The problem may be if the tax man gets in the way and prices still remain beyond the reach of the low-income drug user. Then what's that guy/gal to do still?
Legalise all drugs, says police chief
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The problem may be if the tax man gets in the way and prices still remain beyond the reach of the low-income drug user. Then what's that guy/gal to do still?
What's the mooch thing anyway? I thought a mooch was someone like the guy who scams welfare when they don't relly need it. They are "mooching" off the system.
Legalizing doesn't change the price, just who gets to collect that money and who gets to supply. The government has entered into the growing of marijuana for medical use but it's common knowledge that it's inferior to even the poorest of whats illegal and costs almost the same as street pot.
There is real crime going on and police and investigative services should be used against that rather than wasted on the wasted. :lol:
Go into government treatment, then when released there will be no pusher there to give it to em. If they can't afford it, and it's not presented to them, chances are much better they won't fall back into addiction.
But if it's legalized then it will be distributed under the general rules we have for commodities under capitalistic economy. Convenience, everything so clean and easy. (Gentle Giant)
Taxes on one or two transactions certainly wouldn't be as high as dealer mark-up on God knows how many times it changes hands in the underworld. Yeah, it would be cheaper - but you also control sales, control "stoner" value and know who's using.
"mooch"? That's doc's word....
Wolf
"mooch"? That's doc's word....
Wolf
But dealer mark up is huge so it's not a very good measure.
Question is who would sell this stuff? The pulic or private sector? Then who and how is liability handled?
When you look at mark up of other commodities, taxes on vice are often higher than mark up. Same with Gas.
That's the whole point.... There is no dealer mark up if it's available from a regulated source. LCBO does it and it seems to work out fine for them. How much did people pay for bathtub gin in the prohibition? You take the gangsters and the traffickers, the pushers, the dealers and the suppliers out of the equation by selling at a much cheaper price - taxed and all - at your local NARCo store....
Wolf
Exactly. Plus no one babysits the potential alcoholic. I am not in favour of telling an adult how they may or may not use recreational drugs. You want to stick a needle in your arm and fry your brains I say, go for it. And I am serious. What is with this big brother is watching everyone, babysitting your weakness crap. You're an adult. Take the responsibility. It is costing way too much money and is totally ineffective. It is not the governments job to babysit dysfunctional people by enforcing laws that are outdated and ineffective.
And while we're at it, we need to lose the high and mighty moral ground and legalize prostitution. I don't give two hoots if two adults want to engage in sex for money. You want to use your body to make money via the sex trade, go for it. But I am gonna tax your ass and destroy your pimp and the gangs. That's going to cut out half of the crime right there.
Use our police force for solving crimes that count.
Because Trying to make Heroin and Cocaine and all sorts of other drugs that could kill you very easily if you don't know what you are doing creates a liability for the government. You can try and drink until you poison yourself but to do so, you have to know what it is you are doing and go to lengths to get there. Most people will simply pass out long before they poison themselves with alcohol. Not so injecting Heroin or Coke or Crack or what have you.
So you would trust the government to not make a mess of it?
Not to mention that all those criminals aren't about to just give up and go away. So how are you going to compete when you have to pay civil servant wages against a criminal organization that doesn't?
While prices go through the floor, the violence heats up just as it did with alcohol during prohibition.
If there's nobody stepping on it in line (adding other stuff to cover shortages or bulk it out - for those not accustomed to the term) no guesswork is involved in figuring out if the mix is 80% talcum powder or a closer-to-a-hundred mix you'd get closer to the source. The stuff is the same every time. That's where overdoses come from. That tablespoon is always the same size. So is the syringe. The percentage of product seldom is. It doesn't take as much if its pure.
Wolf
Government screws up everything it touches ... but it's also a LOT more accountable than HA or the mafia or the Red Dragon Tong or whomever controls it.
What leaverage do those criminals have if the market simply goes to the new kid on the block? Guess who has the bigger gang and the Law on their side?
Civil servant wages are jack shyte in comparison to what dealers take off the top. You think those criminals live for free?
Do you know what Prohibition was? As fas as drugs go ... prohibition is now! The violence goes when it's legal ... the same as booze.
Wolf
Stoner Q&A.
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A: Stoners are like the ultimate paradox dude. On one hand they like totally don't give a crap and on the other hand they still don't give a crap.
Q: I heard that stoners like always sit around smoking weed and tripping out. What is their problem?
A: What's wrong with that dude? Stoners smoke weed [SIZE=+2]AND[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]are totally awesome.
Q:What do stoners do when they aren't tripping out or smoking dope?
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q: why is everyone like so obsessed with stoners, man?
A: Stoners are like the ultimate paradox dude. On one hand they like totally don't give a crap and on the other hand they still don't give a crap.
Q: I heard that stoners like always sit around smoking weed and tripping out. What is their problem?
A: What's wrong with that dude? Stoners smoke weed [SIZE=+2]AND[/SIZE][SIZE=+2][/SIZE][SIZE=+1]are totally awesome.
Q:What do stoners do when they aren't tripping out or smoking dope?
A: Most of their burn-out time is spent babbling, but sometimes they watch cartoons and eat junk food. (Just ask my friend Smokey if you don't believe me)[/SIZE]
q: why is everyone like so obsessed with stoners, man?
A: Stoners are like the ultimate paradox dude. On one hand they like totally don't give a crap and on the other hand they still don't give a crap.
Q: I heard that stoners like always sit around smoking weed and tripping out. What is their problem?
A: What's wrong with that dude? Stoners smoke weed [SIZE=+2]AND[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]are totally awesome.
Q:What do stoners do when they aren't tripping out or smoking dope?
A: Most of their burn-out time is spent babbling, but sometimes they watch cartoons and eat junk food. (Just ask my friend Smokey if you don't believe me)[/SIZE]
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