Justin Trudeau gets the job done.

[petros]

We'll all see the well prepared fruitful endeavors of his writing staff, as he actually evades tough questions on the economy among others, and instead drags the debate towards his new feel good, Canadian group hug policy.

Heeeeeey are you saying these political types have people who work for them behind the scenes doing all the real work and it's not a one man show being run from high up on Mt. Olympus?

Next thing ya know I'll probably find out they hire financial wizards, statisticians, writers, hairstylists, Doukhabors, lion tamers, industry experts and all round social gurus who could give a rat azz for who they work for as long as the cheque is good.

 

[Angstrom]

So your implication, is that while the rest of Canada is smart enough to see through an out of context quote and not let it influence their vote, the people of Quebec lack this intelligence and will hear the quote and vote for Trudeau in droves? I see no other way to interpret your assertion.

Let me make things clear for you. All the smart people that can see through the ad's where already voting for him. From Quebec or any where.
Many dumb people in Quebec where not planing to vote for Justin Trudeau. But now, thanks to the ad may be fooled into voting for him.
And all the dumb people in Canada that where not going to vote for him anyways Still will not vote for him thanks to the ad.

So, yes basically the ad helps Justin in Quebec immensely.
The conservatives handed Quebec over to Justin on a silver plater.

Win Quebec and win Ontario and that's all the liberals need for a majority liberal goverment.

 

[Trex]

Is that really the issue?

To be an effective teacher you need to be able to understand your subject, be able to learn new aspects of it and others and be able to effectively communicate it to young people who are rapidly developing intellectually and emotionally.

It's one of the most important disciplines there is in terms of creating a healthy society and some of the best teachers are truly gifted. To try and smear Justin Trudeau based on his vocation is silly.

I get that the business world is seen as the only one that matters to some people, many of them on the right, but our society is much more complex than what many of us do for a living. Having a PM that has a background in communicating effectively new concepts can be a very positive thing.

Its important because it tell us about his value and belief systems.
The fact remains that Education can be one of the easiest academic routes available.
And the teaching profession in Canada is controlled by the unionists who seem to think nothing of strong-arming the taxpayer for ever increasing wage demands.
By constantly threatening to disrupt or hinder our childrens education.

A part time drama teacher.

Gigs as a canoeing coach, bugee jumping instructor and camp councilor?
I would suggest those are not professions typically chosen by aspiring world leaders.
They are however the type of quick gigs that could be chosen by young pot smoking slackers.

Justin is good looking.
He is a good public speaker.
He ran for MP in a tough constituency and won.
And he was coronated the leader of the LPC.
And that is the complete upside.

Both Marc Garnaeu and Martha Hall Findlay were light years ahead of Justin both academically and professionally.
Justin is a lightweight who only has a couple of years to somehow try and mold himself into a potential leader of a first world Nation.

Good luck with that.

 

[Colpy]

Let me make things clear for you. All the smart people that can see through the ad's where already voting for him. From Quebec or any where.
Many dumb people in Quebec where not planing to vote for Justin Trudeau. But now, thanks to the ad may be fooled into voting for him.
And all the dumb people in Canada that where not going to vote for him anyways Still will not vote for him thanks to the ad.

So, yes basically the ad helps Justin in Quebec immensely.
The conservatives handed Quebec over to Justin on a silver plater.

Quebecers ran this country for far too long.

Quebec is no longer of primary importance on the electoral map.

That particular tail is no longer wagging the Canadian dog.

Deal with it.

 

[Angstrom]

Quebecers ran this country for far too long.

Quebec is no longer of primary importance on the electoral map.

That particular tail is no longer wagging the Canadian dog.

Deal with it.

As long as Quebec and Ontario votes in liberal he will get the majority liberal government.
NDP wining all of Quebec last election was the best thing to happen to the conservatives.
And now they just screwed that up

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Let me make things clear for you. All the smart people that can see through the ad's where already voting for him. From Quebec or any where.
Many dumb people in Quebec where not planing to vote for Justin Trudeau. But now, thanks to the ad may be fooled into voting for him.
And all the dumb people in Canada that where not going to vote for him anyways Still will not vote for him thanks to the ad.

So, yes basically the ad helps Justin in Quebec immensely.
The conservatives handed Quebec over to Justin on a silver plater.

Win Quebec and win Ontario and that's all the liberals need for a majority liberal goverment.

So your implication that anybody who's eyes don't flutter when they see Justin Trudeau or think that he is not the second coming of Jesus Christ, must therefore be dumb?

I personally have observed that there are many smart people supporting all sides. Some dumb ones too. It seems rather simplistic to assume that only people who agree with your political ideals could possibly be smart.

I don't think the ads were particularly effective but I don't really think they did anything at all.

 

[#juan]

How did Marc Garneau get light years ahead of Trudeau when he dropped out of the leadership race because Trudeau was
too far ahead. Are you saying that Trudeau had nothing but the votes? The Liberal party's fortunes have rose sharply since
Trudeau got there. He could have had a safe seat but chose to contest a riding that had been held by the bloc for years and
won it. Seems to me he is already a leader.

 

[Angstrom]

So your implication that anybody who's eyes don't flutter when they see Justin Trudeau or think that he is not the second coming of Jesus Christ, must therefore be dumb?

I personally have observed that there are many smart people supporting all sides. Some dumb ones too. It seems rather simplistic to assume that only people who agree with your political ideals could possibly be smart.

I don't think the ads were particularly effective but I don't really think they did anything at all.

Yes your right about the dumb and smart thing. I'm just having fun with it.
And it's much more complicated then that your right.


Still my message is...
The conservatives are wining cause they keep the population devided on NDP and Liberal.
The attack ad they put out helps Justin Trudeau win Quebec who is mostly NDP ATM.

And Ontario is already very close to being won by Liberal. With his name alone I think it will tip over the scale in his favour.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Yes your right about the dumb and smart thing. I'm just having fun with it.
And it's much more complicated then that your right.


Still my message is...
The conservatives are wining cause they keep the population devided on NDP and Liberal.
The attack ad they put out helps Justin Trudeau win Quebec who is mostly NDP ATM.

And Ontario is already very close to being won by Liberal. With his name alone I think it will tip over the scale in his favour.

I think McSquinty/Wyn may prevent any serious Liberal surge in Ontario.

I don't think the Federal Liberals are offering anything interesting. They have a pretty leader but how different are they really than they were under Iggy? Their lack of direction and way is responsible for the NDP gains. After the honeymoon period ends with Trudeau, I don't see them being a viable alternative at this point. Of course, there are 2 years and he could yet surprise me. But he has to fight both McClair and Harper. Difficult to do both at the same time and not lose their remaining fan base.

 

[Angstrom]

I think McSquinty/Wyn may prevent any serious Liberal surge in Ontario.

I don't think the Federal Liberals are offering anything interesting. They have a pretty leader but how different are they really than they were under Iggy? Their lack of direction and way is responsible for the NDP gains. After the honeymoon period ends with Trudeau, I don't see them being a viable alternative at this point. Of course, there are 2 years and he could yet surprise me. But he has to fight both McClair and Harper. Difficult to do both at the same time and not lose their remaining fan base.

All of Ontario mostly looks like this

14 000 Con
12 000 Lib
8 000 NDP

2000 old hippy teachers just changed there vote from NDP to Liberal.
That's from his name alone.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

All of Ontario mostly looks like this

14 000 Con
12 000 Lib
8 000 NDP

2000 old hippy teachers just changed there vote from NDP to Liberal.
That's from his name alone.

But those hippy teachers are probably in Toronto so won't make much of a difference as they are already in a Liberal riding.

 

[Angstrom]

But those hippy teachers are probably in Toronto so won't make much of a difference as they are already in a Liberal riding.

:lol: we will see

 

[Trex]

How did Marc Garneau get light years ahead of Trudeau when he dropped out of the leadership race because Trudeau was
too far ahead. Are you saying that Trudeau had nothing but the votes? The Liberal party's fortunes have rose sharply since
Trudeau got there. He could have had a safe seat but chose to contest a riding that had been held by the bloc for years and
won it. Seems to me he is already a leader.

I would suggest to you that Justin Trudeau is exactly what his background and past achievements suggest he is.
His father was a Socialist philospher academic.
Justin is not.

For the last decade or so the LPC has had the nasty habit of picking the party leader whom they thought had the best chance at seizing the leadership of Canada.
No thought at all given to a party platform, a way to lead and grow Canada into the future.
Just pick the guy with the best shot at grabbing the chalice.
Work out the pesky little details like party platform and the future of Canada at some later date.

Justin is the latest of the LPC's picks at a shiny figurehead who could be the perfect puppet in the quest for leadership.
Garneau saw that, it rightly pissed him off and he walked away.
Who can blame the guy?

Justin is now the coronated leader of the LPC.
If, at the very least, he cannot displace the Dippers for leader of the official opposition in the next Federal election it is my view that the LPC is forever lost.
Torn apart and rendered irrelevant.
Half the members will go to the Dips and the other half to the Cons.

Hope Justin is up for all that.

 

[lone wolf]

Its important because it tell us about his value and belief systems.
The fact remains that Education can be one of the easiest academic routes available.
And the teaching profession in Canada is controlled by the unionists who seem to think nothing of strong-arming the taxpayer for ever increasing wage demands.
By constantly threatening to disrupt or hinder our childrens education.

A part time drama teacher.

Gigs as a canoeing coach, bugee jumping instructor and camp councilor?
I would suggest those are not professions typically chosen by aspiring world leaders.
They are however the type of quick gigs that could be chosen by young pot smoking slackers.

Justin is good looking.
He is a good public speaker.
He ran for MP in a tough constituency and won.
And he was coronated the leader of the LPC.
And that is the complete upside.

Both Marc Garnaeu and Martha Hall Findlay were light years ahead of Justin both academically and professionally.
Justin is a lightweight who only has a couple of years to somehow try and mold himself into a potential leader of a first world Nation.

Good luck with that.

Resume like that reads like an image of Dubya or JFK....

 

[Trex]

I think McSquinty/Wyn may prevent any serious Liberal surge in Ontario.

I don't think the Federal Liberals are offering anything interesting. They have a pretty leader but how different are they really than they were under Iggy? Their lack of direction and way is responsible for the NDP gains. After the honeymoon period ends with Trudeau, I don't see them being a viable alternative at this point. Of course, there are 2 years and he could yet surprise me. But he has to fight both McClair and Harper. Difficult to do both at the same time and not lose their remaining fan base.

I would certainly agree with you that provincial politics are a huge factor in the next Fed election.
In Ontario there is the ongoing McSquinty trainwreck coupled with the current Wynne Horwath dance of doom.
Taxes and debt are going to skyrocket.
I dont see the Fed Cons loosing that much ground in fallout from the present Ontario fiasco.

In BC the Dips are going to gain control from the Libs.
And it goes without saying that there will be a few inquiries into the Provincial Libs ethics and spending.
All the Dips are promising so far are higher taxes and more public servants.
If Dix does a good job it could help out the Fed Dips.
If it's the usual Dipper financial disaster it could help swing a few BC Dip ridings over to the Cons on a Federal level.

 

[Zipperfish]

One of the problems I have with the Harper Conservatives is that they've never been comfortable with power. It's like they still think they're the Opposition. When you're the Opposition, it's pretty much your job to attack the government and disagree with everything. But when you're the top dog, you're expected to lead. The Conservatvies have been in power for years, yet still seem focused on being in attack mode 24/7. Heck, they're still blaming the Liberals for their problems almost a decade after the Liberals were all but banished from the Canadian political landscape.

 

[Angstrom]

I would certainly agree with you that provincial politics are a huge factor in the next Fed election.
In Ontario there is the ongoing McSquinty trainwreck coupled with the current Wynne Horwath dance of doom.
Taxes and debt are going to skyrocket.
I dont see the Fed Cons loosing that much ground in fallout from the present Ontario fiasco.

In BC the Dips are going to gain control from the Libs.
And it goes without saying that there will be a few inquiries into the Provincial Libs ethics and spending.
All the Dips are promising so far are higher taxes and more public servants.
If Dix does a good job it could help out the Fed Dips.
If it's the usual Dipper financial disaster it could help swing a few BC Dip ridings over to the Cons on a Federal level.

That's weird I've never once based my federal vote on what was going on provincially or vice versa.
Can you give me one intelligent reason why someone would do that?

 

[petros]

One of the problems I have with the Harper Conservatives is that they've never been comfortable with power. It's like they still think they're the Opposition. When you're the Opposition, it's pretty much your job to attack the government and disagree with everything. But when you're the top dog, you're expected to lead. The Conservatvies have been in power for years, yet still seem focused on being in attack mode 24/7. Heck, they're still blaming the Liberals for their problems almost a decade after the Liberals were all but banished from the Canadian political landscape.

Greed and ego will do that to pretty much anybody.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Its important because it tell us about his value and belief systems.
The fact remains that Education can be one of the easiest academic routes available.
And the teaching profession in Canada is controlled by the unionists who seem to think nothing of strong-arming the taxpayer for ever increasing wage demands.
By constantly threatening to disrupt or hinder our childrens education.

A part time drama teacher.

Gigs as a canoeing coach, bugee jumping instructor and camp councilor?
I would suggest those are not professions typically chosen by aspiring world leaders.
They are however the type of quick gigs that could be chosen by young pot smoking slackers.

Justin is good looking.
He is a good public speaker.
He ran for MP in a tough constituency and won.
And he was coronated the leader of the LPC.
And that is the complete upside.

Both Marc Garnaeu and Martha Hall Findlay were light years ahead of Justin both academically and professionally.
Justin is a lightweight who only has a couple of years to somehow try and mold himself into a potential leader of a first world Nation.

Good luck with that.

I wouldn't and won't count him out, there are a lot of undefinables that go into making a good leader, who can say for sure what this nation is going to need in the way of a leader in just a few years from now.

The current PM seems to have a completely locked mindset that has much more to do with the fortunes of the petrochemical industry of which he is a second generation member of than it does about governing a real democracy, does that make him a good choice for PM?

And teaching can be a calling for some people and it's almost impossible to quantify the benefit of their work in teaching a new generation to meet the always changing challenges of a highly complex world. They often get a bad rap, but without good teachers any society faces an almost certain decline in most areas.

Stephen Harper seems determined to avoid dealing with serious issues that aren't going to go away no matter how hard his government spins the facts and when that's not possible does its best to bury them in bureaucracy.

Justin Trudeau already has shown a willingness to be much more open minded which I think is an excellent quality in a leader of a democratic nation, especially one that faces the challenges we are now that will almost certainly grow rapidly in the coming decades. I think he's going to surprise a lot of his current detractors and confirm the opinion of people who already think he's the man for the role of our next Prime Minister.

 

[L Gilbert]

Sounds good to me, Trudeau has a message of hope instead of one of fear.

Justin Trudeau gets the job done with an upbeat, pro-teacher ad | Full Comment | National Post

Oh, boy, here we go again. Maybe he'll get the Nobel for providing lotsa wishful thi.... I mean hope, too.

Many conservatives seem to be of the opinion that teachers are failed professions who are taking a fall-back option.

The art of teaching requires good communication and critical thinking skills, both can easily be applied to politics.

Funny. I thought he gave up teaching, tried hacking it in Uni enough to get a higher education, gave up, and tried acting, gave up, and is trying politics now.