Legalized euthanasia- Good or Bad?

MHz

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If you are heading west and you turn left you ain't going north.:)
That's right, so which direction do you turn as I turned left but then I missed the corner and had to turn around and come back so i turned left. I can see that lame *** excuse is headed for the cutting room floor.
Right is the correct answer. Updated as needed. The gas mileage may vary. If you follow the Muskeg route you need a full tank before you start so you will have to fill up at the prison and double back, the scenic route also comes with real dust but you also get a look at the back side of the lots that you get to by rail. Before that rail goes to that side there is the rec center on the Muskeg Road side . There is a Smokey Mountain to go with the Smokey River.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC6bo3XJnVQ

.:)

Or maybe Nordegg!
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petros

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Trust me, where this is leading you need a 'gone too far' sign also. Saves scratching the head, nothing more. . . . at this point.
 

petros

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My goloshes are stuck in the blender and set in dried pancake batter. Tire tube. B&E = bacon and eggs. Porcupine flagpoles sandwich meat fog form blowing. Mickey Mouse wears a Spiro Agnew watch.
 

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I don't know about anyone else but I sure as hell am ecstatic about this news.

If you are someone who doesn't like having to endure unfathomable pain and suffering, you would like it to.

Of course, if you're some kinda sadist who feels people need to foolishly carry on with life until their very last breath, then I guess you probably wouldn't like this concept.

That benefit was acknowledged in the O.P. but that is just one of several pertinent points- I also don't want to see people who aren't in pain or near the end of life "buying the farm".
 

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My goloshes are stuck in the blender and set in dried pancake batter. Tire tube. B&E = bacon and eggs. Porcupine flagpoles sandwich meat fog form blowing. Mickey Mouse wears a Spiro Agnew watch.
Now tell me your relatives wouldn't want you to have a nice safe vacation where nothing could go wrong, go wrong.
 

MHz

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Point 'B'
You need the map program but it is where it crosses the Cutbank River there is a skinny pit there too

What happens with life insurance?
Mine or the guests that come onto the place for some extreme sports and never leave kind of thing. I'm pretty sure that is covered in the 4 page waiver that basically says, 'Have fun, while it lasts.' and then some small decal from your insurance agent/ Team of Lawyers. The on the zip lines make sure the HA comes from a big case of the willies sign for and not the ones that come as the whole zip lines crashes to the ground around you in no flames as steel doesn't burn. I'm going to assume black ink is going to be the favorite color for obvious reasons that is reserved for guests of the 11teenth floor. (That would be at the top of the 11 story high 60 ft silo with the clear dome that is at the stopping location. The reason you stop right there is in the winter the valley to the north is at -30 and if a Chinook is coming it will hit that spot first and then you are at 0. The view from there has long sunsets because the mountains block the sun out before it is very low in the sky so the graduations takes more than an hour, good reason to be above tree height and below is the VR testing room for days when the trails are muddy (other days it is a paying kind of ride 30 miles from the nearest town, so sleeping in your car or tent is part of the admission price. Bear proofing would probably be my 'list to do things'
In theory the body could be left to the site if it came from a long ways off. If mass starvation is facing the planet I doubt the 'whee factory' will be much of a hit.
It's still big enough and remote enough that it would qualify for growing hemp and no fencing would be needed, lots of custom dozer work available though. The first area and the one when you jump across the Smokey are similar in design. The one on the other side is over a sand/gravel pit that is huge in area but only averages out to be 1 meter or less in depth. That is perfect as all you want to do is move it around inside a border so it suits your needs. Moving is an improvement so you can tax all of that in while you make a lot of all weather packed sand trails through a variety of trails over land. The ones that want to do the 10k on water can use the cat to peel back the moss during a frosty winter and the boaters will figure out the rest. A swamp trail is wave proof also as the moss stops the the 60mph wind from causing a ripple if it is a cross wind. Some of the better sites are also 'islands' of various sizes. Winter is the time to move in the heavy stuff and then the roads are high speed, just slippery.
This exile stuff isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
 

mentalfloss

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That benefit was acknowledged in the O.P. but that is just one of several pertinent points- I also don't want to see people who aren't in pain or near the end of life "buying the farm".

I don't know what that means.
 

Sal

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It is only making legal what has been going on for years. Those on dialysis with no donors on the horizon because of age or other reasons have the right to refuse treatment. They die within a day or so by simply shutting down dialysis. Anyone can refuse to undergo cancer treatments or refuse other sorts of treatments that are keeping them alive.......What is the reason for allowing those for whom no such treatments that are available to relieve a life of pain and suffering...... for refusing the same relief?? We treat animals better than that!! Why do humans feel that suffering should not be relieved??

At least humans are able to request relief. It seems other dumb animals are refusing to listen to the needs of those who cannot relieve their own suffering.!!
well from what I've heard, for some people it has something to do with god wanting us to suffer and not interfering with his will which supposedly we are incapable of understanding. I get confused by that rational because if we are incapable of understanding his will why do they think they know his will.

What it really means is " I know what is best for you and you are going to do it my way" And " we are going to make laws to do it my way and we are going to punish people who help you fulfill your personal choice if it is different from the choice I know you should make."
 

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That benefit was acknowledged in the O.P. but that is just one of several pertinent points- I also don't want to see people who aren't in pain or near the end of life "buying the farm".

So where do you think that's more likely to happen? In a system where end of life care includes termination of life, within the health care system, where there are things like medical records, consultations, and multiple people are likely involved? Or is it more likely to occur in a situation that kept quiet, outside the spotlight of society, in a dark corner somewhere?
 

Sal

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I don't know what that means.
his fear is that if we legalize the right to die people will use it to kill other people that are inconvenient in their life...

which might be able to happen about one in how many million...but relieves the suffering of most of the rest of us...if someone is that close to death, a few days won't matter
 

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It is only making legal what has been going on for years. Those on dialysis with no donors on the horizon because of age or other reasons have the right to refuse treatment. They die within a day or so by simply shutting down dialysis. Anyone can refuse to undergo cancer treatments or refuse other sorts of treatments that are keeping them alive.......What is the reason for allowing those for whom no such treatments that are available to relieve a life of pain and suffering...... for refusing the same relief?? We treat animals better than that!! Why do humans feel that suffering should not be relieved??

At least humans are able to request relief. It seems other dumb animals are refusing to listen to the needs of those who cannot relieve their own suffering.!!

I don't think most humans do. There's no doubt whatsoever there are situations where euthanasia is definitely the best course, where death is imminent and pain is unbearable.
 

Sal

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I don't think most humans do. There's no doubt whatsoever there are situations where euthanasia is definitely the best course, where death is imminent and pain is unbearable.
agreed they "likely" don't but they take some personal experience of some relative who had a vicious disease and died relatively peacefully so now they think that is possible for everyone with every disease known to man

they have zero medical knowledge and zero understand of how pain killers work in the human body or of what various diseases do to the human body and have done zero research on it......but they know and

they want to force others to do it the way they would like

and now they are losing that control so they are angry and completely shut down to new information

too bad so sad for them because now, I can do it my way