Much like a minority government in Canada can be a good thing. Depending, of course, on the number of fringe parties. With our current three and a half party system, it can also just lock Parliament into being totally ineffective.
Liberals bring out the Knives
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How do you feel about the term limits? I'm thinking 2 years isn't really long enough. And sometimes much too long.
Also is there any recall legislation?
Whiskey & Oranges, is bullshit, & Freeland is going to lose to Carney, & Carney thinks he can bully America back with green initiatives and reciprocal tariffs back onto Canadian wallets? Ugh….& the Libs have about 20% of the backing of Canadians, so I wouldn’t exactly call that a mandate.
We needed a federal election in Canada at least a year ago, but the sooner the better for the entire country, so that somebody has a clear mandate to deal with America and this whole horseshit situation, & in turn NAFTA CUZMA UNYMCA EIEIO USMCA that Trumps walking all over right now.
Selective Canadian tariffs of Wisconsin cheese & Florida oranges & Tennessee whiskey (or something like whiskey?) is just nonsense at this point.
If it gets as far as retaliation instead of negotiation, we’ll need to think differently.
Trump. He has a clear mandate to rule the universe. Just ask him.
They're anti-democratic. We never should have let the Republicans buffalo us into passing Presidential term limits in the 22nd Amendment.
Yes, it was the Republicans. They feared another FDR.
Back in Canada surrounding this Liberal Leadership race, Leading Liberal leadership contender Mark Carney unveiled his new climate change plan Friday accusing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre of “lying” to Canadians by telling them “they have to choose between the environment and the economy,” (???) and then he told Canadians a far bigger whopper of his own.
Carney claimed he’s come up with a new, magical system for paying the costs of lowering industrial greenhouse gas emissions where only the “big polluters” pay while average Canadians end up better off financially.
. That sounds sooo familiar, like it’s been a Liberal talking point before…?
Never mind that this is exactly the same discredited claim Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made to Canadians when he introduced his national carbon tax in 2019 that Carney – who used to be a passionate advocate of carbon taxes, arguing they weren’t high enough – now says he’ll immediately scrap as PM because it’s become too divisive? Really?
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The rest of Carney’s half-baked proposals, containing few specifics – those, we’re told, will come later – are all rehashed methods of reducing emissions that to date have left Canada nowhere near hitting the Trudeau government’s fantasy emission reduction targets, having never hit a single one so far.
Carney said while scrapping the consumer carbon tax, he’ll retain and improve Trudeau’s much larger output-based pricing system for large industrial emitters – essentially a cap-and-trade system, which is another form of a carbon tax.
Carney says this improved system (= the same but more) by which industries will be able to save money by pursuing ways to lower emissions will result in a bigger buy-in by corporations and global markets, when in the real world, 10 major Canadian and U.S. banks just quit Carney’s Net Zero Banking Alliance and the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero to reduce global emissions to net zero by 2050.
Finally, in the category of truth is stranger than fiction, Carney said he will create a “carbon border adjustment system” that – wait for it – would impose tariffs on imported goods coming into Canada if the government concludes their countries of origin aren’t doing enough to fight climate change.
Alternatively, Canadian companies exporting goods to other countries under this system, “could” (assuming they also have their own cap&trade system) receive export rebates to defray their costs when marketing goods in foreign countries where companies face less stringent carbon pricing than in Canada, but…does our largest & only physically connected trade partner have a cap&trade system? Has it ever?
Carney claimed he’s come up with a new, magical system for paying the costs of lowering industrial greenhouse gas emissions where only the “big polluters” pay while average Canadians end up better off financially.
. That sounds sooo familiar, like it’s been a Liberal talking point before…? But he has announced his intention to Resign (which isn’t a resignation, because who’s the current PM still). To say that he’s stepped down is disingenuous. Anyway…
Never mind that this is exactly the same discredited claim Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made to Canadians when he introduced his national carbon tax in 2019 that Carney – who used to be a passionate advocate of carbon taxes, arguing they weren’t high enough – now says he’ll immediately scrap as PM because it’s become too divisive? Really?
GOLDSTEIN: Carney’s ‘new’ climate change plan a word-salad of nonsense — Toronto Sun
Leading Liberal leadership contender Mark Carney unveiled his new climate change plan Friday accusing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre of lying to Canadians by telling them they have to choose between the environment and the economy, and then he told Canadians a far bigger whopper of his...
Finally, in the category of truth is stranger than fiction, Carney said he will create a “carbon border adjustment system” that – wait for it – would impose tariffs on imported goods coming into Canada if the government concludes their countries of origin aren’t doing enough to fight climate change.
Alternatively, Canadian companies exporting goods to other countries under this system, “could” (assuming they also have their own cap&trade system) receive export rebates to defray their costs when marketing goods in foreign countries where companies face less stringent carbon pricing than in Canada, but…does our largest & only physically connected trade partner have a cap&trade system? Has it ever?
Anyone involved with the current regime is tainted.
Best to just stuff someone in who can ride out an election lose and hope to do something in 4 years.
While they purge their parties of anyone that was involved in supporting the Trudeau/Singh non-coalition coalition that definitely wasn’t a coalition-type coalition? Anyone that was involved in the last decade of Liberal scandals and graft and ethical shenanigans…or voted in lockstep to keep them hidden or investigated? Something like that?
The reason the federal Liberals can never be trusted on the carbon tax is that even as they seemingly abandon it, they refuse to admit they were wrong to introduce it.Carney claimed he’s come up with a new, magical system for paying the costs of lowering industrial greenhouse gas emissions where only the “big polluters” pay while average Canadians end up better off financially.
This includes both front runners in the Liberal leadership race…the former finance minister & the “outsider” that Trudeau/Telford and 56 other loyal Liberal MP’s (so far) are backing ‘cuz his policies are “so different?” than Justin Trudeau’s.
Instead of apologizing to Canadians for their half-baked, poorly explained policy that divided the country, while they insulted anyone who opposed it as wanting to let the planet burn, the Liberals even now refuse to accept responsibility for what they did.
In announcing what Carney described as his new climate change plan on Friday, basically Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s old climate change plan with a few tweaks led by scrapping a relatively minor component of it known as the consumer fuel charge – while retaining its much larger industrial carbon pricing component – Liberal leadership frontrunner Mark Carney blamed its demise on Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre?
(Pierre Poilievre is not the PM yet, & has not had a say in the Liberal government’s carbon tax policy scheme that they’ve imposed upon Canada)
“When Pierre Poilievre says we have to choose between fighting climate change and growing our economy, he’s lying to us,” Carney alleged, adding public opposition to the carbon tax was “fed by misinformation and lies quite frankly by the leader of the opposition.”
Accusing Poilievre of lying when you were a global cheerleader for carbon taxes up to a couple of coffees ago – even complaining they weren’t high enough – shows a staggering degree of tone deafness and lack of understanding of how the public would perceive such a startling reversal.
GOLDSTEIN: Why we can’t trust the Liberal reversal on carbon taxes — Toronto Sun
Even as the federal Liberals seemingly abandon the carbon tax, they refuse to admit they were wrong to introduce it
On Friday, Carney told enthralled Liberals as he announced his “new” (?) climate change plan, “I’m not a politician. I’m becoming a politician, but I’m not a politician,” apparently unaware that this is exactly how politicians talk – in doubletalk.
Urban Dictionary: double talk
Otherwise unnecessary verbiage added in order to confuse the listener, such as using a double negative to make a statement mean the opposite of what it would otherwise mean. See also, doublespeak.
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Former & briefly British PM Liz Truss discusses Mark Carney:
She doesn’t seem to be a big fan, but that’s only due to first hand experience I guess.
(For Tec, YouTube & “LILLEY UNLEASHED: Former British PM weighs in on Mark Carney’s banking reputation”)
(For Tec, YouTube & “LILLEY UNLEASHED: Former British PM weighs in on Mark Carney’s banking reputation”)
“Carbon Border Adjustment Fee?” Who’s our largest trading partner currently again (?) & do they have a cap&trade carbon taxing scheme?? How about even our top three trading partners?
Barely a month from the Liberal leadership selection, candidate Chrystia Freeland’s campaign is suggesting the entry fee from the party has been set too high and candidate Karina Gould has warned supporters she might not make it past the next deposit deadline.
In an email to her supporters on Tuesday, Karina Gould warned that the party set an “aggressive fundraising deadline” and that she needs more help to meet the goal of raising $125,000 by Friday, 5 p.m., for her to stay in the race.
“My campaign is powered by people, not deep pockets,” says the email, obtained by National Post. “But the deadline is fast approaching, and your support today will determine whether we get a real race as Liberals or whether we have a coronation.”
The Liberal party asked leadership candidates for a steep entry fee of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, six weeks after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced he would be stepping down once his successor was chosen.
“Chrystia Freeland believes that a large field with a low barrier to entry is the best way to renew our party, have a diversity of viewpoints (if that’s actually what the Liberal Party wanted), and engage as many Liberals as possible as we head into the next federal election to defeat (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre,” she said. Wait, what?
What about acting in the best interests of Canada & Canadians? Not acting in the best interests of the Liberal Party? Isn’t that the goal…the best interests of Canadians?
Liberal supporters are set to choose their next leader on March 9 in a short race. The party’s high entry fee was seen as a way to keep out long-shot or unserious candidates with unacceptable misogynistic fringe views, etc…
…The fee is a significant jump from the $75,000 fee in the previous leadership race.
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Candidates had to declare their intention to run by Jan. 23 -- and deliver a $350,000 entrance feethat's payable in four installments.
In an email to her supporters on Tuesday, Karina Gould warned that the party set an “aggressive fundraising deadline” and that she needs more help to meet the goal of raising $125,000 by Friday, 5 p.m., for her to stay in the race.
“My campaign is powered by people, not deep pockets,” says the email, obtained by National Post. “But the deadline is fast approaching, and your support today will determine whether we get a real race as Liberals or whether we have a coronation.”
The Liberal party asked leadership candidates for a steep entry fee of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, six weeks after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced he would be stepping down once his successor was chosen.
“Chrystia Freeland believes that a large field with a low barrier to entry is the best way to renew our party, have a diversity of viewpoints (if that’s actually what the Liberal Party wanted), and engage as many Liberals as possible as we head into the next federal election to defeat (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre,” she said. Wait, what?
What about acting in the best interests of Canada & Canadians? Not acting in the best interests of the Liberal Party? Isn’t that the goal…the best interests of Canadians?
Liberal supporters are set to choose their next leader on March 9 in a short race. The party’s high entry fee was seen as a way to keep out long-shot or unserious candidates with unacceptable misogynistic fringe views, etc…
…The fee is a significant jump from the $75,000 fee in the previous leadership race.Liberal leadership's steep fee deposit has candidates scrambling, criticizing — National Post
The party is asking for of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, which Freeland says is too high
Inflation is hard on us all.Barely a month from the Liberal leadership selection, candidate Chrystia Freeland’s campaign is suggesting the entry fee from the party has been set too high and candidate Karina Gould has warned supporters she might not make it past the next deposit deadline.
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In an email to her supporters on Tuesday, Karina Gould warned that the party set an “aggressive fundraising deadline” and that she needs more help to meet the goal of raising $125,000 by Friday, 5 p.m., for her to stay in the race.
“My campaign is powered by people, not deep pockets,” says the email, obtained by National Post. “But the deadline is fast approaching, and your support today will determine whether we get a real race as Liberals or whether we have a coronation.”
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The Liberal party asked leadership candidates for a steep entry fee of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, six weeks after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced he would be stepping down once his successor was chosen.
“Chrystia Freeland believes that a large field with a low barrier to entry is the best way to renew our party, have a diversity of viewpoints (if that’s actually what the Liberal Party wanted), and engage as many Liberals as possible as we head into the next federal election to defeat (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre,” she said. Wait, what?
What about acting in the best interests of Canada & Canadians? Not acting in the best interests of the Liberal Party? Isn’t that the goal…the best interests of Canadians?
Liberal supporters are set to choose their next leader on March 9 in a short race. The party’s high entry fee was seen as a way to keep out long-shot or unserious candidates with unacceptable misogynistic fringe views, etc…
Candidates had to declare their intention to run by Jan. 23 -- and deliver a $350,000 entrance feethat's payable in four installments.Liberal leadership's steep fee deposit has candidates scrambling, criticizing — National Post
The party is asking for of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, which Freeland says is too high
The Liberal party has never been interested in what the Canadian people want.Barely a month from the Liberal leadership selection, candidate Chrystia Freeland’s campaign is suggesting the entry fee from the party has been set too high and candidate Karina Gould has warned supporters she might not make it past the next deposit deadline.
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In an email to her supporters on Tuesday, Karina Gould warned that the party set an “aggressive fundraising deadline” and that she needs more help to meet the goal of raising $125,000 by Friday, 5 p.m., for her to stay in the race.
“My campaign is powered by people, not deep pockets,” says the email, obtained by National Post. “But the deadline is fast approaching, and your support today will determine whether we get a real race as Liberals or whether we have a coronation.”
View attachment 27349
The Liberal party asked leadership candidates for a steep entry fee of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, six weeks after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced he would be stepping down once his successor was chosen.
“Chrystia Freeland believes that a large field with a low barrier to entry is the best way to renew our party, have a diversity of viewpoints (if that’s actually what the Liberal Party wanted), and engage as many Liberals as possible as we head into the next federal election to defeat (Conservative Leader) Pierre Poilievre,” she said. Wait, what?
What about acting in the best interests of Canada & Canadians? Not acting in the best interests of the Liberal Party? Isn’t that the goal…the best interests of Canadians?
Liberal supporters are set to choose their next leader on March 9 in a short race. The party’s high entry fee was seen as a way to keep out long-shot or unserious candidates with unacceptable misogynistic fringe views, etc…
Candidates had to declare their intention to run by Jan. 23 -- and deliver a $350,000 entrance feethat's payable in four installments.Liberal leadership's steep fee deposit has candidates scrambling, criticizing — National Post
The party is asking for of $350,000 to be paid in several payments before Feb. 17, which Freeland says is too high
Because the Canadian people don't know what they want so they are told what they want even if they know they don't want it.
They miss one point. For Carney to be PM some has to give up a seat. Are retiring backbencher will do but Carney will have to run in a high profile "safe seat" riding. If you think he'll try to ride it out to October, Trump will go through with the tarrifs against the Liberals. It's safe to say "Singh and LeBlanc were put on notice".
Whomever wins Lib leadership will only see the inside of the House to be sworn in then off to the GG to dissolve Parliament. There won't be a nonconfidence vote.
Mr and Mrs Wonderful (O’Leary and Smith) who have Trump's ear dropped huge hints as did Trump. If you get beyond the obscure statements the retard media lingers on and listen or put pieces together he says what he's going to do.
Ukraine for example, say he wants Ukrainian rare earth minerals worth $10-12 Trillion which the retard media stuck with and used to ridicule him as trying to empire build. In reality those RREs are in Lughansk and Donbass. How can Zelinsky agree to US getting development first dibs in exchange for the ability to get back its Russian occupied regions. Retard media didn't catch on that it means Russia withdrawal or be wiped out.
I think it’ll be that ninja PM with the Ottawa adjacent riding…& that would make sense for the liberals, not allowing him to run in the leadership race.
The prime minister’s (Trudeau, not Carney yet) comments were made behind closed doors at the economic summit after media had been asked to leave the room?
They were first reported by the Toronto Star. A senior government source confirmed the comments. The Globe is not identifying the source because they are not authorized to speak publicly? Like always?
This sounds awfully familiar. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told an economic summit on Friday that he believes U.S. President Donald Trump is sincere in his desire to annex Canada and that this stems from the American leader’s interest in gaining access to this country’s critical minerals, a source said.
Donald Trump wants to annex Canada to gain access to its critical minerals, Trudeau says — The Globe and Mail
The Prime Minister made the comments at a gathering of business and labour leaders aimed at brainstorming ways to boost Canada’s economy in the face of U.S. protectionism
Mr. Trump has repeatedly ‘proposed’ to Canada in recent months that it could avoid tariffs if it agreed to a political union with the United States. He has “mockingly” (???) referred to Mr. Trudeau as the governor of the 51st state.