Kitimat residents vote no on Northern Gateway

damngrumpy

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The people held a plebiscite and decided they didn't want their quality of life destroyed
by something they didn't want. Now many may disagree but what if something moved
into you community and changed things forever and you didn't like it. Oh move that is
the answer eh? No people who are there are being asked to sacrifice for someone
Else's benefit and they said NO.
We can whine about the standard answers well its bigger than them, the port belongs
to all of us, this is Canada not BC. Well it is bigger than them but they are the ones
who will live with it forever. It is a port in Canada and BC and the people have to be
respected and their decision you may not agree with. That being the case we should
find out what can be done to make it acceptable the same as we would expect if it were
in our community.
I am not so much against LNG as I am where they are selling the fuel. I am willing to
concede Asia yes China No. We should not be selling energy to those we are in such
a competition with and a nation who does not respect the values of much of the world.
We condemn Cuba for example and we embargo them. China we fall over each other
to sell ourselves short and they are worse than Cuba could ever imagine to be
This story will play into the hands of those against everything though and it demonstrates
some accommodation is needed to have people accept what they are currently opposed to.
 

petros

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B.C.'s Douglas Channel is a proposed shipping route for oil supertankers carrying bitumen from the Alberta tar sands to Kitimat on the B.C. coast, from where it would be transported to the United States and Asia. Because of the risk of an oil spill, thee has been an informal moratorium on alloil tanker traffic off the coast since 1972.

Why Northern Gateway shouldn’t go near Great Bear Rainforest | Toronto Star
but the bauxite bulkers are a okay? How about the LNG ports being built?
Which has the worst potential for the region?
Bauxite, crude or LNG?
 

JLM

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So you like everyone else have no clue that Canadian oil pipeline companies are the best in the business.


That's good, there's times when I love being wrong! Maybe the people who voted "no" were like me, listening to people with faulty information.
 

petros

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That's good, there's times when I love being wrong! Maybe the people who voted "no" were like me, listening to people with faulty information.
Exactly. Chirp on about things even though they have no clue if it's right or wrong.

Grumpy... What makes LNG fine and dandy?
 

petros

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Order cable Cliffy. If you can't afford it move 60 miles east where they pay twice as much for disability. Odd how oil pays the disabled so well in AB and SK yet they make you starve in BC.
 

Cliffy

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Well, one should be able to listen to the news with some confidence of its accuracy.
You're dreaming. There is nothing on the news but propaganda, spin and BS. If you want the truth you have to dig for it under that pile of crap they call news.
 

petros

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Did you know people get paid from youTube? I could make a video and get $ per hit for disinformation as much as I could the truth.
 

Cliffy

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The research I did on the Marshall spill outside of the JRP process told a very different story, and lead the Fort St. James Sustainability Group to encourage the JRP through our written and oral arguments to consider and weigh heavily the Marshall spill report, and other reports on past, current-day and on-going Enbridge pipeline spills and incidents in their deliberations. In other words, we said: don’t trust them.
Through my research I learned that one of the “pervasive organizational failures” at Enbridge is still having an impact today, and will have well into the future if not in perpetuity; that is ineffective emergency response, which I looked at from a cleanup perspective.


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