had not been in existence before such authorship. They were in large part the final deposit on paper of the sets of ritualistic formulas, dramatic scenarios, allegorical depictions, all representing the aspects of cosmic reality and spiritual truth; and they were often just the transcripts of the lines to be recited by the actors in the great Mystery plays of the ancient religion. Prominent among the material were the choral odes and runes to be chanted in accompaniment to the symbolic religious dances that imitated the rhythms of the universe.
Such has become the "set" of orthodox Christian thinking on such matters that when the statement is made that Scriptural material is not history in the modern sense, but is spiritual allegory and drama of cosmic verities, the reaction is inevitably one of mental let-down in evaluation of the importance of the Holy Word. This is a wrong attitude and must be corrected before another word is put down. Whether the reader is prepared to give credit to the truth of the statement or not, it must be said categorically that not only does the acceptance
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of the Bible contents as allegory instead of history not diminish their value, but it is the only device that will open the door to any appreciation of their true value. In short it is to be said that the Bible becomes infinitely more significant when taken as allegory than when read as ostensible history. (Unquestionably some history was interpolated at a later time, so that it is hard in places to determine where allegory stops and history begins.)
The high value of the allegory inheres in the fact that it faithfully portrays to discerning minds the inner core of the meaning of all history, for it depicts the one thing that is of central importance to all humans,--the spiritual or evolutionary history of the Sons of God, who are our own souls incarnated in mortal bodies here on earth. The Bible is a collection of archaic dramas and allegories pictorializing the experience and meaning of this mundane life of ours. Compared with these divinely produced representations of the structure, plan and import of man's earthly life, what has all along passed for the "history" of a minor tribe of herdsmen in one particular land less than twenty-five hundred years ago falls into comparative triviality and inconsequence. What was known of old, has been forgotten for centuries and must now be learned again, is that the religious myths of ancient times, formulated by near-divine genius, are infinitely truer than history.
All this will sound to the general orthodox reader like veritable heresy against consecrated tradition and opinion. But it is a poetic truism that "truth crushed to earth shall rise again." And in this matter the suppressed truth is rapidly rising to dissolve incrusted error.
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LOST KEYS RECOVERED.​
If the Bible is a collection of dramas and allegories of the soul's life in body, the point of next importance concerns their interpretation. Everything of value ultimately hinges on this. And because it was ever of pivotal importance, it was right here that ineptitude, unintelligence and chicanery crept in to ruin the operation of the entire scheme of instruction divinely instituted for human benefit. The loss of the symbolic codes and the consequent failure to grasp the proper interpretation sent the entire structure of ancient sagacity crashing down in tragic wreckage.
The trap that caught ignorance in its snares and led to the fatal decline of intelligence necessary for a true interpretation of Scriptural lore is not hard to locate. It was the strange device that ancient genius employed to release truth to the intelligent and the initiated, while hiding it from the base and vulgar mind. For the Bibles were written in a language the very existence of which has hardly been known since the days of its ancient usage--the language of symbolism.
The glyphs and characters of this ancient language have been undeciphered for twenty centuries or more. Only recently have the first steps been taken toward its recovery and restoration. But already it is seen that through its light the interior true meaning of the Bible and theology leaps into glorious significance and luminous intelligibility, so that the whole volume of divine revelation embodied in the Holy Scriptures is at once redeemed from arrant nonsense to sublime import and value. If this is true in any measurable degree, the announcement becomes the epochal event in two thousand years of Christian history. That it is wholly true there is no longer any sound reason to doubt.
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THREE FATEFUL WORDS.​
The rehabilitation of the lost meaning of the sacred books of old properly begins with the revelation of the cryptic connotation of three words in the Bible whose true interpretation will in a flash work a miracle of re-enlightenment in all minds and will in one vivid moment of new realization transform the entire structure of religion and theology. The whole rationale of religious conception, so far as it is based on the authority of Bible literature, will undergo a complete and astonishing reorientation when the great light released by the proper esoteric sense of these three words is turned upon the mystifying problem of sane exegesis. The discovery of this meaning, hidden for twenty centuries, will inaugurate a new era in all world religion. And what are these three words that carry such vital significance? They are "the dead," "death," and "to die." In essence they are the one word--"death."
It will fall with a stroke of amazement and incredulity upon minds of limited intelligence to be told that these words can possibly have, or could for twenty-five centuries have had, any other meaning in the Scriptures than the one commonly attached to them. What, it will be asked, can "death" possibly mean other than the demise of the physical person which ensues when the impalpable life energy, or soul, detaches itself from the vehicle of flesh? Who else can be the "dead" but those who have lived in body and are now gone across the great divide? What can "to die" mean if not to undergo the separation of the body and the spirit? Surely there can be concealed no mystery here, no hidden sense that could conceivably elude general intelligence.
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Yet it is our obligation to announce, in the face of this universal supposition, that these simple words have all the time borne a connotation different from the one commonly supposed to be their standard and established acceptation. And it becomes our privilege, on the strength of tested scholarship, to proclaim that they bear a meaning not only different from the one generally conceived, but one precisely opposite to that universally attributed to them. Incredible as it may seem, when used in their theological reference, these words bear a meaning that at one stroke turns the picture of all exegetical significance almost completely upside down! For "to die" means, for the soul, to live here on earth; "death" means the soul's life here in the flesh; and "the dead" is a term denoting those alive here in the mortal body! Could any assertion appear to be more preposterous? Evidence for these assertions, and plenty of it, the reader will be demanding. As to that, the quantity of evidence available to demonstrate the correctness of the pronouncement is almost limitless.
 

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The book was not altered in any way by your involvement. That would constitute a miracle.



The original written material covering every word of the Bible was contained in the Egyptian Book of The Dead and numerous other tomes which predate the alleged birth of Jesus by tens of thousands of years .
If I have a tendency to twist things waht would happen if I go something that was already in a twisted state?

All that you say is true. The Bible alone promotes that 'time' as we know it was established long after the earth existed, it also predicts a fiery end some 3.6B years from now. How many other old texts cover that. The river in Eze:47 is about 2 miles wide and knee deep and flowing about 10kph. If that was converted to rainfall for the River Jordan the could the rainfall average for the whole region be figured out? I would think so.
Filling up the Dead Sea with fresh water to a level it could support fresh water fish should also be something that is mathematically possible. The garden area could have been real for the whole region during the whole 360,000 years the ice-age might have lasted.
 

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If I have a tendency to twist things waht would happen if I go something that was already in a twisted state?

All that you say is true. The Bible alone promotes that 'time' as we know it was established long after the earth existed, it also predicts a fiery end some 3.6B years from now. How many other old texts cover that. The river in Eze:47 is about 2 miles wide and knee deep and flowing about 10kph. If that was converted to rainfall for the River Jordan the could the rainfall average for the whole region be figured out? I would think so.
Filling up the Dead Sea with fresh water to a level it could support fresh water fish should also be something that is mathematically possible. The garden area could have been real for the whole region during the whole 360,000 years the ice-age might have lasted.

The Bible is a mess of gibberish unless the aformentioned keys are applied. It, the bible, was pulled together about the forth century from thousands of extant tomes. It was based purely on a plan of conquest and iron rule of those original servants of the anti christ. While we confused swine incapable of appreciating the beauty and import of pearls sit in our pews waiting in fear for the anti christ it never occurs to us that it is his house we wait in. If we believe in the meaty baby jesus we have already succumbed to error and practice the beastly rights of idolatry of material and that is as irreligious and anti christ as a person can become. Funny eh? But the dead are like that.


"What profit hath not that fable of Christ brought us!"
—Pope Leo X
 

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If OBL was even successful even that far back then isn't that the adaptation we should take. Come up with a plot that has at lease one tirn in it to keep the audience on the 'just one more page' emotion. The ones knowing 'dark sentences' would be God, then Christ, then Holy Angels, then fallen angels and then their children the Giants and then the men that were able to learn some of that language. The signs following would have been an example of 'signs following', Moses was pretty up on all the various ways God cab get hold of your attention. The two witnesses would be the last example of the ones that use dark words while there are sinners in the world, after that the return to the pure language will have the people there learn the words to move mountains by voice as well as a host of other blessings.
Daniel was the first person to take advantage of the use of prayer while in exile as that was the method that was designed to be the normal way of making your sacrifices for sin once the scattering in 70AD took place. The consummation starts unfolding when the 'time of the Gentiles' time start to tick off and it is over the day the two witnesses die. Bit long of a read but then it's pretty detailed so not much thinking is required.

Da:9:4:
And I prayed unto the LORD my God,
and made my confession,
and said,
O Lord,
the great and dreadful God,
keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him,
and to them that keep his commandments;


Da:9:27:
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,
even until the consummation,
and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Lu:21:22-25:
For these be the days of vengeance,
that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child,
and to them that give suck,
in those days!
for there shall be great distress in the land,
and wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword,
and shall be led away captive into all nations:
and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles,
until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

And there shall be signs in the sun,
and in the moon,
and in the stars;
and upon the earth distress of nations,
with perplexity;
the sea and the waves roaring;

Re:11:1-2:
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod:
and the angel stood,
saying,
Rise,
and measure the temple of God,
and the altar,
and them that worship therein.

But the court which is without the temple leave out,
and measure it not;
for it is given unto the Gentiles:
and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.


The sealing is done before the trumps sound.

Re:8:2-6:
And I saw the seven angels which stood before God;
and to them were given seven trumpets.
And another angel came and stood at the altar,
having a golden censer;
and there was given unto him much incense,
that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

And the smoke of the incense,
which came with the prayers of the saints,
ascended up before God
out of the angel's hand.
And the angel took the censer,
and filled it with fire of the altar,

and cast it into the earth:
and there were voices,
and thunderings,
and lightnings,
and an earthquake.
And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

Re:4:2-6:
And immediately I was in the spirit:
and,
behold,
a throne was set in heaven,
and one sat on the throne.
And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone:
and there was a rainbow round about the throne,
in sight like unto an emerald.
And round about the throne were four and twenty seats:
and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting,
clothed in white raiment;

and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices:
and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne,
which are the seven Spirits of God.
And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal:
and in the midst of the throne,
and round about the throne,
were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

10 men from before the flood in Luke:3 and Moses and John the Baptist.
 

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Beavs! Pope Leo! Really? He was a trustworthy fellow! - Read with heavy sarcasm!

I direct the following at Leo. As Luther once said: I must stop: I can no longer rummage in your blasphemous, hellish devil's filth and stench.
 

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THE TOMB OF THE BODY.​
At about the same time there came one of the numberless correlations of meaning that continued to be revealed through the study of comparative philology, one indeed that supplied overwhelming corroboration to the discernment made through the reading of Massey's exegetics. Two English words of four letters each and differing in only one of them were seen to be alike because they esoterically connote the same thing. These two revealing words were "tomb" and "womb." If soul went to its "death" when it entered the body of a child, then that body must be actually its tomb, grave, sarcophagus, sepulcher and mummy case. But since also in that very tomb of "death" it was destined in the course of its cycle to have its rebirth or resurrection from "death," then also this body became in time its "womb" of new life. That vehicle which became its tomb of death, was also the conceiving mother-womb of its new birth!
And this startling correlation from two English
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words was more than corroborated by a similar, but even stronger kinship of structure that united two Greek words, namely soma, body, and sema, tomb. There is no escaping the deduction that the Greek Sages saw the body as the tomb, as well as the womb of the soul.
Along with the sweeping current of endless new enlightenments that came with every fresh sally of thought from the gate of the new premises there flashed the discernment of the esoteric meaning of the descent into and exodus from "Egypt." Here was another reorientation and clarification of a whole segment of both Old and New Testament cryptography. The geographical Egypt, lying south and west of Judea, fitted the allegorical direction in which souls from above traveled on their way down to earth and body. They went "west," then "south." If one will examine the charted direction of Abraham's journeying from the empyrean of heavenly fire, Ur, to "Egypt," it will be found that he went first west, then south.THE LOST KEY TO

Beavs! Pope Leo! Really? He was a trustworthy fellow! - Read with heavy sarcasm!

I direct the following at Leo. As Luther once said: I must stop: I can no longer rummage in your blasphemous, hellish devil's filth and stench.

If you want to find Christ you will have to put away your Bible the work of the true anti-christ.
 

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At least for the moment, the 7th trump and the day of the lord prophecies change a lot of things when that day unfolds.

Jer:31:34:
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother,
saying,
Know the LORD:
for they shall all know me,
from the least of them unto the greatest of them,
saith the LORD;
for I will forgive their iniquity,
and I will remember their sin no more.

Re:10:5-8:
And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever,
who created heaven,
and the things that therein are,
and the earth,
and the things that therein are,
and the sea,
and the things which are therein,
that there should be time no longer:
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery of God should be finished,
as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again,
and said,
Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

Da:12:1-2:
And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life,
and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Re:20:4-5:
And I saw thrones,
and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,
or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
This is the first resurrection.

Isa:65:12-17:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth;
and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth;
because the former troubles are forgotten,
and because they are hid from mine eyes.

For,
behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.

Re:21:3-7:
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men,
and he will dwell with them,
and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them,
and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
And he that sat upon the throne said,
Behold,
I make all things new.
And he said unto me,
Write:
for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me,
It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son.
 

cj44

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Well disagreement about philosophy makes the world go round. Your ilk provide the oposition that my ilk need to graduate to better accomodations. I appreciate your efforts in behalf of my resurection.
Well then. I will have to continue to accommodate you and your ilk as you accommodate me & my ilk. Though it will have to wait several hours as duty calls. In the meantime, I shall leave you with this, compliments of Luther:
"You plunge in like a sow to devour pearls, and like a dog tearing holy things to pieces." :)

Beavs, it is a pleasure conversing with you.
 

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
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Well then. I will have to continue to accommodate you and your ilk as you accommodate me & my ilk. Though it will have to wait several hours as duty calls. In the meantime, I shall leave you with this, compliments of Luther:
"You plunge in like a sow to devour pearls, and like a dog tearing holy things to pieces." :)

Beavs, it is a pleasure conversing with you.

Oink woof woof oink. We are given the command to plunge into death so that we may win again life.
 

MHz

Time Out
Mar 16, 2007
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Well disagreement about philosophy makes the world go round. Your ilk provide the oposition that my ilk need to graduate to better accomodations. I appreciate your efforts in behalf of my resurection.
If you ever wanted a preview of what will be coming down this would be the series to watch. The two references to the economic collapse of North America is almost a fact and I thing it is supposed to be complete by the 2nd blood moon this year. That might change as I just started listening to these new vids.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=deK4TOJ2cNE
 

MHz

Time Out
Mar 16, 2007
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This person is a Rabbi and as far as I know he is a respected one and one of his buddies that did the blood-moons (first one to do it) is a regular visiter to Israel so he probably isn't a rebel Rabbi. He is saying America is a fallen nation and Israel can never be in that position. Do the math for once.

BIWC - About Jonathan Cahn

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BntBMsHV_uo