Much like a minority government in Canada can be a good thing. Depending, of course, on the number of fringe parties. With our current three and a half party system, it can also just lock Parliament into being totally ineffective.
Liberals bring out the Knives
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How do you feel about the term limits? I'm thinking 2 years isn't really long enough. And sometimes much too long.
Also is there any recall legislation?
Whiskey & Oranges, is bullshit, & Freeland is going to lose to Carney, & Carney thinks he can bully America back with green initiatives and reciprocal tariffs back onto Canadian wallets? Ugh….& the Libs have about 20% of the backing of Canadians, so I wouldn’t exactly call that a mandate.
We needed a federal election in Canada at least a year ago, but the sooner the better for the entire country, so that somebody has a clear mandate to deal with America and this whole horseshit situation, & in turn NAFTA CUZMA UNYMCA EIEIO USMCA that Trumps walking all over right now.
Selective Canadian tariffs of Wisconsin cheese & Florida oranges & Tennessee whiskey (or something like whiskey?) is just nonsense at this point.
If it gets as far as retaliation instead of negotiation, we’ll need to think differently.
Trump. He has a clear mandate to rule the universe. Just ask him.
They're anti-democratic. We never should have let the Republicans buffalo us into passing Presidential term limits in the 22nd Amendment.
Yes, it was the Republicans. They feared another FDR.
Back in Canada surrounding this Liberal Leadership race, Leading Liberal leadership contender Mark Carney unveiled his new climate change plan Friday accusing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre of “lying” to Canadians by telling them “they have to choose between the environment and the economy,” (???) and then he told Canadians a far bigger whopper of his own.
Carney claimed he’s come up with a new, magical system for paying the costs of lowering industrial greenhouse gas emissions where only the “big polluters” pay while average Canadians end up better off financially.
. That sounds sooo familiar, like it’s been a Liberal talking point before…?
Never mind that this is exactly the same discredited claim Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made to Canadians when he introduced his national carbon tax in 2019 that Carney – who used to be a passionate advocate of carbon taxes, arguing they weren’t high enough – now says he’ll immediately scrap as PM because it’s become too divisive? Really?
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The rest of Carney’s half-baked proposals, containing few specifics – those, we’re told, will come later – are all rehashed methods of reducing emissions that to date have left Canada nowhere near hitting the Trudeau government’s fantasy emission reduction targets, having never hit a single one so far.
Carney said while scrapping the consumer carbon tax, he’ll retain and improve Trudeau’s much larger output-based pricing system for large industrial emitters – essentially a cap-and-trade system, which is another form of a carbon tax.
Carney says this improved system (= the same but more) by which industries will be able to save money by pursuing ways to lower emissions will result in a bigger buy-in by corporations and global markets, when in the real world, 10 major Canadian and U.S. banks just quit Carney’s Net Zero Banking Alliance and the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero to reduce global emissions to net zero by 2050.
Finally, in the category of truth is stranger than fiction, Carney said he will create a “carbon border adjustment system” that – wait for it – would impose tariffs on imported goods coming into Canada if the government concludes their countries of origin aren’t doing enough to fight climate change.
Alternatively, Canadian companies exporting goods to other countries under this system, “could” (assuming they also have their own cap&trade system) receive export rebates to defray their costs when marketing goods in foreign countries where companies face less stringent carbon pricing than in Canada, but…does our largest & only physically connected trade partner have a cap&trade system? Has it ever?
Carney claimed he’s come up with a new, magical system for paying the costs of lowering industrial greenhouse gas emissions where only the “big polluters” pay while average Canadians end up better off financially.
. That sounds sooo familiar, like it’s been a Liberal talking point before…? But he has announced his intention to Resign (which isn’t a resignation, because who’s the current PM still). To say that he’s stepped down is disingenuous. Anyway…
Never mind that this is exactly the same discredited claim Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made to Canadians when he introduced his national carbon tax in 2019 that Carney – who used to be a passionate advocate of carbon taxes, arguing they weren’t high enough – now says he’ll immediately scrap as PM because it’s become too divisive? Really?
GOLDSTEIN: Carney’s ‘new’ climate change plan a word-salad of nonsense — Toronto Sun
Leading Liberal leadership contender Mark Carney unveiled his new climate change plan Friday accusing Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre of lying to Canadians by telling them they have to choose between the environment and the economy, and then he told Canadians a far bigger whopper of his...
Finally, in the category of truth is stranger than fiction, Carney said he will create a “carbon border adjustment system” that – wait for it – would impose tariffs on imported goods coming into Canada if the government concludes their countries of origin aren’t doing enough to fight climate change.
Alternatively, Canadian companies exporting goods to other countries under this system, “could” (assuming they also have their own cap&trade system) receive export rebates to defray their costs when marketing goods in foreign countries where companies face less stringent carbon pricing than in Canada, but…does our largest & only physically connected trade partner have a cap&trade system? Has it ever?
Anyone involved with the current regime is tainted.
Best to just stuff someone in who can ride out an election lose and hope to do something in 4 years.
While they purge their parties of anyone that was involved in supporting the Trudeau/Singh non-coalition coalition that definitely wasn’t a coalition-type coalition? Anyone that was involved in the last decade of Liberal scandals and graft and ethical shenanigans…or voted in lockstep to keep them hidden or investigated? Something like that?
The reason the federal Liberals can never be trusted on the carbon tax is that even as they seemingly abandon it, they refuse to admit they were wrong to introduce it.Carney claimed he’s come up with a new, magical system for paying the costs of lowering industrial greenhouse gas emissions where only the “big polluters” pay while average Canadians end up better off financially.
This includes both front runners in the Liberal leadership race…the former finance minister & the “outsider” that Trudeau/Telford and 56 other loyal Liberal MP’s (so far) are backing ‘cuz his policies are “so different?” than Justin Trudeau’s.
Instead of apologizing to Canadians for their half-baked, poorly explained policy that divided the country, while they insulted anyone who opposed it as wanting to let the planet burn, the Liberals even now refuse to accept responsibility for what they did.
In announcing what Carney described as his new climate change plan on Friday, basically Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s old climate change plan with a few tweaks led by scrapping a relatively minor component of it known as the consumer fuel charge – while retaining its much larger industrial carbon pricing component – Liberal leadership frontrunner Mark Carney blamed its demise on Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre?
(Pierre Poilievre is not the PM yet, & has not had a say in the Liberal government’s carbon tax policy scheme that they’ve imposed upon Canada)
“When Pierre Poilievre says we have to choose between fighting climate change and growing our economy, he’s lying to us,” Carney alleged, adding public opposition to the carbon tax was “fed by misinformation and lies quite frankly by the leader of the opposition.”
Accusing Poilievre of lying when you were a global cheerleader for carbon taxes up to a couple of coffees ago – even complaining they weren’t high enough – shows a staggering degree of tone deafness and lack of understanding of how the public would perceive such a startling reversal.
GOLDSTEIN: Why we can’t trust the Liberal reversal on carbon taxes — Toronto Sun
Even as the federal Liberals seemingly abandon the carbon tax, they refuse to admit they were wrong to introduce it
On Friday, Carney told enthralled Liberals as he announced his “new” (?) climate change plan, “I’m not a politician. I’m becoming a politician, but I’m not a politician,” apparently unaware that this is exactly how politicians talk – in doubletalk.
Urban Dictionary: double talk
Otherwise unnecessary verbiage added in order to confuse the listener, such as using a double negative to make a statement mean the opposite of what it would otherwise mean. See also, doublespeak.
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Former & briefly British PM Liz Truss discusses Mark Carney:
She doesn’t seem to be a big fan, but that’s only due to first hand experience I guess.
(For Tec, YouTube & “LILLEY UNLEASHED: Former British PM weighs in on Mark Carney’s banking reputation”)
(For Tec, YouTube & “LILLEY UNLEASHED: Former British PM weighs in on Mark Carney’s banking reputation”)