Justin Trudeau will be the 1st PM to march in Toronto's Pride parade

[EagleSmack]

I care about what they think because those socially-conservative attitudes are still anchoring the rest of Canadian society, and they are the driving oppositional force against some of the progressive changes that still need to be made. These socially-conservative attitudes, as seen right here in this forum, promote the kind of hyper-masculinity that teaches today's youth, too, that you shouldn't sympathize for or be compassionate toward queer people — because if you feel compassionate for a queer person, you might be queer, yourself! (And that'd be bad, mmmkay?)

Hyper-masculinity... I don't know, I'd say that attitude is also in parts of the GLBTQ community as well in some respects as well as violence.

 

[Remington1]

Justin Trudeau will be the 1st PM to march in Toronto's Pride parade

Toronto's Pride organizers say Justin Trudeau will become the first prime minister to participate in the festivities.

Trudeau is expected to march in the parade on July 3.

The city's first-ever Pride Month launches June 1 with a theme of belonging and inclusion.

Along with Trudeau, Finance Minister Bill Morneau, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne and Toronto Mayor John Tory are also slated to take part in the festivities.

Organizers have said gay Syrian refugees will have a place at the Pride events.

Justin Trudeau will be the 1st PM to march in Toronto's Pride parade - Toronto - CBC News

JT and Kathleen sitting on a float, s i n g i n g, first comes deficits, then comes bankruptcies.

 

[CDNBear]

You've got an appetite for hyperbole this afternoon, don't you?

I didn't say that the prime minister's attendance is the signification that everything is perfect, I said that the prime minister's attendance is important because it's the first time that a sitting prime minister, our head of government, is going to be marching in the Toronto Pride Parade.

I said that I appreciate his commitment to creating a Canada where the rights and freedoms of LGBTQ* Canadians are respected and upheld, not that his single act of attending a pride parade is a magic wand with which to do it.

Uh huh, hyperbole, Canada doesn't accept the LBGT community yet. Gotya.

To pretend that LGBTQ Canadians already have a leg-up in their straight neighbours (implied with your belaboured mentions of "special protections") demonstrates more of a lack of understanding than it does anything else.

If you get beat up and called a fag, it's a hate crime. That's a special law. Enjoy.

I do.

Then you should seek professional help. I hear anti Injin sh!t all the time. I just ignore it and move on. In here I play with the poster before I get bored, and move on. I really couldn't give a sh!t what they think, because it really makes no difference.

I care about what they think because those socially-conservative attitudes are still anchoring the rest of Canadian society, and they are the driving oppositional force against some of the progressive changes that still need to be made.

You're legally accepted and specially protected. What more do you want? To force people to like and accept you? Hello homo-fascism. Is that trendy right now?

These socially-conservative attitudes, as seen right here in this forum, promote the kind of hyper-masculinity that teaches today's youth, too, that you shouldn't sympathize for or be compassionate toward queer people — because if you feel compassionate for a queer person, you might be queer, yourself! (And that'd be bad, mmmkay?)

And Prince Selfie marching in the parade will break down those walls? Ummm, ya.

Hyper-masculinity... I don't know, I'd say that attitude is also in parts of the GLBTQ community as well in some respects as well as violence.

And hatred. There's a fair amount of hatred in the LGBT community, directed at "Breeders".

 

[gerryh]

Uh huh, hyperbole, Canada doesn't accept the LBGT community yet. Gotya.

If you get beat up and called a fag, it's a hate crime. That's a special law. Enjoy.

Then you should seek professional help. I hear anti Injin sh!t all the time. I just ignore it and move on. In here I play with the poster before I get bored, and move on. I really couldn't give a sh!t what they think, because it really makes no difference.

You're legally accepted and specially protected. What more do you want? To force people to like and accept you? Hello homo-fascism. Is that trendy right now?

And Prince Selfie marching in the parade will break down those walls? Ummm, ya.

And hatred.

Holy shyte, I didn't think it was possible, but it looks like mentalmidget has hacked Bear's account and is posting in his name.

 

[CDNBear]

Holy shyte, I didn't think it was possible, but it looks like mentalmidget has hacked Bear's account and is posting in his name.

Ummm, ya.

 

[taxslave]

Wonderful news! Just over a decade ago, the government of The Right Hon. Paul Martin P.C., Q.C. tooks steps to make civil marriage legal irrespective of gender. It seems appropriate and fitting that it, too, would be a Liberal prime minister to be the first to attend the Toronto Pride Parade.

This demonstrates that The Right Hon. Justin Trudeau P.C., M.P., the Prime Minister, is committed to the rights and freedoms of all Canadians; he celebrates, with us, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms; and he seeks to create a Canada where LGBTQ Canadians are free of discrimination and persecution on the basis of sexual orientation.


Because it's the first time that a sitting Canadian prime minister has attended that pride parade with a message of "Actually, yeah, it's totally okay to be an LGBTQ person in Canada." Let's not forget that it was not so long ago that diverse sexual orientations were forbidden by law; in the context of Canadian history, the recognition of the rights and freedoms of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and trans* Canadians is fairly new (as is the Charter more generally).


The fact that it's 2016, and this is the first time a Canadian prime minister is going to be attending that pride parade, is why it holds meaning. The fact that folks on this forum are so comfortable with systemic discrimination against queer people, even here in this thread, is why it holds meaning.


Bull****.

That kind of homophobic garbage, where you perpetuate the idea that to even behave decently toward an LGBTQ person is in and of itself something indicative of homosexuality, is exactly why systemic discrimination continues to put up walls and barriers for LGBTQ people being fully engaged in our country's institutions and political systems.

"You went to the pride parade? What, dude, are you some kind of homo?"

Rates of attempted and completed suicide among LGBTQ youth are alarming. Studies have shown that these rates increase in regions where laws authorizing discrimination against LGBTQ people are passed. LGBTQ students are three times more likely to feel unsafe at school than heterosexual students. LGBTQ people are overrepresented still, in Canada, in terms of homelessness.

You are a part of that problem, with your schoolyard gay-labeling BS, so kindly **** off.

The fact is you are a shill for the worst PM in history. Beating his father for that distinction is an achievement.

 

[mentalfloss]

Ummm, ya.

It wasn't me, it was Andy.

 

[FiveParadox]

Trudeau considering issuing posthumous pardon to Everett George Klippert

The Right Honourable Justin Trudeau, P.C., M.P., the Prime Minister, intends to issue a pardon to Everett George Klippert posthumously. Klippert had been in jail since 1966, after a Court-appointed psychiatrist advised that his homosexuality was "incurable." He was convicted and jailed for four counts of "gross indecency" (having admitted to authorities that he had performed sexual acts with men), and was ordered for preventive detention (i.e., he was jailed indefinitely).

His sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court of Canada, although the Right Honourable Mr. Chief Justice John Cartwright, P.C., C.C., M.C., advised that the laws respecting homosexuality were unclear, suggesting that the federal legislature should have taken steps to clarify that "harmless homosexuals" were never intended to be targets of the law in the way that Klippert was.

Six weeks after the Klippert conviction, the Right Honourable Pierre Trudeau, P.C., C.C., C.H., Q.C., F.R.S.C., introduced legislation to decriminalize private, consensual homosexual acts between persons 21 years of age or older, in one of many major reforms that would be proposed and adopted by successive Liberal governments to make Canada a more welcoming place for the LGBTQ people.

Source: Man imprisoned for being gay to get posthumous pardon from Trudeau (CBC News)

 

[coldstream]

Despite being decriminilized.. in fact affirmed, celebrated, sacralized, expounded, promulgated as a natural expression of identity in schools and media.. given the highest accolade in post structural society.. that of 'victim', worthy of special protection and honour, .. practicing homosexuals still have an expected life expectancy 25 years below that of heterosexual males. Few of them live much into their 50s.

They die of suicide, overdose, violence (homosexual on homosexual homicide), disease, chronic substance abuse, self neglect.. and the immense stress that a promiscuous homosexual lifestyle (by far the norm).. puts on the immune system and organs as well as the psyche. They live lives of isolation and empty, transient gratification with hundreds of anonymous partners over a lifetime That's the way it always has been, and the way it always will be.

So thanks Justin.. how many vulnerable young people are you setting up for lives of misery and early death.. to promote your idea of diversity over moral and natural law.

 

[petros]

Trudeau considering issuing posthumous pardon to Everett George Klippert

The Right Honourable Justin Trudeau, P.C., M.P., the Prime Minister, intends to issue a pardon to Everett George Klippert posthumously. Klippert had been in jail since 1966, after a Court-appointed psychiatrist advised that his homosexuality was "incurable." He was convicted and jailed for four counts of "gross indecency" (having admitted to authorities that he had performed sexual acts with men), and was ordered for preventive detention (i.e., he was jailed indefinitely).

His sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court of Canada, although the Right Honourable Mr. Chief Justice John Cartwright, P.C., C.C., M.C., advised that the laws respecting homosexuality were unclear, suggesting that the federal legislature should have taken steps to clarify that "harmless homosexuals" were never intended to be targets of the law in the way that Klippert was.

Six weeks after the Klippert conviction, the Right Honourable Pierre Trudeau, P.C., C.C., C.H., Q.C., F.R.S.C., introduced legislation to decriminalize private, consensual homosexual acts between persons 21 years of age or older, in one of many major reforms that would be proposed and adopted by successive Liberal governments to make Canada a more welcoming place for the LGBTQ people.

Source: Man imprisoned for being gay to get posthumous pardon from Trudeau (CBC News)

Have you been to Pride?

 

[MHz]

I've been told I have no pride a time or two.

 

[gerryh]

Have you been to Pride?

What does it matter if he has or hasn't?

 

[FiveParadox]

Have you been to Pride?

Yes, petros, I have been to Pride. What's your point?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yes, petros, I have been to Pride. What's your point?

No gay people out in the rootin'-tootin' West.

No live ones, anyway.

 

[gerryh]

no gay people out in the rootin'-tootin' west.

No live ones, anyway.

wtf?

 

[davesmom]

The Liberals promoting gender equality, gay rights, diversity, all it does is create more division. All Canadians are supposed to be equal so they should be treated equally.
Governments shouldn't be going out of their way to show support for ANY special interest group for any reason. They should stay out of promotional displays like gay parades and show neutrality in controversial matters. Whomever they are showing public support for at the moment makes others feel left out and under represented.
If there was a 'traditional marriage parade' held (and why shouldn't there be?) and the PM and Prov. Premier took part I wonder how the gays and lesbians would react? I'll bet they would be offended to hell and back.

 

[darkbeaver]

I can see the point of having Auntie James protecting and being part of raising kids in the extended family setting. Uncle Louise servers an equal role.

Well I'm just human and I have aversions naturally aquired aversions, evolved aversions. Many human mutations are problemattic. Children should not be confused by fuzzy pictures.

 

[mentalfloss]

The Liberals promoting gender equality, gay rights, diversity, all it does is create more division. All Canadians are supposed to be equal so they should be treated equally.
Governments shouldn't be going out of their way to show support for ANY special interest group for any reason. They should stay out of promotional displays like gay parades and show neutrality in controversial matters. Whomever they are showing public support for at the moment makes others feel left out and under represented.
If there was a 'traditional marriage parade' held (and why shouldn't there be?) and the PM and Prov. Premier took part I wonder how the gays and lesbians would react? I'll bet they would be offended to hell and back.

You should start that up and see how it goes.

 

[davesmom]

You should start that up and see how it goes.

I don't think so. Advertising one's personal lifestyle is tacky in my opinion. To each his own and don't be flaunting it as something special.
Activities like the gay parade just make other people think, what the hell is so special about them that they have to advertise and celebrate? Events like this just serve to disunite society. Ethnic carnivals are another thing that pisses me off. We're all people, no one is more special than another.
I don't even like signs and symbols on bumpers and front doors signifying what causes people support. Who cares? Nothing is private anymore and I don't understand the need some people have to share their private preferences with the whole damned world.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I don't think so. Advertising one's personal lifestyle is tacky in my opinion. To each his own and don't be flaunting it as something special.

Then heterosexuals should stop doing it. Everything from Euripides through Shakespeare through TV ads has advertised the heterosexual lifestyle.

Activities like the gay parade just make other people think, what the hell is so special about them that they have to advertise and celebrate? Events like this just serve to disunite society. Ethnic carnivals are another thing that pisses me off. We're all people, no one is more special than another.

It's a reaction to their treatment at the hands of Old Stock Canadians.

I don't even like signs and symbols on bumpers and front doors signifying what causes people support. Who cares? Nothing is private anymore and I don't understand the need some people have to share their private preferences with the whole damned world.

OK, so much for free speech. Is there anything you don't hate?

By the way, did everybody get the hypocrisy of posting an opinion about how you hate people publicizing their opinions?