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Liberal MPs are sharpening their knives as a breakaway group of MPs (likely fringe-anti-trans-mysognists) have signed a super secret document calling for Justin Trudeau to resign.

The best thing they can do for their party is to call an election and finish their term with Trudeau. If I were a leadership hopeful, why on earth would I want to jump on this sinking ship?

It's better to lose the election with Trudeau as leader.
Then there will be flooding.
They will get rid of the Capo's in this Gender Balanced Doomsday Cult. I expect, Freeland, Guilbeault, Anand, SaJJJan, and a few more are so close to Trudeau, that they will not escape the massacre.


 
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Liberal MPs are sharpening their knives as a breakaway group of MPs (likely fringe-anti-trans-mysognists) have signed a super secret document calling for Justin Trudeau to resign.
So secret that something like 20-30 Liberal MP’s all spoke to CTV about this… anonymously, of course…

Luckily for Trudeau, Mary Ng who’s corrupt tangent has come to light in her own scandal (just help’n out a buddy with taxpayer monies) had to be flagged by the ethics commissioner a while back…backs Trudeau wholeheartedly, so he’s got that going for him.
The best thing they can do for their party is to call an election and finish their term with Trudeau. If I were a leadership hopeful, why on earth would I want to jump on this sinking ship? It's better to lose the election with Trudeau as leader. Then there will be flooding.
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So secret that something like 20-30 Liberal MP’s all spoke to CTV about this… anonymously, of course…

Luckily for Trudeau, Mary Ng who’s corrupt tangent has come to light in her own scandal (just help’n out a buddy with taxpayer monies) had be flagged by the ethics commissioner a while back…backs Trudeau wholeheartedly, so he’s got that going for him.

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Fuck, call an election already.
 

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So secret that something like 20-30 Liberal MP’s all spoke to CTV about this… anonymously, of course…
It’s all anonymous Liberals worried about losing their jobs in the next election given their dismal standing in the polls compared to Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives..

Liberal sources told the Star, CBC and other media that so far, 20 to 40 Liberal MPs are willing to put their names on a pledge calling on Trudeau to quit, following confidential meetings within the Liberal caucus, while Trudeau and his advisors were in Laos attending a meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

That’s far less than half the Liberal caucus of 153 MPs, many loyal to Trudeau because he put them in his cabinet.

Having organizers of a potential coup talking to the media about the coup before they’re ready to trigger it, helps the PMO figure out how to kill it.

The Liberals still don’t have a national campaign director after the last one quit, despite the fact an election could come at any time and they’ve done nothing to reboot themselves since their two shock byelection defeats in Toronto and Montreal.
As Trudeau returns from a trip to Asia, he is likely to hunker down with his faithful entourage to plot strategy while plotting of another kind will be on the minds of the Gang of 20 (the approximate number of Liberal MPs said to have signed a document in support of replacing the prime minister before the next election.)

The Toronto Star first reported on Friday that “anxious Liberals” were worried about the state of the party under Trudeau. People were saying on the doorstep that “your guy’s gotta go,” while one party source said two dozen sitting MPs were deciding whether to run again at the next election.
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If offence is the best defence, Trudeau is likely to adopt the, “I’m not going anywhere” strategy.

The prime minister’s defensive vanguard was led at the weekend by Trade Minister Mary Ng who expressed her disappointment that overwrought colleagues were overly concerned with overthrowing their leader. It’s not what Canadians want, she said??
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Still, perhaps unwittingly, she uttered the words that have ushered many a political leader to the dustbin of history: “I have full confidence in Justin Trudeau as my leader.”

Expect “full confidence” to be expressed in the most robust terms, with the utmost vigour, and in increasingly strident tones, by Cabinet ministers in the days to come.

The prime minister will demand it. Cabinet ministers will comply. The public will be told. And we will all be none the wiser as to how much support Trudeau has.
The Globe and Mail spoke with 15 Liberals, including 10 MPs for this story. All of them denied being part of the latest revolt and many of them noted that rumours of an organized ouster have been circling in the Liberal caucus for months.

The Globe is not naming the sources so they could speak freely without fear of repercussion. Two of the MPs who were named by other sources as key organizers in the latest attempt to remove the Prime Minister said they had no part in the revolt.
Trade Minister Mary Ng said Friday she had full confidence in Trudeau as word began to spread about a growing revolt.
…Then Sunday morning news in literally the middle of the thanksgiving long weekend. How ‘bout that?
…&…speaking of Liberal knives coming out…If the latest polls are to be believed, the Conservatives are on course for a 220-plus seat majority. That could leave the Liberals, Canada’s so-called “natural governing party,” in danger of being exiled to the far reaches of the House of Commons chamber as the third party, behind the Bloc Québécois, which doesn’t much care what happens beyond the borders of Quebec.

In such a circumstance, there would be a temptation among many newly-appointed senators to form the unofficial opposition in residence, acting as a check on unfettered power of a majority government prime minister.

There are concerns in the Conservative caucus — and also among Bloc MPs — that the denizens of the Red Chamber are already auditioning for the role.
 

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The demented child king doesn't get it.
Even the Obtuse Sunny Ways Canadians are turning on him.
The fear (is it fear?) in the Liberal Party of retribution for dissenting opinions against Justin Trudeau (in support of the party & government itself) is…something?

The Globe is not naming the sources so they could speak freely without fear of repercussion.

Over the weekend, The Globe and Mail spoke with 18 Liberals, including 13 MPs. The vast majority of them denied any involvement in the campaign against the Prime Minister and many of them noted that rumours of an organized attempt have been circling in the Liberal caucus for months but never materialized and they were skeptical that this time would be different.

“The Prime Minister does need to step down for the good of the party,” said Mr. Long (New Brunswick Liberal MP Wayne Long), who is not running again in the next election. “I’m a proud Liberal, I’m a part of the Liberal Party of Canada. It’s not the Justin Trudeau Party of Canada.”

So far, no other MP has publicly tied their names to the latest effort. In September, Quebec Liberal MP Alexandra Mendès said based on what she heard from constituents, she doesn’t believe the party can win another election with Mr. Trudeau as leader.

Still, almost all of the MPs who spoke to The Globe said there is anxiety and frustration within caucus. They also said there has been no sense of urgency exhibited by the PMO to make changes in the face of bad polling, lacklustre fundraising, and the loss of key ridings in Toronto and Montreal – cities that make up the core of Liberal support.
 

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The fear (is it fear?) in the Liberal Party of retribution for dissenting opinions against Justin Trudeau (in support of the party & government itself) is…something?

The Globe is not naming the sources so they could speak freely without fear of repercussion.

Over the weekend, The Globe and Mail spoke with 18 Liberals, including 13 MPs. The vast majority of them denied any involvement in the campaign against the Prime Minister and many of them noted that rumours of an organized attempt have been circling in the Liberal caucus for months but never materialized and they were skeptical that this time would be different.

“The Prime Minister does need to step down for the good of the party,” said Mr. Long (New Brunswick Liberal MP Wayne Long), who is not running again in the next election. “I’m a proud Liberal, I’m a part of the Liberal Party of Canada. It’s not the Justin Trudeau Party of Canada.”

So far, no other MP has publicly tied their names to the latest effort. In September, Quebec Liberal MP Alexandra Mendès said based on what she heard from constituents, she doesn’t believe the party can win another election with Mr. Trudeau as leader.

Still, almost all of the MPs who spoke to The Globe said there is anxiety and frustration within caucus. They also said there has been no sense of urgency exhibited by the PMO to make changes in the face of bad polling, lacklustre fundraising, and the loss of key ridings in Toronto and Montreal – cities that make up the core of Liberal support.
Don’t worry Trudeau is still diligently working hard for middle class Canadians and those who want to join them . One for you three for me .
 

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“The Prime Minister does need to step down for the good of the party,” said Mr. Long (New Brunswick Liberal MP Wayne Long), who is not running again in the next election. “I’m a proud Liberal, I’m a part of the Liberal Party of Canada. It’s not the Justin Trudeau Party of Canada.”
Oh, but yes, it is, and it has been since 2015 when it became the Justin Trudeau Doomsday Cult.
 
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Sean Casey, the MP for Charlottetown, told CBC News Network's Power & Politics that Trudeau's leadership has become one of the main topics of conversation when he speaks to voters in his riding.

"The message that I've been getting loud and clear — and more and more strongly as time goes by — is that it is time for [Trudeau] to go. And I agree," he told host David Cochrane in an exclusive interview Tuesday.

"People have had enough. They've tuned him out and they want him to go."
Casey is the first MP to call publicly for Trudeau's resignation since it was reported last week that a growing number of anxious Liberals are working to force the prime minister to step down as Liberal leader.
 

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Sean Casey, the MP for Charlottetown, told CBC News Network's Power & Politics that Trudeau's leadership has become one of the main topics of conversation when he speaks to voters in his riding.

"The message that I've been getting loud and clear — and more and more strongly as time goes by — is that it is time for [Trudeau] to go. And I agree," he told host David Cochrane in an exclusive interview Tuesday.

"People have had enough. They've tuned him out and they want him to go."
Casey is the first MP to call publicly for Trudeau's resignation since it was reported last week that a growing number of anxious Liberals are working to force the prime minister to step down as Liberal leader.
The biggest favor they could do their party is to let Numbnuts go to an election.
Otherwise, the new leader assumes Captain of the Titanic while Trudeau jumps onboard the SS World Economic Forum.
 
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It’s all anonymous Liberals worried about losing their jobs in the next election given their dismal standing in the polls compared to Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives..

Liberal sources told the Star, CBC and other media that so far, 20 to 40 Liberal MPs are willing to put their names on a pledge calling on Trudeau to quit, following confidential meetings within the Liberal caucus, while Trudeau and his advisors were in Laos attending a meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

That’s far less than half the Liberal caucus of 153 MPs, many loyal to Trudeau because he put them in his cabinet.

Having organizers of a potential coup talking to the media about the coup before they’re ready to trigger it, helps the PMO figure out how to kill it.

The Liberals still don’t have a national campaign director after the last one quit, despite the fact an election could come at any time and they’ve done nothing to reboot themselves since their two shock byelection defeats in Toronto and Montreal.
As Trudeau returns from a trip to Asia, he is likely to hunker down with his faithful entourage to plot strategy while plotting of another kind will be on the minds of the Gang of 20 (the approximate number of Liberal MPs said to have signed a document in support of replacing the prime minister before the next election.)

The Toronto Star first reported on Friday that “anxious Liberals” were worried about the state of the party under Trudeau. People were saying on the doorstep that “your guy’s gotta go,” while one party source said two dozen sitting MPs were deciding whether to run again at the next election.
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If offence is the best defence, Trudeau is likely to adopt the, “I’m not going anywhere” strategy.

The prime minister’s defensive vanguard was led at the weekend by Trade Minister Mary Ng who expressed her disappointment that overwrought colleagues were overly concerned with overthrowing their leader. It’s not what Canadians want, she said??
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Still, perhaps unwittingly, she uttered the words that have ushered many a political leader to the dustbin of history: “I have full confidence in Justin Trudeau as my leader.”

Expect “full confidence” to be expressed in the most robust terms, with the utmost vigour, and in increasingly strident tones, by Cabinet ministers in the days to come.

The prime minister will demand it. Cabinet ministers will comply. The public will be told. And we will all be none the wiser as to how much support Trudeau has.
The Globe and Mail spoke with 15 Liberals, including 10 MPs for this story. All of them denied being part of the latest revolt and many of them noted that rumours of an organized ouster have been circling in the Liberal caucus for months.

The Globe is not naming the sources so they could speak freely without fear of repercussion. Two of the MPs who were named by other sources as key organizers in the latest attempt to remove the Prime Minister said they had no part in the revolt.
Trade Minister Mary Ng said Friday she had full confidence in Trudeau as word began to spread about a growing revolt.
…Then Sunday morning news in literally the middle of the thanksgiving long weekend. How ‘bout that?
…&…speaking of Liberal knives coming out…If the latest polls are to be believed, the Conservatives are on course for a 220-plus seat majority. That could leave the Liberals, Canada’s so-called “natural governing party,” in danger of being exiled to the far reaches of the House of Commons chamber as the third party, behind the Bloc Québécois, which doesn’t much care what happens beyond the borders of Quebec.

In such a circumstance, there would be a temptation among many newly-appointed senators to form the unofficial opposition in residence, acting as a check on unfettered power of a majority government prime minister.

There are concerns in the Conservative caucus — and also among Bloc MPs — that the denizens of the Red Chamber are already auditioning for the role.
All misinformation from ChinaIndiaRussia. Whatever the flavour of the week to control Canadian erection. Or something like that.
 
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Trudeau casually tossing ex-Liberal Dong under the big red tour bus, even as he pledged never to “us(e) national security information for partisan purposes,” (‘cuz it’s 2015-ish?) should be a stark reminder to MPs who weren’t in the prime minister’s wedding party: You could well be next — if not because of foreign interference, real or alleged, then because, like Jody Wilson Raybould, you’re just doing your job properly; or, like Jane Philpott, you’re just standing up for a colleague who’s doing her job properly; or, like Maryam Monsef, lumbered with an electoral-reform file in which Trudeau now admits he had zero interest, you’re just a collateral-damage nobody. (Meanwhile, Bill Blair just continues failing upwards.)

CTV News amusingly reported this week that multiple Liberal MPs are now willing to express their discontent to the prime minister “verbally” — as opposed to in mime, say, or in a specially commissioned opera — which raises the obvious question of who comes next.
The widely mooted notion of Mark Carney taking over is absurd in more ways than it makes sense. “Michael Ignatieff 2.0” is an entirely reasonable outcome for Liberals to fret about. Or, rather, it would be reasonable to fret about if Trudeau weren’t already in danger of driving the big red bus in that same ditch. Mainstreet Research’s latest poll had the Liberals at 19 per cent support nationwide among “decided and leaning voters,” which is the astonishing nadir Ignatieff managed on election day in 2011.

Most polls have Trudeau safely in the low-to-mid 20s. But that still spells four years, at least, in the political wilderness, and Liberal MPs are clearly aware of the peril, if not already resigned to defeat. We learned Thursday that four Liberal cabinet ministers won’t be running in the next election.
1729256693753.jpegNone of the four represent ridings the Liberals are dead-certain to lose. But opposition is a lot less fun than government, even if, like Lower B.C. Mainland MP Carla Qualtrough, you’re just the “minister of sport and physical activity.”

Barring shocking developments, the Liberals seem certain to lose government no matter who carries the flag into Canada’s 45th federal election. I live, and of necessity spend most of my time, in extremely Liberal-friendly ridings. And I have never seen anything remotely like the antipathy people in that universe have towards Trudeau.

I have heard plenty of Toronto barstool complaints about prime ministers before. Paul Martin? Ditherer. Jean Chrétien? Thuggish bumpkin. Brian Mulroney? Crook. Stephen Harper? Hitler reincarnated. I have never seen people flinch at the sight of a PM’s face or the sound of his voice like many now do with Trudeau.
The Liberals should be treating anyone of any stature whatsoever who’s willing to donate his or her body to the cause of the next election like a conquering hero. If it’s Mark Carney, so be it. At least he’s not tarred with the current government’s record.
And at the risk of sounding a bit naive, there is also the good of the country to consider. This foreign-interference debacle needs sunlight and bleach in equal measure, and instead it has become yet another partisan bun fight. We deserve better.
 

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Maybe the Liberals are bringing out the “Butter” knives against Trudeau (?) in a non-disposable green nerf version of things???

POLITICO spoke with more than two dozen Liberal members of parliament who were granted anonymity so they could speak freely about the state of their caucus.

While the push to get Trudeau to leave is not pushy, the secret plan became front-page news after some strategicanonymous leaks. MPs were becoming increasingly frustrated with Trudeau and his chief of staff, Katie Telford, over their lack of political strategy, and wanted to catch their attention, so they tipped off the media of their plan to share a signed statement calling on him to resign.

Not all lawmakers in the 153-member Liberal caucus have seen the paperwork, but few say they are surprised. Everyone wants to hear Trudeau and Telford share their plans for the party's future, including how they’ll convince voters Liberals deserve a fourth term after almost nine years in office.

“People are looking at the forthcoming election as a change election. The big question is, what kind of change will the Liberals offer,” Liberal MP Ken Hardie told POLITICO.

“You could change the leader or you can change what the leader leads.”

Hardie would not tell POLITICO which option he prefers. He said he wants to first share his views with his caucus on Wednesday….like clickbait.

The prime minister’s tailspin is a problem for the governing Liberals, which essentially became “the Trudeau party” after he led his third-place party to majority government status.

Liberal MP Chandra Arya wrote the caucus last week to say that while he "is not a fan of [the] establishment," Trudeau would have to do. Possible successors such as Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland, Innovation Minister François-Philippe Champagne, Treasury Board President Anita Anand and former Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney remain relatively unknown to Canadians….all of which carry the stench of Trudeau’s association including now Mark Carney who’s looking for a 10 Billion dollar handout from the Canadian taxpayers for another entity while working for the Liberal Party ‘cuz conflict of interest???

"We don't have a quasi-designated successor like Kamala Harris waiting," he wrote in the email, which was obtained by POLITICO. "I foresee a vicious battle for leadership which will fracture the fragile party structure with vastly different ideas and personalities — the results will be disastrous." Good times.

The Liberal party has no mechanism to oust the prime minister, but some Liberal lawmakers say they hope he'll take the hint before they escalate their efforts, which so far have been timid at best.

"We have a culture of loyalty to the leader at all costs," said Lori Turnbull, a political science professor at Dalhousie University. "We have a much stronger tradition of party discipline than in the United States." ???

Disgruntled Liberal MPs have refrained from abandoning the Liberals to sit as independents, or from voting against government bills to tank the party from the inside. And while no Cabinet minister has spoken out, several are said to be encouraging the efforts to get Trudeau out.
The MPs were set off by the prime minister's insistence that the Liberal machine was going strong. "You could literally see everyone's jaw drop," said the lawmaker who has helped to organize the statement.

Another collection of MPs eager for change advocated for a softer approach. A larger group won out, insisting the caucus should directly ask Trudeau to step down. And if that doesn’t work, they say they have a backup plan though wouldn’t share details….like more anonymous click bait.

Earlier this week Trudeau told media it was not the time for the country to focus on growing dissent within his party??? Really?
1729277147262.jpegCanada (=Trudeau & the Libs) announced Monday (Thanksgiving Monday) that it had expelled India’s high commissioner and five envoys after the RCMP revealed they have evidence linking members of India’s government to multiple homicides and other violence on Canadian soil….as smoke & mirrors to distract against the Chinese Shenanigans and Liberals tanking poll#’s and dissention in the Liberal Party and the disarray in parliament due to the Green Slush Fund and probably some other scandals that are ready to burst like the festering boils that they are, etc…
1729277241332.png“There will be a time to talk about internal party intrigue at another moment,” Trudeau said.😉
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“Right now this government and indeed all parliamentarians should be focused on standing up for Canada’s sovereignty, standing against interference, and looking to be there to support Canadians in this important moment.” Etc….
 

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"We have a culture of loyalty to the leader at all costs," said Lori Turnbull, a political science professor at Dalhousie University. "We have a much stronger tradition of party discipline than in the United States." ???

LOL The LIberals have a very sharp sword in the back room for any leader that loses an election. Party of loyalty my ass.