Liberals bring out the Knives
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In theory, anyway…but in the last election, I “Knew” Jagmeet Singh was going to be the leader of the NDP in advance of the election….& I “Knew” Ellie May was going to be the leader of the Green Party, etc…& I sure as Hell didn’t want either of them to be the leader of our nation, for example.
Right. So "Canadians vote for PM" like Americans vote for Speaker of the House.
From the outside looking in, though you swim in this pool like the rest of us, without using Google, can you name 1 NDP MP who’s last name isn’t “Singh” in Canadian Parliament or who’s going to run in our next Federal election (whenever that’s allowed to happen) ???
That’s the reality of the Canadian system.
We look at our local Party candidates, with the understanding & knowledge of who their boss is going to be (& and in turn our next PM if that party wins the most seats), and then we cast out vote.
Understood. I was just getting clear on it. By comparison, down hereabouts the President is popularly elected (with the distorting effect of the Electoral College), the House of Representatives and Senate are popularly elected by district and state respectively, and the Speaker of the House is elected by the Representatives (in theory, practically by the Representatives of the party with the majority).
Formally, do all MPs get a vote on PM? Even those in other parties? I understand that practically it will end up being the leader of the majority party/coalition.
Individual MPs & party members in a particular party get a vote on who is going to be the leader of each individual party.
Which ever party after an election has the most seats in Parliament, that parties leader becomes the Prime Minister. That’s the way it’s supposed to work.
NDP MP’s don’t get a say in who the leader (or leaders, in the case of the Greens) is going to be for a different political party, for example.
Does it seem right to you that our next PM could be chosen through a process set up by the Liberal Party exclusively and someone never elected to office could rule the country for more than a year?
Carney, if he is selected by registered Liberals – including 14-year-old non-citizens – could govern for nearly 20 months without ever getting a mandate from the public….what few believe can happen…but there is a 5yr mandate possible.
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I know the main thinking is that the Liberals will select their leader on March 9, then Parliament will resume on March 24 and an election will happen shortly afterward. But it may not happen this way. And given that our constitution states that “Every House of Commons shall continue for Five Years from the Day of the Return of the Writs for choosing the House,” it doesn’t have to.
Which means, the Liberals could select Carney as leader in March and we are stuck with him as PM until September 2026.
(There are some Liberals already chomping at the bit for this to be the scenario that plays out)
Our fixed election date law would not get in the way of a government following the constitution. It’s true, the Carney Liberals would need the support of one of the opposition parties, but does anyone really believe NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh won’t back this government as Carney declares there is a national emergency, and the country needs to rally to fight Donald Trump?
Given Singh’s track record of the Liberals walking all over him time and again and him taking it – he voted confidence in the government eight times after ripping up the coalition deal – Singh simply isn’t believable.
The idea that the Liberals will craft something to ensure Carney, their newly selected leader, survives past the end of March is believable.
Carney, if he is selected by registered Liberals – including 14-year-old non-citizens – could govern for nearly 20 months without ever getting a mandate from the public….what few believe can happen…but there is a 5yr mandate possible.
LILLEY: Carney yet to answer real questions on policy or judgement — Toronto Sun
Carney and the Liberals could government until late 2026 and the man still hasn't answered a serious question
Which means, the Liberals could select Carney as leader in March and we are stuck with him as PM until September 2026.
(There are some Liberals already chomping at the bit for this to be the scenario that plays out)
Our fixed election date law would not get in the way of a government following the constitution. It’s true, the Carney Liberals would need the support of one of the opposition parties, but does anyone really believe NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh won’t back this government as Carney declares there is a national emergency, and the country needs to rally to fight Donald Trump?
The idea that the Liberals will craft something to ensure Carney, their newly selected leader, survives past the end of March is believable.
I know this would be some anomaly, but is it possible to elect a President and have his party lose?
If he doesn't vote down the government.Does it seem right to you that our next PM could be chosen through a process set up by the Liberal Party exclusively and someone never elected to office could rule the country for more than a year?
Carney, if he is selected by registered Liberals – including 14-year-old non-citizens – could govern for nearly 20 months without ever getting a mandate from the public….what few believe can happen…but there is a 5yr mandate possible.
I know the main thinking is that the Liberals will select their leader on March 9, then Parliament will resume on March 24 and an election will happen shortly afterward. But it may not happen this way. And given that our constitution states that “Every House of Commons shall continue for Five Years from the Day of the Return of the Writs for choosing the House,” it doesn’t have to.LILLEY: Carney yet to answer real questions on policy or judgement — Toronto Sun
Carney and the Liberals could government until late 2026 and the man still hasn't answered a serious question
Which means, the Liberals could select Carney as leader in March and we are stuck with him as PM until September 2026.
(There are some Liberals already chomping at the bit for this to be the scenario that plays out)
Our fixed election date law would not get in the way of a government following the constitution. It’s true, the Carney Liberals would need the support of one of the opposition parties, but does anyone really believe NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh won’t back this government as Carney declares there is a national emergency, and the country needs to rally to fight Donald Trump?
Given Singh’s track record of the Liberals walking all over him time and again and him taking it – he voted confidence in the government eight times after ripping up the coalition deal – Singh simply isn’t believable.
The idea that the Liberals will craft something to ensure Carney, their newly selected leader, survives past the end of March is believable.
He better keep his head down
Plenty of angry people are out there, and many have firearms training.
I know the zealots and opportunists, aka the Liberals and NDP, don't care about Canadians or the fact we are looking down the barrel of a trade war they seem overzealous to engage in. They are only shooting their mouths off for political points. This government has hamstrung us, and if this tariff war begins, our dollar will continue to nosedive, and Americans will not feel the counter-tariffs.
But we will, and this will be the second Tsunami of inflation Canada feels, bought and paid for by the taxpayers for the benefit of the Liberal party of Canada, aka mother effers.
But we will, and this will be the second Tsunami of inflation Canada feels, bought and paid for by the taxpayers for the benefit of the Liberal party of Canada, aka mother effers.
Carney got what, by my count, is his 53rd caucus endorsement late Thursday when Jaime Battiste, the Mi’kmaw MP who represents the Cape Breton riding of Sydney–Victoria, announced he was out of the race and that he was throwing his support behind the 59-year-old “Liberal Outsider” central banker & Trudeau’s financial architect.
Freeland has challenged all other leaders to a debate and the party appears to have responded, saying there will be debates in French and English though details are TBD, ‘cuz, you know, no rush…as it’s not like the government criticizism towards accountability from any opposition is put on hold due to proroguation for a Liberal Leadership race???
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Freeland, Carney, Gould, Dhalla and former Montreal MP Frank Baylis all managed to meet the deadline, set by the party, of making a second $50,000 payment by 5 p.m. ET Thursday in order to stay in the race. Battiste…not so much.
For the remaining five to continue towards the conclusion of the race on March 9, they’ll each have to raise another $125,000 by 5 p.m. on Feb. 7, and another $125,000 by Feb 17.
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Freeland has challenged all other leaders to a debate and the party appears to have responded, saying there will be debates in French and English though details are TBD, ‘cuz, you know, no rush…as it’s not like the government criticizism towards accountability from any opposition is put on hold due to proroguation for a Liberal Leadership race???
Can Mark Carney become PM even if he hasn't been elected as an MP? Yes.....and here is why.
The Liberals are holding a leadership race after Justin Trudeau announced he would resign. The frontrunner is Mark Carney, a man never elected to anything. S...
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For the remaining five to continue towards the conclusion of the race on March 9, they’ll each have to raise another $125,000 by 5 p.m. on Feb. 7, and another $125,000 by Feb 17.
Then there were five: Liberal race narrows with Carney the choice of caucus — Global News
The only Indigenous candidate in the Liberal leadership race, Jaime Battiste, has exited, in support of Mark Carney who will face reporters in Halifax Friday.
Michelle Rempel Garner is so cute.Does it seem right to you that our next PM could be chosen through a process set up by the Liberal Party exclusively and someone never elected to office could rule the country for more than a year?
Carney, if he is selected by registered Liberals – including 14-year-old non-citizens – could govern for nearly 20 months without ever getting a mandate from the public….what few believe can happen…but there is a 5yr mandate possible.
I know the main thinking is that the Liberals will select their leader on March 9, then Parliament will resume on March 24 and an election will happen shortly afterward. But it may not happen this way. And given that our constitution states that “Every House of Commons shall continue for Five Years from the Day of the Return of the Writs for choosing the House,” it doesn’t have to.LILLEY: Carney yet to answer real questions on policy or judgement — Toronto Sun
Carney and the Liberals could government until late 2026 and the man still hasn't answered a serious question
Which means, the Liberals could select Carney as leader in March and we are stuck with him as PM until September 2026.
(There are some Liberals already chomping at the bit for this to be the scenario that plays out)
Our fixed election date law would not get in the way of a government following the constitution. It’s true, the Carney Liberals would need the support of one of the opposition parties, but does anyone really believe NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh won’t back this government as Carney declares there is a national emergency, and the country needs to rally to fight Donald Trump?
Given Singh’s track record of the Liberals walking all over him time and again and him taking it – he voted confidence in the government eight times after ripping up the coalition deal – Singh simply isn’t believable.
The idea that the Liberals will craft something to ensure Carney, their newly selected leader, survives past the end of March is believable.
It's quite common. Many people think the best governments we have are when the President is a Republican and the House and Senate are Democratic-majority.
Here's a short round-up of control of the Senate, control of the House of Representatives, and Presidency since 1945. . .
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While we're at it. . . brief primer on U.S. government. . .
Congress-
House of Representatives (sometimes called "Congress," confusingly enough)-
435 members, called "Representatives" or "Members of Congress." A handful of non-voting "delegates" from the District of Columbia and the more-important territories.
2-year terms, elected first Tuesday in November in even-numbered years.
Elected from "districts." Each state has one or more districts, no district includes parts of more than one state.
No term limits.
Senate-
100 members, two from each state.
Popularly elected in statewide voting.
6-year terms, with 1/3 elected in each election.
No term limits.
Presidency-
4-year terms, elected every other Congressional election (years evenly divisible by 4).
Each state sends "electors" to Electoral College "in the manner prescribed by the legislature." Currently all states "prescribed manner" is by popular election. Winner-take-all format, if you win 50%+1 of the popular vote, you get ALL the state's electors, except Maine and Nebraska (3 electors each, 2 to the winner, 1 to the loser (roughly)). Thus, the winner of the nationwide popular vote can lose.
Constitutionally limited to 2 terms. If the President dies or resigns, the Vice-President becomes President. If a VP "succeeds" to the Presidency, the term is a full term if it is one day over 2 years. If it's one day under 2 years, it's not a full term. Thus, a VP who "succeeds" to the presidency can serve a maximum of 10 years minus one day.
All laws are made by Congress. A "bill" can originate in either chamber (minor exceptions). For a bill to become law (an "Act"), it must receive a simple majority in both chambers.
In case of a tie in the Senate, the Vice-President breaks the tie.
Congress-
House of Representatives (sometimes called "Congress," confusingly enough)-
435 members, called "Representatives" or "Members of Congress." A handful of non-voting "delegates" from the District of Columbia and the more-important territories.
2-year terms, elected first Tuesday in November in even-numbered years.
Elected from "districts." Each state has one or more districts, no district includes parts of more than one state.
No term limits.
Senate-
100 members, two from each state.
Popularly elected in statewide voting.
6-year terms, with 1/3 elected in each election.
No term limits.
Presidency-
4-year terms, elected every other Congressional election (years evenly divisible by 4).
Each state sends "electors" to Electoral College "in the manner prescribed by the legislature." Currently all states "prescribed manner" is by popular election. Winner-take-all format, if you win 50%+1 of the popular vote, you get ALL the state's electors, except Maine and Nebraska (3 electors each, 2 to the winner, 1 to the loser (roughly)). Thus, the winner of the nationwide popular vote can lose.
Constitutionally limited to 2 terms. If the President dies or resigns, the Vice-President becomes President. If a VP "succeeds" to the Presidency, the term is a full term if it is one day over 2 years. If it's one day under 2 years, it's not a full term. Thus, a VP who "succeeds" to the presidency can serve a maximum of 10 years minus one day.
All laws are made by Congress. A "bill" can originate in either chamber (minor exceptions). For a bill to become law (an "Act"), it must receive a simple majority in both chambers.
In case of a tie in the Senate, the Vice-President breaks the tie.
Clearly it must be Freeland with her tough on Trump stance with all that 100% reciprocating tariffs on Tesla and whiskey Lol