Legalized euthanasia- Good or Bad?

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Yes, assisted suicide by giving rides designed to 'test your limits' where you have many rides to choose from. With a straight set of train tracks why not get some engines from some dragsters and the customer sits in a sled that is firmly attached to the rails and is capable of recreating the g-force of whatever class of engine you are running. Mag-lev would give you the g-force but not the sounds and smell of an engine burning nitro fuel. For those there not wanting to 'bite the dust just yet' there would be 100's of miles of gentle trails.

Plus if you can't come up with some ways to make some coin of a place called 'Smokey Mountain' then the world has ended. It might even inspire some of the depressed to find a new direction before they kick the bucket.

Finding a PR firm that can turn many deaths in a weekend as reason to book early for the next one is on the 'to do list'. lol

The Last Ride Water Park and Crematorium something simple yet clear at the same time. Something that draws more, 'Oh's' than 'What??'
 
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It should be up to the states to determine whatever legal standard they choose. I believe Oregon is the only state where this has been legal for some time. I'm sure that perhaps one or two more may have subsequently legalized it as well.

It's a tough decision to make. But whatever the case may be, it's best to have people make their own rational choice so long as it is an informed one.
 

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I'm actually mulling it over as well. Depending on how things go I would be wanting to donate what I can to help someone and I suppose that this process would insure ummmmmm quality.........
 

Danbones

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Don't legalize weed because it might hurt you, but legalize killing your self instead...
Hmmmm...O.K.

Then take away the old folks' pain meds...
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That'll clear up some beds pretty quick... boomers will be in soon, gotta get ready for the rush... free up some pension money...
 

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On a case by case basis. Based on two things..............unbearable pain that can't be managed and no chance of ever being cured or returned to manageable health.
 

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There is a case for legalized euthanasia, much as there is a case for legalized abortion and legalized assisted suicide.


Hopefully, all of these decisions are not taken lightly.
 

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Funny how folks will take their dog or cat to the vet to have them humanely euthanized, but when it comes to people there is a morale or even religious dilemma. I support it, as long as the patient has a living will and the family agrees.
 

tay

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I'll tell you that for the first time since July I'm actually anxious. I'm just not feeling well.

I'm on Chemo via pills and after my first round the Doctor said he was pleased with the blood tests. I then asked about what I should be planning for. I was too nervous to spit the word 'prognosis' out but he asked 'are you trying to ask what's your prognosis?' and I said yes.

And the reason I asked is that when I first met him he said he had a few patients like me and they were still going strong after a number of years.

He said if they can get rid of the 'brain spots' I will be okay.

I'm pretty effed up right now because there's only so much you can do and basically nothing on your own to help things along.

I have put it in my will to not be, well kept alive in a vegetative state, but I will contact my Insurance company to see if death benefits will be paid out if I go the euthanasia way......
 

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I've been mulling this over a lot and have come to the conclusion that there are up and down sides to it, but I don't agree that it's necessarily something to be ecstatic about. I see upsides, one it's going to eliminate a lot of suffering and two it's going to free up funds to treat treatable patients. On the downside, sooner of later there are going to be untimely deaths because of it. As we know from the news, mistakes are made in hospitals every day. Any other opinions?

Don't mull it over a lot: when you will be in such terminal illness, the euthanasia may be good for you; although I think when your hour of death comes it may happen so quickly.
 
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Retired_Can_Soldier

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I'll tell you that for the first time since July I'm actually anxious. I'm just not feeling well.

I'm on Chemo via pills and after my first round the Doctor said he was pleased with the blood tests. I then asked about what I should be planning for. I was too nervous to spit the word 'prognosis' out but he asked 'are you trying to ask what's your prognosis?' and I said yes.

And the reason I asked is that when I first met him he said he had a few patients like me and they were still going strong after a number of years.

He said if they can get rid of the 'brain spots' I will be okay.

I'm pretty effed up right now because there's only so much you can do and basically nothing on your own to help things along.

I have put it in my will to not be, well kept alive in a vegetative state, but I will contact my Insurance company to see if death benefits will be paid out if I go the euthanasia way......

I hope you get well, tay. I don't always agree with you, but I like you and I think that goes for a lot of folks on the forum.
 

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On a case by case basis. Based on two things..............unbearable pain that can't be managed and no chance of ever being cured or returned to manageable health.
Ah so....if someone with a disease that incapacitates them physically and mentally ...... and could live that way another 40 years as a vegetable, should not be given the choice of assisted suicide before they become totally incapacitated?? There are now many more people with Huntingdon's Chorea these days because many were of child bearing age before the first symptoms manifested The offspring of those people have a 50/50 % chance of acquiring that disease There is a test available these days that can determine if they are of the 50% who were unlucky enough to inherit the gene.

Do you feel they should not be given the option of terminating their lives before they lose the capacity to do so? I do.
 

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Ah so....if someone with a disease that incapacitates them physically and mentally ...... and could live that way another 40 years as a vegetable, should not be given the choice of assisted suicide before they become totally incapacitated?? There are now many more people with Huntingdon's Chorea these days because many were of child bearing age before the first symptoms manifested The offspring of those people have a 50/50 % chance of acquiring that disease There is a test available these days that can determine if they are of the 50% who were unlucky enough to inherit the gene.

Do you feel they should not be given the option of terminating their lives before they lose the capacity to do so? I do.

I think that is pretty much whatJLM just said.
 

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I think that is pretty much whatJLM just said.
Quote:- " where death is imminent and pain is unbearable." In many cases ....death is not imminent nor pain unbearable.....Huntingdon's Chorea is only one such. In many there is no imminent death and no pain.....just the prospect of having no one bodily home.
 

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Quote:- " where death is imminent and pain is unbearable." In many cases ....death is not imminent nor pain unbearable.....Huntingdon's Chorea is only one such. In many there is no imminent death and no pain.....just the prospect of having no one bodily home.

Your comprehension skills are none existant. Reread JLM's post until you understand it.
 

JLM

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Line 'em up. Thousands die by the hands of their doctors every year. What's a few more?


Just a drop in the bucket compared to the ones they save, Cliffy. I never cease to be amazed by the quality of health care at V.J.H.
 

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There is a case for legalized euthanasia, much as there is a case for legalized abortion and legalized assisted suicide.


Hopefully, all of these decisions are not taken lightly.

My half sister (my father re-married near the end of his life) went to Switzerland and ended her life. She was in great pain with a degenerative condition with no possibility of improvement. She was also very much a grown-up. It was the right thing for her and therefore the right thing to do.
 

Danbones

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Yes and soon they will take away all or most of the LEGAL opiates and "ENDING IT" it will be the right thing to do for those with much less to trouble themselves with.
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gotta move those beds
 

JLM

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Do you feel they should not be given the option of terminating their lives before they lose the capacity to do so? I do.


No- you could be throwing away 10 or 20 years of useful and enjoyable life and besides, there's a chance there could be a cure by then. People who are not old and not suffering should not have the option of suicide!
 

Curious Cdn

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Yes and soon they will take away all or most of the LEGAL opiates and "ENDING IT" it will be the right thing to do for those with much less to trouble themselves with.
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gotta move those beds

We can only hope that they start on Midland.