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Well, how ‘bout that? According to a source close to the minister, “Frankie Bubbles” believes the party would be well served by another leader from Quebec, especially with the rise of the Parti Québécois and its promise to hold a referendum on Quebec independence in a first term.
However, the idea of the next leader being from Quebec does not fit with the party’s tradition of alternating francophone and anglophone leaders? Really? So only 1/2 the leaders of the entire nation potentially have to come from Quebec by Liberal tradition? ‘Cuz its 2015-ish?

“There is always an alternation, and I don’t think it’s the turn of Quebecers to become leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. I think the next leader will come from Ontario,” former provincial cabinet minister Christine St-Pierre said in an interview.

According to sources, Champagne is not the only Quebec MP considering a run for prime minister of Canada. Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly is also reportedly considering her options, and National Post has learned that Labour Minister and Gatineau MP Steven MacKinnon is also considering a run for the party leadership.
Their alternation is Anglaphone/Francaphone not Quebec/Not Quebec.
 

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Well, without clear and solid rules in place, more liberal infighting is coming with respect to their game of musical chairs around leader ship…& these clowns want to lead the country?
Former central banker Mark Carney, former finance minister Chrystia Freeland, Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc and former B.C. premier Christy Clark are building teams of organizers and strategists as they seriously consider running to replace Mr. Trudeau.

New names are also emerging: Employment Minister Steven MacKinnon, Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson and House Leader Karina Gould.

Also considering a bid are Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly, Transport Minister Anita Anand and Innovation Minister François-Philippe Champagne…so just those 9 so far…

A caucus meeting originally called by Liberal MPs to force Prime Minister Justin Trudeau out of his job will now pivot to finding consensus on the rules to replace him, with some set to argue for tighter criteria around who can vote as a safeguard against foreign interference.

Some Liberals will also demand that cabinet ministers step aside if they are running for the party leadership. Candidates likely have until the weekend to make a decision, with the formal rules for the race expected to land any day. Parliament resumes on March 24 and Liberals want a new leader in place by then.

So with nine contenders, so far, they will have their vote, and if nobody has a clear consensus of more than 50%, when they dropped the person off the bottom and do it again, and if nobody has a clear consensus, and they dropped the person off the bottom and do it again… so we’re looking at potentially eight rounds at this point…before March 24???

One cabinet minister said MPs plan to press Mr. Trudeau and the Liberal Party national executive to require ministers to step down if they wish to run for the leadership.

The source said cabinet ministers could leverage their positions, staff and privileges to advance their leadership. It would also open the door to possible conflicts of interest in terms of fundraisers and other ethical trouble spots. Liberal Ministers involved in conflict of interest and ethical issues? Say it isn’t so!! I guess it can be an issue though if you’re another MP & not just the Canadian public.

The minister, as well as four MPs, told The Globe Tuesday there will also be a pitch to change party rules so that only permanent residents or citizens are allowed to vote in the leadership contest. Currently non-Canadian residents are allowed to vote in Liberal Party riding nominations and leadership contests, because inclusiveness.

MPs are also expected to call for tighter rules to ensure that membership sign-ups are not abused. The party will be asked to eliminate prepaid credit cards and restrict membership sales to valid and verifiable credit cards??? But…but Trudeau was just defending these loose rules ‘cuz big tent openness?

One MP said the majority of the Liberal caucus want the party’s grassroots to choose the leader, but they have serious concerns about foreign interference and how that will be managed?? Now the liberals are concerned about foreign interference?

The Liberal Party declined to say whether it would change the rules for the leadership race and defended its existing policies for members, etc…’cuz it’s not like the clock is ticking or anything.

A caucus meeting originally called by Liberal MPs to force Prime Minister Justin Trudeau out of his job will now pivot to finding consensus on the rules to replace him, with some set to argue for tighter criteria around who can vote as a safeguard against foreign interference.
 

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Maybe the Libs can shave a week off their selection process now as the entire nation waits for them.

I’m still wondering how they’re gonna get around the whole March 24th deadline because they must have something in their back pocket to stall the rest of the nation, and I’m suspecting that’s Jagmeet Singh.
 
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Maybe the Libs can shave a week off their selection process now as the entire nation waits for them.

I’m still wondering how they’re gonna get around the whole March 24th deadline because they must have something in their back pocket to stall the rest of the nation, and I’m suspecting that’s Jagmeet Singh.
Of course , he will not support the non confidence motion as it wouldn’t be fair with the liberals in a leadership race .
 

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Maybe the Libs can shave a week off their selection process now as the entire nation waits for them.

I’m still wondering how they’re gonna get around the whole March 24th deadline because they must have something in their back pocket to stall the rest of the nation, and I’m suspecting that’s Jagmeet Singh.
Who in their right mind would want to captain a rudderless ship that is floundering on the rocks ?
 

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Dominic LeBlanc says that he’s out of that eventual leadership race for the liberals, but Frank Baylis says he’s in.
Anita Anand is probably in, but she doesn’t know Frank Baylis so…phew? “I have no idea who Frank Baylis is,” Anand told the Commons Government Operations Committee.

(The sole-sourced March 2020 contract for 10,000 ventilators came in at $237 million and was made with an obscure company, FTI Professional Grade, formed just one week before the contract was awarded. The subcontract manufacturer of the ventilators, however, was Baylis Medical, run by one-term Liberal MP Frank Baylis, who had not run for reelection in September 2019).

Baylis was a heavy Liberal donor for years & years before entering politics so there’s no reason Liberals would be familiar with who he was even after he was an MP, etc….
 

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Sources in the nation’s capital suggest to the Toronto Sun the internal party vote to select the next leader of the federal Liberals is expected to take place March 1, and may come with an entrance fee as high as $500,000.

If accurate, that would make the membership sign-up cut-off date around Jan. 19, “assuming” the party sticks to the 41-day rule listed in the party’s constitution.

Party officials have previously said that the coming race to decide the successor to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would come with no changes to the party’s rules.
So if you’re 14yrs old or older, live on the planet Earth, & can arrange a Canadian mailing address, regardless of your nationality…to get your free membership, you too can be part of the Liberal Party’s selection process for its new leader who will become the news Prime Minister without a Canadian Federal Election.
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“The national board is having formal and informal meetings all this week to discuss the next steps of a leadership race, after Justin Trudeau announced his intent to resign (not an actual resignation) as party leader Monday,” Liberal Party of Canada spokesperson Parker Lund said, explaining that establishing the rules for the race will take some time.
 
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Or a dick.
Seriously though, I think there’s something already set up, regarding this March 24 date…& a procurement bill that needs to get passed in Parliament, it’s something like the scenario that I’ve speculated towards must already be in place (quietly, of course)…. Because this whole leadership race in order to have somebody be the leader and Prime Minister for days or hours or weeks…. It just doesn’t make sense.

Somebody is already bought and paid for, & that fits Jagmeet’s…pattern…even if it’s just a handful of magic beans, but I think it’s more than that and I think it’s outside of direct Canadian representative politics. Again, it’s just speculation on my part, but we’ll see.
 
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Seriously though, I think there’s something already set up, regarding this March 24 date…& a procurement bill that needs to get passed in Parliament, it’s something like the scenario that I’ve speculated towards must already be in place (quietly, of course)…. Because this whole leadership race in order to have somebody be the leader and Prime Minister for days or hours or weeks…. It just doesn’t make sense.

Somebody is already bought and paid for, & that fits Jagmeet’s…pattern…even if it’s just a handful of magic beans, but I think it’s more than that and I think it’s outside of direct Canadian representative politics. Again, it’s just speculation on my part, but we’ll see.
This is like the Biden/Harris thing, where they ignored the obvious: Biden's cheese was sliding off his cracker, and the Democrats needed to replace him. And just like the Liberals, they waited too long. I estimate that in the history books for the foreseeable future, Justin Trudeau's time as Prime Minister will be remembered as the biggest boondoggle ever to go left unchecked and unbridled.

There will be revisionists who will say that he acted for Canada during the pandemic. But we now know they lied and smiled and vilified a demographic of Canadians while freezing their bank accounts and holding them without bail on what was essentially a mischief charge. They lied about the vaccine; they told us that it would stop us from getting and spreading COVID-19, and then they said the convoy people and the anti-vaxxers were spreading it. That was a blatant lie. You can look it up, if you don't believe me. There are plenty of news bites. Justin Trudeau thoroughly exploited the pandemic for political gain. There was also great personal enrichment from blind trusts that turned 2 million in over 100 million in nine years.

I hear some people still saying that the Liberals did good, and I ask, "What good did they do?" They used 100s of billions of taxpayer dollars to buy favor among groups like the Alphabet folks. They became drug dealers and did an excellent job of opening up the Fentanyl market possibilities, what with addiction now exploding in Canada like never before.

They priced a generation out of homeownership, with 1100 homeless encampments in Ontario alone.

They invited a million people to Canada but had nowhere to put them. Our foreign students and worker programs have become the underground railroad for illegal aliens. They made Canada a haven for terrorism, from Khalistani to Islamic. They have increased criminal activity with their revolving door bail system.

Canada is so fucked on every level that I doubt we will ever get back to where we were pre-Justin Trudeau.
We won't be debt-wise, not in my lifetime, anyway.

We are emerging from a neo-socialist wet dream.
And this is the fucking wet spot they left us.
 

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Regardless of who could take on leadership, a large majority of Canadians — 86 per cent — say even with Trudeau no longer in the top spot, the party would struggle to win the next election.

Another 77 per cent say his resignation is too little, too late for the Liberals.
 

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In front of Rideau Hall, Trudeau insisted that “a new prime minister and leader of the Liberal party will carry its values and ideals into that next election.”

If after the last decade, the Liberal Party became the Trudeau Party, is carrying its values and ideals into that next election what most of Canadians want or what Canada needs?
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What values and ideals? These are not Paul Martin or Jean Chrétien Liberals. This is not a centrist Liberal party anymore. It has gladly shifted far to the left, behaving like the NDP, and has top cabinet ministers in foreign affairs dispensing of moral clarity, appeasing their demographics and putting winning their seat above Canada’s relationship with democratic Israel. This is a Liberal party that doesn’t seem to hold any values or ideals other than winning at all costs.

We will have no choice but to wait until the new leader takes over in March to see if the party will continue on this course of what appears to be principleless leadership, but Trudeau’s words suggest that he himself hasn’t learned any lessons over the past nine years in respect to his government’s effects on the daily lives of Canadians, and that the only reflecting he’s done has been on himself.

The internal struggles of the Liberal Party of Canada to find a competitive leader for the next election is not a national imperative. What Canadians need in the next month is a new prime minister with a powerful mandate from all voters to go up against Donald Trump in tariff and border negotiations.
The glittering axe hanging over us isn’t the political fortunes of Liberal hopefuls Chrystia Freeland or Mark Carney.

Trudeau’s departure now opens the door to many questions as to when and how a leadership race could take place, given the tight deadline of March 24…which is pretty much impossible, & they know this in advance…so what’s the plan to make that March 24th deadline irrelevant?
SOmewhere in my reading, it said that the Liberal party rules state it must take 4 months to elect a new leader. Not if that is correct, but that will make the selection after an election must be held, assuming Parliament goes back in late March for a non confidence vote. And that is again assuming that the court proceedings against Prorogation is denied. If the court challenge is successful, the non confidence vote will be late January. Either way, it would appear the Liberals will be forced to enter an election with turdOWE as leader.
Some of this could be speculation by someone that doesn't know what he is talking about too. I don't have time to check it all out.
 

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SOmewhere in my reading, it said that the Liberal party rules state it must take 4 months to elect a new leader. Not if that is correct, but that will make the selection after an election must be held, assuming Parliament goes back in late March for a non confidence vote. And that is again assuming that the court proceedings against Prorogation is denied. If the court challenge is successful, the non confidence vote will be late January. Either way, it would appear the Liberals will be forced to enter an election with turdOWE as leader.
Some of this could be speculation by someone that doesn't know what he is talking about too. I don't have time to check it all out.
If you’ve learned anything in the last nine years, it’s that liberals & rules…rules are for peons, & they’ll do whatever the hell they want or need to do.
 

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…& that’s the top of their steaming pile.
Their “Best of the Best of the Best” aside from Trudeau, of course?
They have to find somebody that doesn’t have the “Trudeau stank” on them, so let’s see what they present. Which one will float to the top of the bowl?
 

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“Every single Liberal colleague that I have talked to thinks that Pierre Poilievre in the prime minister's office would be a bad thing. Anything that we do that makes that more likely, is dumb,” Casey said.
Hmmm….this was back in October, & Casey was talking to Liberal Colleagues, but apparently not the Canadian electorate…
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Way to read the room there buddy! “In the next election, I’ll be running against Justin Trudeau,” Poilievre told reporters at an Ottawa hotel.

“Whether his name is Justin Trudeau, or his name is Chrystia Freeland, or Carbon Tax (Mark) Carney, or Carbon Tax (Christy) Clark, they will all be Justin Trudeau.”😉
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Trudeau wasn’t rejected by his caucus because his fellow Liberals disagreed with his policies, Poilievre said.

“They said he’s doing a great job, it’s just that Canadians, unfairly, don’t like him anymore — and that unpopularity threatens their power, paycheques and pensions!”
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“So, right before an election, the Liberal MPs want to elect another Justin Trudeau, who has a different face. They’re all just like Justin.”
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Hmmm…sounds about right. Free memberships, but are these pets at least 14 years old (?) in dog years?
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Gudie, don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen. Jones and Hutchings join a number of Newfoundland and Labrador Liberal MPs who have announced their intentions to step back from politics ahead of this year's election. Avalon MP Ken McDonald, St. John's South-Mount Pearl MP Seamus O'Regan and Bonavista-Burin-Trinity MP Churence Rogers made their decisions over the course of 2024.
Top Liberal brass are meeting Thursday to try and hammer out how to run a race to find the next party leader — and Canada's next prime minister — seriously — against a ticking clock. As an executive member, Trudeau will be in attendance, sources told Radio-Canada. Sounds like fun times.

Liberal MPs who gathered in Ottawa on Wednesday for a national caucus meeting said they were keen to learn what governing rules the executive will set out, including whether cabinet ministers will have to vacate their portfolios if they want to run.
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Hmmm….this was back in October, & Casey was talking to Liberal Colleagues, but apparently not the Canadian electorate…
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Way to read the room there buddy! “In the next election, I’ll be running against Justin Trudeau,” Poilievre told reporters at an Ottawa hotel.

“Whether his name is Justin Trudeau, or his name is Chrystia Freeland, or Carbon Tax (Mark) Carney, or Carbon Tax (Christy) Clark, they will all be Justin Trudeau.”😉
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Trudeau wasn’t rejected by his caucus because his fellow Liberals disagreed with his policies, Poilievre said.

“They said he’s doing a great job, it’s just that Canadians, unfairly, don’t like him anymore — and that unpopularity threatens their power, paycheques and pensions!”
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“So, right before an election, the Liberal MPs want to elect another Justin Trudeau, who has a different face. They’re all just like Justin.”
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Hmmm…sounds about right. Free memberships, but are these pets at least 14 years old (?) in dog years?
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Gudie, don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen. Jones and Hutchings join a number of Newfoundland and Labrador Liberal MPs who have announced their intentions to step back from politics ahead of this year's election. Avalon MP Ken McDonald, St. John's South-Mount Pearl MP Seamus O'Regan and Bonavista-Burin-Trinity MP Churence Rogers made their decisions over the course of 2024.
Top Liberal brass are meeting Thursday to try and hammer out how to run a race to find the next party leader — and Canada's next prime minister — seriously — against a ticking clock. As an executive member, Trudeau will be in attendance, sources told Radio-Canada. Sounds like fun times.

Liberal MPs who gathered in Ottawa on Wednesday for a national caucus meeting said they were keen to learn what governing rules the executive will set out, including whether cabinet ministers will have to vacate their portfolios if they want to run.
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