What exactly is their track record? Best in the world, middle or worst?
This was nothing but a waste of time and money.
Kitimat residents vote no on Northern Gateway
- Thread starter petros
- Start date
This was nothing but a waste of time and money.
That's just the point with this whole farce: at least half of the parties are living off government assistance of the first order. Take the natives for instance; they scream about the environment while net fishing rivers and streams AND living off of government handouts. It's allright with them if mister taxpayer keeps throwing money their way but god forbid the ROC should ever require some co-operation from them on making a buck or two off our natural resources. They have no problem screwing with the environment themselves with all of their snowmobiles and ATV's and 150 HP outboards on their big Ranger bassboats that need fuel up the ying-yang but it's all about their "culture". Cripes!
If it's TransCanada they object to and that have their knickers in a twist, then send that message instead of a 'no-way-jose' to the whole idea of getting crude stocks to the west coast. The rest of Canada should just stand by and let those stupid nimbies dictate to the rest of us about the marketing of our resources in an efficient manner? Are any fuel subsidies at the rest of our expense going to sustain them all having their little runabouts in the Kitimat harbour? Maybe $7 per. gal. to truck the chit up there would wake them the hell up.
Send the pipe east and fugg 'em while we force the feds to cut all parties saying no off the freak'n gravy train public teat.
To my naïve, limited ability to think, I think one of the problems with plebescites and referenda are the people who know little about the issue tend to vote "no" rather than "stick their necks out".
It's pretty obvious that being a loser is not a foreign concept to you, I guess being a loser in your case is innate.
You've got a good point there. In these sorts of conflicts it does seem like the naysayers are more eager to have their voices heard than the "let's build it" crowd.
Let's be realistic here, there is a huge amount of money at stake here, the government will do whatever they can to see that money (read: oil) flow, and there will be an environmental trade off to some degree. The challenge is keeping a sufficiently diligent regulatory structure in place to ensure that safety and environmental responsibility are kept in the forefront, and that that structure is given the legal "teeth" for proper enforcement. Business is business and the low-bidder mindset will prevail unless forced to do otherwise.
I don't understand the voting in Kitimat. It is (for all intents and purposes) a "one horse town" located 38 miles from the next nearest town that is also struggling. From what little I know Kitimat's population is mainly young people, who you would think would want some employment more or less guaranteed! Somebody is bullsh*tting somebody!
It was a dog & pony show to give hose people the illusion of having some input before common sense moves ahead with the pipeline and loading facility. We have been ramping up here for 2 years now to be ready to supply the gas for SE Asia. There is no way 8500 people (that's the entire population, not just those who voted no) are going to stand in the way of a 20 billion dollar project that is estimated to generate $1 trillion in revenue and spinoffs in the next 25 years. My advice to those living in Kitimat who don't want to see the pipeline and facility....move now before construction starts.
Yeah, I don't know why people who don't want to work live in a resource based city, that is fairly isolated. Even if you are the candlestick maker, if the resource based jobs disappear yours will too.
“This shows what happens when you actually give people the chance to vote on Enbridge’s proposal,” said spokesman Kai Nagata.
“What would happen if we opened it up to a provincewide vote?”
Kitimat rejects Northern Gateway pipeline in non-binding plebiscite
“What would happen if we opened it up to a provincewide vote?”
Kitimat rejects Northern Gateway pipeline in non-binding plebiscite
It's not a provincial decision, it's a decision based on national interest.
AB and other provinces allow BC p/L's, roads etc to pass thru their provinces based on making the country strong and working as a federation, this p/l is no different in that respect.
Much the same thing that happened with the Kitimat vote- the uninformed will always vote "no" because they are negative people, having said that Enbridge's record isn't exactly stellar, so their feet are going to have to be "held to the fire" or someone else is going to have to be hired to build it. Above all a way has to be found to do it safely- not stick our heads up our a$$.
I'm the wrong person to ask, the only one I was thinking of was the disaster in Michigan, you probably know much more than I. -
So you like everyone else have no clue that Canadian oil pipeline companies are the best in the business.
Michigan? The line they bought fro Conoco Phillips two weeks prior? Great example. Is that Enbridge who failed to maintain the line or Conoco?
Even you or I have 30 days to get our money back if we buy a product that is a lemon.
In some provinces the lemon laws can extend for years.
Michigan? The line they bought fro Conoco Phillips two weeks prior? Great example. Is that Enbridge who failed to maintain the line or Conoco?
Even you or I have 30 days to get our money back if we buy a product that is a lemon.
In some provinces the lemon laws can extend for years.
It is not in the country's best interests. It is only in the corporations best interests. Just as many jobs will be lost as created in there is one spill, especially on the ocean. Ask Alaskans.
Ask them what?
Ask them to give up the $900 cash dividend each and every Alaskan gets annually from oil?
What is Alaska's economic driver? Sled dog puppies or oil?
Ask them to give up the $900 cash dividend each and every Alaskan gets annually from oil?
What is Alaska's economic driver? Sled dog puppies or oil?
Last edited: