Liberals bring out the Knives

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The Liberal party is setting the entry fee for potential candidates at $350,000, sources said — a significant jump from the $75,000 fee set by the party for the previous leadership race…because…?

Candidates will have to declare their intention to run and pay the entry fee by Jan. 23. People (who are at least 14yrs of age, with a Canadian mailing address, but NOW they have to be Canadian citizens, & a free membership) can register with the party to vote in the leadership race up until Jan. 27.
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Previously, non-Canadian residents were allowed to vote in Liberal Party riding nomination and leadership contests, which have been called a "gateway" for foreign interference. A growing (not unanimous) contingent of Liberal MPs have urged the party executive to heed those warnings.

The party executive did not say if cabinet ministers would have to vacate their portfolios if they want to run for the top job…which non-cabinet ministers are worried about ‘cuz they can envision an abuse of power and privilege and budgets by these ministers because…ethics?

A number of cabinet insiders — including Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly, Innovation Minister François-Philippe Champagne, Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson and Employment Minister Steven MacKinnon — have said they are considering running for the top job, but said they want to see the rules first….& former central banker Mark Carney has also said he's interested. Former finance minister Chrystia Freeland, former B.C. premier Christy Clark and House Leader Karina Gould are said to be gathering supporters, too, so far, & prior to Thursday's meeting, Ottawa MP Chandra Arya and former Montreal MP Frank Baylis both said they will be running…so only 10 of them so far…
Lame-duck (?😳?) Trudeau has zero bargaining power with United States president-elect Donald Trump. As a matter of fact, expect Trump to ignore Trudeau now, as he has no desire to negotiate with a failed leader heading out the door, so while Canadian parliament is prorogued for the above Liberal goat rodeo to happen, the US government isn’t.

Parliament is prorogued until March 24. Then we could have the shortest tenure of a new prime minister in Canadian history as the Conservatives, Bloc Québécois and maybe even the NDP (?) will vote non-confidence after the Liberal Throne Speech.

If Jagmeet doesn’t flip-flop like he’s done consistently for more than 30 months consecutively, Canada will be thrust into a federal election and we will not have a new government until May or maybe as late as June….& if Mr Singh is already bought and purchased, we might not have an election until October 20th…or 27th if that’s the cost of the NDP’s rented loyalty.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Be nice. It's clever of her to realize she's a trainwreck, and good of her to spare Canada even more damage.
The whole cabinet is so scandal ridden, though that it’s hard not to. I will endeavour to try…. So I’m announcing my intention to try in the future.

That sounds so familiar for some reason like I’ve heard something like that recently?
 
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I wouldn't mind Christy Clark as leader. She did OK in BC despite being stabbed in the back by a few sore losers. Including Falcon, who managed to single Handedly destroy the BC Liberal party during an election.
 

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Anywho, nicely, I’m assuming Cristi Clark has looked at the polling numbers, and has figured out how popular the carbon tax is, especially seeing as it’s used as a political weapon applied differently, in different regions of the country depend depending on the odds of them maybe voting liberal.
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Then Mark Holland sounds like he’s planting a stink bomb due to detonate on somebody else’s watch. The new policy, Holland said, will come into effect April 1, 2026 so that he could scream about it from the other side of the aisle assuming he gets a seat this next go round.
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(healthcare is a provincial responsibility, but shhhhhh…Libs aren’t known to stay in their lane, and have no issue stepping on provincial toes, ‘cuz Libs gotta Lib)

Then, on the topic of stink bombs, practising his international diplomacy skills, thankfully not in an ethnic costume, on Thursday, our still-prime-minister-despite-a-resignation-announcement, Justin Trudeau, sat down with CNN’s Jake Tapper to discuss his own definition of climate change, how helpful his texts with California Governor Gavin Newsom have been for their wildfires, and how his own “compassionate and selfless” leadership is modelled after the recently deceased President Jimmy Carter? Really?

Then, suddenly, despite Trudeau’s consistent claims against the existence of a Canadian national identity up until this point, Trudeau revealed to Tapper, an American, sitting right across from him, that Canada does, indeed, have a national identity — it’s anything America is not?
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(Thanks Justin, you freak’n putz!!!)
The entrance fee to get trashed in the election is kinda steep. Will the CBC pay for their preferred candidate's entrance? How about China? WWF?
Hamas? Anyway, back to Trudeau being Trudeau while being interviewed by an American television station for an American audience, with his not so humble, Laurentian eliteness glaring through, proclaims, “Canadians are incredibly proud of being Canadian. One of the ways we define ourselves most easily is, well, we’re not American. There is such a depth of pride that that’s not actually an issue.”
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So, according to Justin Trudeau, our newly-revealed proud national identity is, and should be, not an identity at all, but an anti-identity. One set up in contradiction to another nation which happens to border us and is supposed to our greatest friend and ally. Just another departing gift from the dude who still hasn’t found the door, and is like the unwelcome guest at 3 AM after everybody else has left the party….
 
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Yes Tec, I’m really trying to be nice here. I really really am, & I think I’ve toned it down a bit.
I wouldn't mind Christy Clark as leader. She did OK in BC despite being stabbed in the back by a few sore losers. Including Falcon, who managed to single Handedly destroy the BC Liberal party during an election.
Falcon managed to destroy a provincial liberal party? Trudeau & his whole revolving musical chairs cabinet must’ve been watching and thought, “Damn, hey Dylan Mulvaney, hold my manly people-y Butt Lite Beer-like beverage!!” & then proceeded to destroy the Federal Liberal Party, with Canada as collateral damage.
 
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Anywho, nicely, I’m assuming Cristi Clark has looked at the polling numbers, and has figured out how popular the carbon tax is, especially seeing as it’s used as a political weapon applied differently, in different regions of the country depend depending on the odds of them maybe voting liberal.
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When the carbon scam tax was imposed in BC, the intent was to buy green votes, to keep them from voting NDP. And it worked for a couple of election cycles. The main difference was that the BC carbon scam tax was offset by reductions in other taxes, making it revenue neutral. There was no gifting Carbon scam tax money to people based on income either. It was only to be used for cutting pollution. That changed when the NDP seized power in 2016, and dumped it into general revenue and squandered the money along with much of the other new and improved taxes they came up with. Now, BC carbon scam tax is a wealth redistribution scheme, much like the federal version. Except we don't get a break on heating oil like the East coast does.
I was opposed to it when it was implemented, and still am.
 
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Yes Tec, I’m really trying to be nice here. I really really am, & I think I’ve toned it down a bit.

Falcon managed to destroy a provincial liberal party? Trudeau & his whole revolving musical chairs cabinet must’ve been watching and thought, “Damn, hey Dylan Mulvaney, hold my manly people-y Butt Lite Beer-like beverage!!” & then proceeded to destroy the Federal Liberal Party, with Canada as collateral damage.
Pretty much. The only difference is that Falcon was in opposition and the election was his to lose. Which he did. In Spades. I didn't much like him 25 years ago when I was involved with the party, and still don't. I was a riding association president at the time, so I had some dealings with him. Big city boy. His interests are not the same as ours.
 
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Except we don't get a break on heating oil like the East coast does.
Nobody gets a break on heating like the East Coast does…& that was on a timer so they could claw that back after the next election but you know what they say:
 

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I wouldn't mind Christy Clark as leader. She did OK in BC despite being stabbed in the back by a few sore losers. Including Falcon, who managed to single Handedly destroy the BC Liberal party during an election.
When Christie Clark won the leadership and the following election she was a well known and liked figure due to her radio show . She will not have that advantage nationally . She best save her sponsors money .
 

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When Christie Clark won the leadership and the following election she was a well known and liked figure due to her radio show . She will not have that advantage nationally . She best save her sponsors money .
Well…maybe, & maybe not. Last I heard among the almost a dozen liberal candidates for the next leader/PM (briefly), Christie Clark was favoured by 4% of liberals…but she’s the only one (as far as I know) that hasn’t served under and alongside Justin Trudeau.
(except maybe Christie Clark)
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Now this poll is like, 100 days old, so there’s probably something out there much more recent….& maybe her appeal has doubled or tripled to 8% or 12% or even more?
 

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Well…maybe, & maybe not. Last I heard among the almost a dozen liberal candidates for the next leader/PM (briefly), Christie Clark was favoured by 4% of liberals…but she’s the only one (as far as I know) that hasn’t served under and alongside Justin Trudeau.
(except maybe Christie Clark)
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Now this poll is like, 100 days old, so there’s probably something out there much more recent….& maybe her appeal has doubled or tripled to 8% or 12% or even more?
She is photogenic and articulate , so that is going for her . Why she would want to be the sacrificial lamb is anyone’s guess .
 

Ron in Regina

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She is photogenic and articulate , so that is going for her . Why she would want to be the sacrificial lamb is anyone’s guess .
When Ms. Cullen told Ms. Clark the Conservatives confirmed she held a Conservative Party membership, Ms. Clark said she never received the card nor a ballot, and said she wouldn’t put it past the party to “manufacture” one of them?…but…

She told host Catherine Cullen that she’d “never” had a membership in the Conservative party, despite having told reporters numerous times in 2022 that she was a member and was voting in that contest to support former Quebec premier Jean Charest.

“I’m a lifelong Liberal but I joined the Conservative party so I could vote, because I felt like it was my civic duty to make sure that we were supporting candidates who care about the things we hold in common,” Ms. Clark told CTV just a week before the Conservative leadership vote in 2022.
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So…Christy Clark’s conservative membership is like Schrodinger’s cat?
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After the Conservatives produced a copy of her membership record — also circulated online by Jenni Byrne, a senior adviser to Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre — Ms. Clark walked back her comments.
“I misspoke,” she said in a statement posted to social media. Whoopsies! Maybe the Conservatives “didn’t” (?) manufacture it then?
“I’m thinking carefully about running because he (Pierre Poilievre) still needs to be stopped...because…? But if we (we whom?) want to do that, our party has to accept change. Sticking with the status quo is a losing strategy.” Really? You think?
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Ms. Clark had emerged as an early potential front-runner in the Liberal leadership contest to replace eventually departing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, with other front-runners including former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney and former finance minister Chrystia Freeland.

Field of contenders for Liberal leadership narrows as MPs throw support to Freeland and Carney

Former Liberal environment minister Catherine McKenna, who is backing Mr. Carney, criticized Ms. Clark.

“Dear Liberals: I can confirm that Christy Clark is a Conservative. Worse: She thinks politics is saying whatever is required to win,” Ms. McKenna wrote on social media, & this is coming from Climate Barbie who was replaced by Steven Guilbeault…
 

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Already 1 scandal under her belt. A perfect Lieberal leader.
One? Here’s forty others:
The first one is similar to her above accusation against the Federal Conservatives…so there’s a pattern here.

Without any evidence whatsoever, Clark claimed the opposition NDP had launched a cyber attack against the BC Liberal website. While that might sound like the dictionary definition of “lying” to you, Clark later clarified she had merely “jumped to conclusions.” Etc…
 

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In the leadership race to replace him, Justin Trudeau is all but laying his hands upon Mark Carney.Former top advisor Gerald Butts is part of Carney’s campaign team while others close to Trudeau, including Trudeau’s chief of staff Katie Telford, are making calls on Carney’s behalf.
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(I think they mean Freeland & not Clark but…?)

Carney’s campaign denied anything untoward in being photographed with one of the most famous sex-traffickers in the world, they said she was simply a friend of his sister-in-law and he met her before her charges or notoriety. These took place on the massive estate of Carney’s sister in-law Lady Tania Rotherwick.
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(Maxwell has been described as an old friend of Rotherwick and a frequent guest at her homes and the Wilderness Festival. “From at least 1994, up to and including in or about 2004, Ghislaine Maxwell assisted, facilitated and participated in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom and ultimately abuse victims known to Maxwell and Epstein to be under the age of 18,” a statement from the New York District Attorney’s Office said when Maxwell was convicted in 2022)

A source in the Conservative party denied they had anything to do with releasing these photos and pointed the finger at one of Carney’s rivals for the Liberal leadership. In the world of politics, that isn’t so farfetched; the most vicious fights are often within the same party.
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In party leadership races, the attacks from inside are often vicious. And while Freeland has yet to face those attacks from inside the Liberal tent, she should expect them. The big knock against Freeland’s candidacy has been that she was too close to Trudeau, his right hand.

With Trudeau and his team rallying behind Carney, that becomes less of a hit for Freeland and a potential knock for Carney.
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So, Trudeau and his team are throwing their support behind Carney, the man who looks like he came from central casting. While being the chosen candidate of Trudeau and his closest advisors will come with benefits, it may also be off-putting for Liberals who believe the party needs renewal and change to gain the trust of Canadians.

Then, in the separation of potential candidates from Trudeau, neither Carney or Freeland have that…& isn’t Mark Carney the godfather to Freeland’s children?
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