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Are you ? Poker , golf , tiddely winks , backgammon , bridge whist , melldamon any time . You are so smart so with the bigger wallet you have I will only give you 2 to 1 odds .




You might have a chance at tiddlywinks (that is how it is spelled BTW). As for the rest I've played chess for over 60 years and bridge for over 50. Right now I play computer games of varying difficulty. And I've got no idea what melldamon is.
 

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You might have a chance at tiddlywinks (that is how it is spelled BTW). As for the rest I've played chess for over 60 years and bridge for over 50. Right now I play computer games of varying difficulty. And I've got no idea what melldamon is.




Here is an article illustrating our dangerous future- if LIE-beral `values` are imposed on us. With some comments of my own in bracket):

Our free speech is already under attack.

BY CANDICE MALCOLM.
FIRST POSTED: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2017 03:53 PM EDT | UPDATED: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2017 04:30 PM EDT

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Freedom of speech is vital for a free society. The principle behind freedom of speech, however, isn’t simply the ability to scream and shout down opinions we don’t like.

The purpose of free expression is tied to our ability to debate and to engage in civil discourse with our fellow Canadians — including those with whom we disagree.

(The motivation behind the concept of free speech is that its supposed to allow the best and most logical ideas to be presented to a society that values logic and efficiency so the best social outcome will be available to the greatest majority. The LIE-beral version of free speech- which is NOT really free at all- is to allow ONLY LIE-beral versions of free speech to be presented- so the party can cling to power at any price! Its why LIE-berals will not define Islamophobia. Its why LIE-berals scream racist if you question their immigration policies. Its why they call you greedy or selfish if you question their mad deficits and debt. Its why they call you a fool if you ask sensible questions about why Cdn living standard is dropping! LIE-berals DO NOT WANT free debate of their failed policies! They want easy questions gently lobbed their way- that they can brush off with a few pious platitudes and sound bites that supply NO details!)

These discussions allow us to work through our differences and reach an understanding of where the other side is coming from.

At the end of the day, we may not agree on the issues, but we reach a consensus – where both sides have honest convictions and are sincerely working to make Canada a better place.

(Too bad the LIE-beral version of `consensus means giving them total control over all- with LIE-berals willing to throw us a small bone once in a while. LIE-berals are-in the words of Thomas Sowell- the `annointed` of the land- they see themselves as the `natural` leaders because they believe they are more kind and gentle than their opponents- NO MATTER the subject or the value of the counter argument- to dissent from LIE-beral orthodoxy is to become THE ENEMY! This is why many Cdns are fearfull of the LIE-beral stabd on M 103- the Islamophobia `motion` that they are trying to turn into law- apparently as a way to silence critics of ANY LIE-beral policy!)

The ability to voice concerns, to work through ideas, to critique one another and to find solutions together is what unites us as Canadians. Unity is our strength, and it’s the foundation of our free society. But our ability to discuss issues publicly is being undermined.

This week, we’ve seen examples of intolerance, bias and dishonesty working against Canadian unity.

When it comes to intolerance, look no further than the Liberal and NDP MPs who walked out of a meeting simply because the meeting’s chair, Rachael Harder, opposes abortion and backed a bill to impose stricter penalties for crimes committed against pregnant women.

(That the current crop of Conservative leaders would rather be caught cheating on their income tax than get into another party debate about abortion is not relevant to LIE-berals nor to their less cunning and less intelligent NDP cousins! LIE-berals have been harping about a Conservative “secret agenda” for several decades now with NONE of the agenda appearing!)

Intolerant NDP and Liberal MPs refused to be in the room with Harder simply because she holds a different view — a view shared by millions of Canadians of all political stripes.

They don’t want to talk about it, they just want to shut her out and take away her voice — and that of Lethbridge voters who elected Harder to represent them in Ottawa.

(Picking on a socially not too popular view- one that WAS NOT VOICED at the committee meeting- and which ALL Conservatives have been instructed NOT to discuss under any circumstances is a handy way for LIE-beral bigots to distract from their own antics over Islamophobia! Very few Cdns share the view of a few radical feminazis- that an abortion is no more serious than having a woman trim her toenails! We recognize that a potentially viable life is being ended.)

(Most Cdns DO accept that there ARE various circumstances when abortion is logical and even practical. Cdns accept that a female who has been sexually assaulted and becomes pregnant as a result should have the FULL cooperation of society in dealing as she feels necessary with the unwanted burden! Cdns also understand that a woman who learns that her fetus is damaged or deformed in some fashion should be able to end the pregnancy if she desires. Cdns also accept that accidents do happen and that some people are careless about birth control- and we generally accept that if you are too dumb to make birth control work then you ain’t likely to be a good parent either so abortion is a logical option!)

(What Cdns really object to is the idea that life is sacred- ONLY if a LIE-beral says it is! Does anybody recall the furor some years back in which a drug addled native women and full time hooker discovered she was pregnant with her8th- or was it her 10th child and debate broke out over how to deal with this mess. The woman was utterly unable to care for any of her kids- ever single one was born damaged due to her drug habit and every one suffered from fetal alcohol syndrome- NONE of them will ever grow to be fully functioning independent adults! ALL will require life long govt care!)

(There was debate and discussion in the western Cdn city where she sold herself for drugs as to whether or not she should be permitted to carry yet another fetus to full term? LIE-berals and feminazis defended the woman and her rights and life choices while other Cdns asked about OUR rights! As in- what right does SHE HAVE to force her messes on us? Do we not have ANY right to refuse these burdens? LIE-berals think such question are impertinent! Even worse- some female idiot law professor in B.C. called the pregnant drug addict “brave and a survivor”! LIE-berals have NOTHING to be proud of related to their policy on abortion! And it is sheer hypocrisy- typical of LIE-berals that they can sneer at an un-voiced Conservative opinion even as they ram their Islamophobia garbage- seen as bigoted and dangerous to national security- onto US!)

Sure, these leftist MPs were exercising their own freedoms, but this act of political theatre sets an example that you can silence and exclude those with different opinions.

(Which is exactly what the future Islamophobia LAW is apparently INTENDED to do!)

Childish MPs weren’t the only example of a refusal to engage honestly on issues of the day.

Earlier this week, I wrote a column critiquing a CBC article over its claim Sharia law is already in place here in Canada.

When CBC News shared their article on Twitter, they wrote “Sharia is already in Canada.”

My column — “Stop normalizing Sharia law in Canada” — refuted the idea “Sharia is already in Canada”, and encouraged freedom-loving Canadians to join forces with moderate Muslim activists in campaigning against Sharia creeping into our society.

(Actually I feel obligated to agree with CBC on this one- Sharia Law is certainly not present in public main stream Canada but it CERTAINLY IS active away from the public spotlight! News media have reported that the web sites of Muslim Madhrassas/ schools and Mosques are LOADED with writings the average Cdn would call radical- with NO moderate Muslim voices to be heard in such places! LIE-berals know this- and choose to ignore it.)

(Worse- LIE-berals insult anybody who seeks evidence of radical Muslim duplicity. And their Human Rights but too often Wrong Commission is setting up a Kangaroo Court to deal with some Mississauga guy who offered up a thousand dollars to anybody who could provide video of Muslims making hate speeches. So LIE-berals have ALREADY made it a criminal OFFENSE for Cdns to seek proof that radical Muslims are operating in Canada!)

(And what are we to make of our Ontari-owe premier Wynne-bag going to a Mosque in the aftermath of the shooting of 6 Muslims in Quebec- and of course- as a woman- she was expected to shut up and sit in the back with the other second rate citizens until the Male Imam chose to let her come forward among the men to speak! Its probably a good thing she is menopausal since if she was on her period she would be deemed UNCLEAN and not fit to appear among Muslim men! And why is Our idiot Boy the vaunted feminist SILENT on these routine actions that diminish Muslim women? Religious freedom is all very well- just so long as it does not detract from LIE-beral votes!)

(As for the media reports of radical webs sites- LIE-berlas seem to feel that can be ignored by reverse bigot LIE-berals as the web sites with offensive content are written in Arabic! But we KNOW that if white Cdns published allegedly racist material in German then LIE-berals would jump on it quick enough- its just LIE-beral hypocrisy as usual!)

Sharia is more than just a set of spiritual guidelines for Muslims. There is no separation of mosque and state in Islamic societies, and therefore, Sharia governs both private and public life.

But rather than having an honest discussion about Sharia and our secular Canadian society, rather than challenging my points and perhaps explaining how the two might be compatible, leftist critics simply attacked me and mischaracterized my argument.

(LIE-berals are CLEARLY uncomfortable discussing the reality of Sharia Law. It is an open secret among Muslims that just as long as Muslim women keep having 4-6 kids and Cdn women keep having 1.5 then Canada will soon become a Muslim nation by default! Once Muslims obtain enough votes their intention is to GUT about half our Cdn constitution and turn women into second rate citizens- in the name of Muslim rights and religion!)

They accused me of fear-mongering by saying Sharia is already in Canada — a claim made by the CBC, not me.

A Huffington Post article took my words out of context to promote the Trudeau government’s agenda and to demonize conservatives.

These tactics work to intimidate would-be critics and silence those with opposing views. They undermine the freedom of speech and civil discourse necessary in a healthy democracy.

(A confused and confusing argument with nobody on LIE-beral side being honestly called out for saying stupid and reverse racist thing suits LIE-berals just fine! If you grow angry they can then call you over emotional and irrational!)

If we cannot have an honest discussion about the realities of Sharia law, how can we safeguard our society against it?

When we allow freedom of speech to be curtailed for short-term partisan objectives, in the long run, other freedoms become collateral damage.

(Our idiot Boy has made it clear he sees NO reason to protect Canada from Muslims! He has made it clear that he thinks that people who have CHOSEN to come here are better Cdns than those who have merely been born here! Our idiot Boy is following in his fathers odious footsteps and taking action to destroy what Pierre Trudope called “Cdn Imperialism” The entire Trudope clan has an ODD and potentially POISONED understanding of imperialism- with Pierre telling Cdns that the war against Nazi Germany was “British Imperialism
 

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I guess the problem is that "Nazi" Trudeau is simply continuing the practices of the former Harper government, something you seem reluctant to admit. I wonder what that makes Harper and his friends? BTW you might want to look up "Nazi" before you incorrectly use the term.

So he was just following orders.
 

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So he was just following orders.


Yes- Our idiot Boy Justin is just following the orders of his Soviet style masters!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin is just as dedicated to the triumph of the Soviert way as his vile father!


In fact the ENTIRE TRUDOPE family are lovers of all things Soviet and dictatorial! Consider:


For those who don’t believe that the Trudeau`s-father and sons were and are raving socialist revolutionaries who want to destroy conventional `imperialist` Canada-I supply here a letter written by Sacha Trudeau-the brother of our prime minister that Boy with nice hair-for Brains.

Sacha wrote his `love letter to his old pal-the bloody handed communist Cuban leader Castro and it was printed (with serious intent and straight face yet!) by the Toronto (Red) Star newspaper. The Sacha letter was such a gag inducing/lose your lunch at the hypocrisy type document that the National Post picked it up and lampooned it with wonderful sarcasm!

I here present Sacha's love letter to hard line communist Castro as printed in the
National Post: 

The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 rid the world of a political system that slaughtered tens of millions in purges, and sentenced hundreds of millions more to economic slavery. Less consequentially, communism's demise also spared the world of arts and letters one of the most appalling literary tropes known to history: the mythic communist hagiography.

If you've ever traveled to a communist nation, or read its official histories, you will know they run something like this: Great Leader was born a poor villager in the country's heartland. At the age of four, he single-handedly killed a pack of wolves that threatened his town. At the age of eight, he invented a new kind of rifle. At the age of 12, he heroically denounced his own parents as counter revolutionaries. A prodigious autodidact, Great Leader became an expert in every subject -- agriculture, warfare, economics -- and tirelessly applied his intellect to advance the glorious revolution. And so on.

Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, this messianic propaganda style has survived in just two places -- North Korea and Cuba. Or so I thought, until I woke up on Sunday and spotted a museum-quality specimen devoted to Fidel Castro on the pages of the Toronto Star. Had I seen it in The Onion, I would have thought it a fine parody. But the persistently earnest author -- none other than Alexandre ("Sacha") Trudeau -- apparently meant every word.

The legacy of Castro is well-summarized in a recent report by Human Rights Watch: "Cuba remains a Latin American anomaly: an undemocratic government that represses nearly all forms of political dissent. President Fidel Castro, now in his 47th year in power ... continues to enforce political conformity using criminal prosecutions, long- and short-term detentions [and] mob harassment ... The end result is that Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law."

But those sticks-in-the-mud at Human Rights Watch apparently don't know the real Fidel. Writing on August 13, Castro's 80th birthday, Sacha lovingly described the kindly attentions Cuba's leader once lavished on his late brother Michel, whom the despot nicknamed "Micha-Miche." When Michael was eight years old, we learn, he complained to his mother that he had fewer friends than his brothers. Reports Sacha: "My mother told him that, unlike us, he had the greatest friend of all: He had Fidel."

Such soothing words. Would that we all had a communist tyrant to call our pal.

Sacha's article is full of this sort of maudlin recollection, so much so that one is reminded of the purple love letters Nikolai Bukharin wrote to Stalin from prison in the (vain) hope of winning his freedom. The main difference is that Sacha doesn't have the excuse of imprisonment. He wrote his ode to Cuba's prison-keeper from a nation whose people enjoy freedoms that Cubans can scarcely imagine.

Space forbids a full recitation of Sacha's jaw-droppers, but here are some highlights.

Cuba's Great Leader, we are told, "lives to learn and put his knowledge in the service of the revolution." He is "famous for not sleeping, instead spending the night studying and learning." "His intellect is one of the most broad and complete that can be found." Moreover, Fidel is "a great adventurer," "a great scientific mind," "the most curious man I have ever met," "an expert on genetics, on automobile combustion engines, on stock markets, on everything," not to mention the world's "most audacious and brilliant" leader.

Or, to put it more succinctly, "He is something of a superman" -- a description Sacha justifies with a comic-book propaganda story in which the fat dictator dives 20 metres down into the ocean (without scuba gear!) to collect sea urchins for the Trudeau family's delectation.

Only when we get to the 18th paragraph does Sacha interrupt his sensuous rhapsodies to admit that Cubans "do occasionally complain." But such complaints are akin to "an adolescent [who] might complain about a too strict and demanding father."

In other words, Fidel's single flaw is that he loves too much.

If this were all there were to Sacha's article, then it would merely constitute the unintentionally comic ramblings of a son who still believes the Cuban agitprop passed on to him from his departed daddy -- nonsense that even most Cubans stopped believing decades ago. But his Star essay went beyond that, into something much creepier.

I am thinking in particular of these two lines:

z "Fidel may seem an anachronism: a visionary statesman in a world where his kind have long since been replaced by mere managers, a 20th-century icon still present in the 21st century."

z "With the possible exception of Nelson Mandela, already well into retirement, Fidel is the last of the global patriarchs. Reason, revolution and virtue are becoming more and more distant and abstract concepts." (My emphasis in both cases.)

Since the 1980s, Latin America has undergone a stunning transformation. In the time of Pierre Elliott Trudeau, autocratic police states were the norm, democracy the exception. Now it is the opposite, and only Cuba and Venezuela stand as blots on an otherwise democratic landscape. It is one of the most inspiring political transformations of our time. Yet to Sacha, all of these freely elected leaders are "mere managers." For they lack the "machismo and vigour" that can only emanate from a "revolutionary" regime -- which is to say, a community tyranny.

Throughout the 20th century, there were many other ideologues who preferred "reason, revolution and virtue" to the boring give-and-take of democratic politics and due process. Their ranks included not only murdering despots such as Lenin, Mao and Castro himself, but also starry-eyed fellow travellers and apologists such as Sartre, Fanon and Trudeau pere. Thankfully, the failure of the Soviet experiment has driven both tribes into history's dustbin.

Sacha is a rare exception. Yet from the casual way he throws out his nauseating obsequies, he doesn't appear to understand just how historically discredited his message has become. He is more than naive -- he is ignorant.

The saddest part of it is that Sacha is not an insubstantial intellect: In recent years, he has become a respected journalist, civil libertarian and activist. But there are limits to what even an accomplished person may say and still be taken seriously. What Sacha has written here is so ludicrous that it puts into question everything he's said or will say. Now that he's written this glowing tribute to a dictator with blood on his hands, for instance, why should we believe his repeated claims that this or that Arab terrorism suspect is innocent? Why should we believe his reporting from Iraq, for that matter? If the romantic glory of "revolution" is all that matters in Sacha's political universe, surely jihadis are "supermen," too, no?

Sacha is still a young man -- perhaps young enough to rebound from this blunder if he's more careful with his words. But for that to happen, the naive affection for Fidel bequeathed to him by his father should become the love that dare not speak its name.

jkay@nationalpost.com

- Jonathan Kay is Managing Editor for Comment at the National Post.

SACHA TRUDEAU ON FIDEL CASTRO

'Fidel is the most curious man that I have ever met. He wants to know all there is to be known. He is famous for not sleeping, instead spending the night studying and learning.'

'His intellect is one of the most broad that can be found. He is an expert on genetics, on automobile combustion engines, on stock markets. On everything.'

'Combined with a Herculean physique and extraordinary courage, this monumental intellect makes Fidel the giant that he is.'

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH ON FIDEL CASTRO

'Cuba remains a Latin American anomaly: an undemocratic government that represses nearly all forms of political dissent.'

'President Fidel Castro, now in his 47th year in power ... continues to enforce political conformity using criminal prosecutions, detentions [and] mob harassment'

'Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law'
 

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Uh huh. Did you suggest that to the people calling Trump a nazi? Then piss off. I guess whenever the left uses it, it's always used correctly, huh? And uh, if you've been reading my posts about this, I already admitted that the program was started under Harper. But here's the thing. Harper hasn't been PM for 2.5 years. Now, Trudeau sure killed the law allowing the mandatory deportation of foreign-born terrorists almost immediately after taking Office. Yet two and a half years in, he's still locking up innocent kids in immigration detention.
So as the sitting PM, who owns the problem? Trudeau. Why is the problem persisting? Trudeau.

So, a love of terrorists and locking up innocent kids. Yep, sounds like a nazi to me.

Well said!
 

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Did anyone catch the interview with Hillary Clinton when running for President and she said the exact same thing that Trump is currently doing. She said that the government has no choice but to remove children from adults when they are in danger or if the parents are criminally charged with doing something illegal. She said that when Americans break the law, their kids don't go to prison with them and that's exactly what would happen under her administration. So it's completely hypocritical of democrats to berate Trump for doing exactly what a President Hillary Clinton said she would do.


As for Trudeau saying that Canada does things differently only goes to show he has no clue what his "administration" continues to do as well. But the issue is what happens to the kids when the adults do something illegal and/or cannot prove their relationship to the child(ren)? We do what most democratic institutions do - take care of the kids the best we can until it can be determined what happens to them. That (unlike Trudeau believes) is what we do here and what Trump is doing there.


JMHO

Did anyone catch the interview with Hillary Clinton when running for President and she said the exact same thing that Trump is currently doing. She said that the government has no choice but to remove children from adults when they are in danger or if the parents are criminally charged with doing something illegal. She said that when Americans break the law, their kids don't go to prison with them and that's exactly what would happen under her administration. So it's completely hypocritical of democrats to berate Trump for doing exactly what a President Hillary Clinton said she would do.


As for Trudeau saying that Canada does things differently only goes to show he has no clue what his "administration" continues to do as well. But the issue is what happens to the kids when the adults do something illegal and/or cannot prove their relationship to the child(ren)? We do what most democratic institutions do - take care of the kids the best we can until it can be determined what happens to them. That (unlike Trudeau believes) is what we do here and what Trump is doing there.


JMHO


The trafficking of children is an issue as well and we need to be sure that the kids coming across are with their legitimate families.
 

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The guy that arrainged for trudOWE to win the last election to prove for all time that ignorant Lefty's cannot be trusted to look out for the country and its taxpayers.




Here is an article illustrating how foolish and irresponsible some people can be about crossing a border! With some comments of my own in brackets):

U.S. customs reportedly took away a man's life savings of $58,000 — even though he was never charged with a crime 20/20
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U.S. Customs and Border Patrol seized a man's life savings at an airport in October.© Provided by Business Insider Inc.

Rustem Kazazi from Cleveland is suing US Customs and Border Protection after they reportedly took his life savings at the airport.

According to the lawsuit, the agents strip-searched him at the Cleveland airport in October and took more than $58,000 in cash from him without charging him with a crime.

(Oh but LIE-berals do not want to admit that carrying anything over ten thousand dollars in cash over a border IS A CRIME! Cops look at $58 grand as DIRTY MONEY! If it was CLEAN money you would put it in a bank account and keep it SAFE! Only criminals and money launderers carry that much cash- and even a lot of the people listed in the Paradise Papers appear to be laundering money in various ways- at the least they are shuffling cash out of Canada and into Carribean tax havens to hide it from Revenue Canada! So $58 grand in undeclared cash IS AN IMMEDIATE RED FLAG for cops!)

A month later, US customs sent a notice of seizure to Kazazi's house, explaining that they seized his money because of his alleged involvement in smuggling, drug trafficking, and money laundering.

Kazazi denies those allegations and claims that the agency is violating federal law by keeping his money without filing a formal complaint against him.

On Thursday, Albanian immigrant Rusten Kazazi filed a lawsuit against US Customs and Border Protection. In the lawsuit, the 64-year-old claims customs agents at the Cleveland airport seized his life savings in October 2017 without being charged of a crime.

(So the guy is a landed immigrant who owns a house in United States- and yet here he is showing up at Yankee border from Albania carrying his “life savings” with no real explanation of where he got the money, and he is wondering why people assume he is a mule carrying drug money for laundering?

US customs sent a letter to Kazasi two months later, explaining they had seized his money because of his alleged involvement in smuggling, drug trafficking, or money laundering. Kazazi, however, denies all of those allegations and demands that they return his money.

According to the lawsuit, Kazazi brought his life savings with him on a trip to Albania last fall.

(So the idiot likes to keep his money close to him at all times and is wandering across multiple borders with no apparent fear of being ROBBED? Why no fear of robbery or should we assume he travels with gangland protectors to ensure his safety? And shall we ask if he has any coherent explanation of where he got the money to buy the house and to travel back to Albania?)

Currently based in Cleveland, Ohio, Kazazi was born and raised in Albania, where he met his wife and started his family. In 2005, the family received visas through the State Department's lottery program and moved to Cleveland. Five years later, they became US citizens.

Last fall, Kazazi planned a six-month trip to Albania to visit relatives, repair his home, and look into buying a retirement home. In order to facilitate those transactions, Kazazi took out his family's life savings in cash.

(Oh that`s nice- SIX MONTHS of family visits and fun- and when does the guy ever work to earn such money? After all he has only been in United States since 2005! And shall we guess he has never heard how gangster Al Capone was taken down by income tax agents?)

Kazazi told the Washington Post that he took out the money in cash because of safety concerns. "The crime [in Albania] is much worse than it is here," he said. "Other people that have made large withdrawals [from Albanian banks] have had people intercept them and take their money. The exchange rates and fees are [also] excessive."

(So he IS SMUGGLING currency contrary to Albanian law! If the country is so horrible he does not wish to live there then why is he so willing to invest in such a den of thieves?)

According to the lawsuit, Kazazi is "temperamentally detail-oriented and careful with money," so he separated the cash into three stacks and labeled each stack with the amount it contained. He brought a total of $58,100, which he marked on the envelope. When Kazazi went through security at the Cleveland airport on October 24, customs agents took him aside and seized his money.

According to the lawsuit, TSA agents discovered the money in Kazazi's bag as he was going through security at the Cleveland airport. They alerted customs agents, who led Kazazi to a small private room in order to conduct a strip search. Kazazi told the Washington Post that they searched "different areas" of his body, and that he "felt [his] rights violated." However, the strip search did not yield anything.

The customs agents also asked him questions rapidly in English. Kazazi, who allegedly "still has difficulty with English," had trouble understanding what they were saying. According to the lawsuit, he was denied an interpreter and he was also not permitted to contact his family for help.

The customs agents then took the envelope containing his money and gave Kazazi a receipt for an unstated amount of US currency, according to Kazazi, who said he was alarmed that the receipt did not list the dollar value of his cash. "I began to worry that they were trying to steal the money for themselves," he said in his court declaration.

(OH that`s funny! The thief is worried about being robbed! And if life in Albania is as corrupt as he says then why in hell invest ANYTHING there? Unless of course you ARE laundering money as Border agents allege Kazazi is! His excuses for carrying the money are childlike and foolish!)

According to Kazazi's lawsuit, the agents "did not find any evidence of a crime" and they also "did not give Rustem any indication why they were seizing the money."

In December, Kazazi's family received a letter from US customs explaining that they seized the money because it was "involved in a smuggling/drug trafficking/money laundering operation."

According to the lawsuit, this was the first time that US customs provided an explanation for seizing Kazazi's money at the airport. In the Notice of Seizure sent on December 1, 2017, customs claimed that the money was taken from him because the currency was involved in smuggling, drug trafficking, or money laundering.

The Kazazis told the Washington Post that they were astounded by this allegation, especially since the strip search at the airport had yielded no proof. "This was the most offensive thing I've ever seen," Kazazi's son Erald said. "They provide no evidence. They list three different things without even saying which one it is."

In a statement provided to the Washington Post, US customs claimed that when TSA agents searched Kazazi and his bags, they discovered "artfully concealed US currency." Additionally, customs claimed that Kazazi "provided inconsistent statements regarding the currency, had no verifiable source of income, and possessed evidence of structuring activity."

(Ah- NO VERIFIABLE SOURCE OF INCOME! Yeah- I think we should ask how the guy pays for his house and international travel! And the guy HAS been taken down Al Capone style!)

Wesley Hottot, the Kazazi family's attorney, responded by saying that the inconsistent statements were actually a result of Kazazi's poor English language comprehension. Hottot also denied that Kazazi was trying to conceal the cash, as he had wrapped it in paper and labelled it clearly.

(The lawyer had a month in which to supply honest explanations for where the money came from and FAILED to do so!)

Additionally, the Notice of Seizure stated that the amount taken from Kazazi had been $57,330. However, Kazazi claims that this amount is incorrect, as the customs agents seized the entire envelope containing $58,100. The family told the Washington Post that the cash was all in $100 bills, making it impossible for it to add up to $57,330.

The Kazazis are pursuing a court case because customs still has not returned his money, even after seven months.

In the lawsuit, Kazazi claims it has been more than seven months since the customs agents seized his money. The deadline to seek forfeiture of the money expired on April 17.

Under federal forfeiture law, the government is required to initiate a forfeiture case within 90 days after the Kazazis responded to the seizure notice. If the government fails to do so within that window of time, they will be required to promptly return the money.

(Oh one does have to enjoy the SILLY LIE-beral style word games! Kazazi WAS TOLD within one month of the money seizure that it was being confiscated! And now his hypocrite lawyer is whining they did not institute a court case properly and must give the money back! How old are these whiny children anyway? And is lawyer Hottot being paid by the gang that supplied the $58 grand?)

Since that deadline passed over a month ago on April 17, and customs still has not filed a forfeiture complaint nor returned the money, the Kazazis decided to file a lawsuit instead.

(I get a BIG KICK out of listening to hypocrites nit pick through legal mine fields! If the guys English is that bad then how doe he know whether agents explained the matter to him properly? As for a call for an interpreter- that is the famous last excuse of thieves who have run out of other answers! I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THEY WAIL! Let me do it over with a new set of BETTER lies!)

"We wanted another party like the attorney's office to deal with this case," Erald told the Washington Post. Based on my father's experience it didn't seem like CBP really wanted to help us out."

The Kazazis are remaining optimistic.

(Uh huh- good luck with that! Laundering of drug money is not seen as a serious crime in Canada- so its another source of NAFTA friction between Cdn LIE-berals and Yankees- but Yankees are clearly much more serious about money laundering than Cdn LIE-berals! Cdn LIE-berals do not care that our housing costs are now being largely driven by laundered money from organized crime- with a very large percentage of the money coming from over seas- as CBC has been occasionally reporting on slow news days- for 40 years!)

Erald told the Washington Post that this has been a difficult situation for his family, and it has even affected his father's health. However, he said that his father's high opinion of the US has not wavered.

"He's not going to let the actions of some employees that made a mistake in their duties change his opinion of the country," Erald said.

In related crime news- Fernando Penedo- a Cdn - said hackers drained his bank account of nearly all his money on Tuesday, May 29.
Bank hack left Ont. man with $2.86

(Aint it grand how well LIE-berals guard our security? Oh sure- Penedo the Cdn will get all his money back eventually from a bank insurance fund but aint it grand knowing that our ridiculously HIGH bank fees are enuring that hackers have enough money to live on nicely?)

(Cdn LIE-beral security is now so incredibly lax that Nigerian letter scammers are flying to United States as wealthy tourists and then shuffling across the border into Canada as poverty stricken refugees! And Our idiot Boy cannot understand why Yankees view Canada as a security risk!!!!!!)
 

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Here is an article illustrating how foolish and irresponsible some people can be about crossing a border! With some comments of my own in brackets):

U.S. customs reportedly took away a man's life savings of $58,000 — even though he was never charged with a crime 20/20
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U.S. Customs and Border Patrol seized a man's life savings at an airport in October.© Provided by Business Insider Inc.

Rustem Kazazi from Cleveland is suing US Customs and Border Protection after they reportedly took his life savings at the airport.

According to the lawsuit, the agents strip-searched him at the Cleveland airport in October and took more than $58,000 in cash from him without charging him with a crime.

(Oh but LIE-berals do not want to admit that carrying anything over ten thousand dollars in cash over a border IS A CRIME! Cops look at $58 grand as DIRTY MONEY! If it was CLEAN money you would put it in a bank account and keep it SAFE! Only criminals and money launderers carry that much cash- and even a lot of the people listed in the Paradise Papers appear to be laundering money in various ways- at the least they are shuffling cash out of Canada and into Carribean tax havens to hide it from Revenue Canada! So $58 grand in undeclared cash IS AN IMMEDIATE RED FLAG for cops!)

A month later, US customs sent a notice of seizure to Kazazi's house, explaining that they seized his money because of his alleged involvement in smuggling, drug trafficking, and money laundering.

Kazazi denies those allegations and claims that the agency is violating federal law by keeping his money without filing a formal complaint against him.

On Thursday, Albanian immigrant Rusten Kazazi filed a lawsuit against US Customs and Border Protection. In the lawsuit, the 64-year-old claims customs agents at the Cleveland airport seized his life savings in October 2017 without being charged of a crime.

(So the guy is a landed immigrant who owns a house in United States- and yet here he is showing up at Yankee border from Albania carrying his “life savings” with no real explanation of where he got the money, and he is wondering why people assume he is a mule carrying drug money for laundering?

US customs sent a letter to Kazasi two months later, explaining they had seized his money because of his alleged involvement in smuggling, drug trafficking, or money laundering. Kazazi, however, denies all of those allegations and demands that they return his money.

According to the lawsuit, Kazazi brought his life savings with him on a trip to Albania last fall.

(So the idiot likes to keep his money close to him at all times and is wandering across multiple borders with no apparent fear of being ROBBED? Why no fear of robbery or should we assume he travels with gangland protectors to ensure his safety? And shall we ask if he has any coherent explanation of where he got the money to buy the house and to travel back to Albania?)

Currently based in Cleveland, Ohio, Kazazi was born and raised in Albania, where he met his wife and started his family. In 2005, the family received visas through the State Department's lottery program and moved to Cleveland. Five years later, they became US citizens.

Last fall, Kazazi planned a six-month trip to Albania to visit relatives, repair his home, and look into buying a retirement home. In order to facilitate those transactions, Kazazi took out his family's life savings in cash.

(Oh that`s nice- SIX MONTHS of family visits and fun- and when does the guy ever work to earn such money? After all he has only been in United States since 2005! And shall we guess he has never heard how gangster Al Capone was taken down by income tax agents?)

Kazazi told the Washington Post that he took out the money in cash because of safety concerns. "The crime [in Albania] is much worse than it is here," he said. "Other people that have made large withdrawals [from Albanian banks] have had people intercept them and take their money. The exchange rates and fees are [also] excessive."

(So he IS SMUGGLING currency contrary to Albanian law! If the country is so horrible he does not wish to live there then why is he so willing to invest in such a den of thieves?)

According to the lawsuit, Kazazi is "temperamentally detail-oriented and careful with money," so he separated the cash into three stacks and labeled each stack with the amount it contained. He brought a total of $58,100, which he marked on the envelope. When Kazazi went through security at the Cleveland airport on October 24, customs agents took him aside and seized his money.

According to the lawsuit, TSA agents discovered the money in Kazazi's bag as he was going through security at the Cleveland airport. They alerted customs agents, who led Kazazi to a small private room in order to conduct a strip search. Kazazi told the Washington Post that they searched "different areas" of his body, and that he "felt [his] rights violated." However, the strip search did not yield anything.

The customs agents also asked him questions rapidly in English. Kazazi, who allegedly "still has difficulty with English," had trouble understanding what they were saying. According to the lawsuit, he was denied an interpreter and he was also not permitted to contact his family for help.

The customs agents then took the envelope containing his money and gave Kazazi a receipt for an unstated amount of US currency, according to Kazazi, who said he was alarmed that the receipt did not list the dollar value of his cash. "I began to worry that they were trying to steal the money for themselves," he said in his court declaration.

(OH that`s funny! The thief is worried about being robbed! And if life in Albania is as corrupt as he says then why in hell invest ANYTHING there? Unless of course you ARE laundering money as Border agents allege Kazazi is! His excuses for carrying the money are childlike and foolish!)

According to Kazazi's lawsuit, the agents "did not find any evidence of a crime" and they also "did not give Rustem any indication why they were seizing the money."

In December, Kazazi's family received a letter from US customs explaining that they seized the money because it was "involved in a smuggling/drug trafficking/money laundering operation."

According to the lawsuit, this was the first time that US customs provided an explanation for seizing Kazazi's money at the airport. In the Notice of Seizure sent on December 1, 2017, customs claimed that the money was taken from him because the currency was involved in smuggling, drug trafficking, or money laundering.

The Kazazis told the Washington Post that they were astounded by this allegation, especially since the strip search at the airport had yielded no proof. "This was the most offensive thing I've ever seen," Kazazi's son Erald said. "They provide no evidence. They list three different things without even saying which one it is."

In a statement provided to the Washington Post, US customs claimed that when TSA agents searched Kazazi and his bags, they discovered "artfully concealed US currency." Additionally, customs claimed that Kazazi "provided inconsistent statements regarding the currency, had no verifiable source of income, and possessed evidence of structuring activity."

(Ah- NO VERIFIABLE SOURCE OF INCOME! Yeah- I think we should ask how the guy pays for his house and international travel! And the guy HAS been taken down Al Capone style!)

Wesley Hottot, the Kazazi family's attorney, responded by saying that the inconsistent statements were actually a result of Kazazi's poor English language comprehension. Hottot also denied that Kazazi was trying to conceal the cash, as he had wrapped it in paper and labelled it clearly.

(The lawyer had a month in which to supply honest explanations for where the money came from and FAILED to do so!)

Additionally, the Notice of Seizure stated that the amount taken from Kazazi had been $57,330. However, Kazazi claims that this amount is incorrect, as the customs agents seized the entire envelope containing $58,100. The family told the Washington Post that the cash was all in $100 bills, making it impossible for it to add up to $57,330.

The Kazazis are pursuing a court case because customs still has not returned his money, even after seven months.

In the lawsuit, Kazazi claims it has been more than seven months since the customs agents seized his money. The deadline to seek forfeiture of the money expired on April 17.

Under federal forfeiture law, the government is required to initiate a forfeiture case within 90 days after the Kazazis responded to the seizure notice. If the government fails to do so within that window of time, they will be required to promptly return the money.

(Oh one does have to enjoy the SILLY LIE-beral style word games! Kazazi WAS TOLD within one month of the money seizure that it was being confiscated! And now his hypocrite lawyer is whining they did not institute a court case properly and must give the money back! How old are these whiny children anyway? And is lawyer Hottot being paid by the gang that supplied the $58 grand?)

Since that deadline passed over a month ago on April 17, and customs still has not filed a forfeiture complaint nor returned the money, the Kazazis decided to file a lawsuit instead.

(I get a BIG KICK out of listening to hypocrites nit pick through legal mine fields! If the guys English is that bad then how doe he know whether agents explained the matter to him properly? As for a call for an interpreter- that is the famous last excuse of thieves who have run out of other answers! I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THEY WAIL! Let me do it over with a new set of BETTER lies!)

"We wanted another party like the attorney's office to deal with this case," Erald told the Washington Post. Based on my father's experience it didn't seem like CBP really wanted to help us out."

The Kazazis are remaining optimistic.

(Uh huh- good luck with that! Laundering of drug money is not seen as a serious crime in Canada- so its another source of NAFTA friction between Cdn LIE-berals and Yankees- but Yankees are clearly much more serious about money laundering than Cdn LIE-berals! Cdn LIE-berals do not care that our housing costs are now being largely driven by laundered money from organized crime- with a very large percentage of the money coming from over seas- as CBC has been occasionally reporting on slow news days- for 40 years!)

Erald told the Washington Post that this has been a difficult situation for his family, and it has even affected his father's health. However, he said that his father's high opinion of the US has not wavered.

"He's not going to let the actions of some employees that made a mistake in their duties change his opinion of the country," Erald said.

In related crime news- Fernando Penedo- a Cdn - said hackers drained his bank account of nearly all his money on Tuesday, May 29.
Bank hack left Ont. man with $2.86

(Aint it grand how well LIE-berals guard our security? Oh sure- Penedo the Cdn will get all his money back eventually from a bank insurance fund but aint it grand knowing that our ridiculously HIGH bank fees are enuring that hackers have enough money to live on nicely?)

(Cdn LIE-beral security is now so incredibly lax that Nigerian letter scammers are flying to United States as wealthy tourists and then shuffling across the border into Canada as poverty stricken refugees! And Our idiot Boy cannot understand why Yankees view Canada as a security risk!!!!!!)




 

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Poor stupid LIE-berals- they do not understand the consequences of ignoring crime- especially organized crime!!!


Even worse for LIE-berals is that ordinary Cdns DO UNDERSTAND the cost and consequences of crime and thus all LIE-beral policy is collapsing in disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Here is an article illustrating how foolish and irresponsible some people can be about crossing a border! With some comments of my own in brackets):

U.S. customs reportedly took away a man's life savings of $58,000 — even though he was never charged with a crime 20/20
INSIDER June 2/2018

give feedback at thisisinsider.com (Nian Hu)

U.S. Customs and Border Patrol seized a man's life savings at an airport in October.© Provided by Business Insider Inc.

Rustem Kazazi from Cleveland is suing US Customs and Border Protection after they reportedly took his life savings at the airport.

According to the lawsuit, the agents strip-searched him at the Cleveland airport in October and took more than $58,000 in cash from him without charging him with a crime.

(Oh but LIE-berals do not want to admit that carrying anything over ten thousand dollars in cash over a border IS A CRIME!
Bullshit, it's not illegal. You can cross the border with $3 million in cash if you want as long as A) It's legally gotten gains and B) You DECLARE the money. Any goods or cash that is NOT declared can be relieved of your possession without compensation. However, if Mr. Kazazi can prove in the meantime that the money is legally his, he can still get a significant portion of it back.
You see, as someone who travels outside of the country, it is YOUR responsibility to declare anything you bring back in with you, period.
 

spilledthebeer

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Bullshit, it's not illegal. You can cross the border with $3 million in cash if you want as long as A) It's legally gotten gains and B) You DECLARE the money. Any goods or cash that is NOT declared can be relieved of your possession without compensation. However, if Mr. Kazazi can prove in the meantime that the money is legally his, he can still get a significant portion of it back.
You see, as someone who travels outside of the country, it is YOUR responsibility to declare anything you bring back in with you, period.


Thank you Jininotex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU aid me in making my point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Albanian goof who lost that $58 grand HAS NO VISIBLE MEANS OF SUPPORT- as my post pointed out!!!!!!!!!!!!


He was travelling with a huge pile of cash and COMING FROM APLACE HE KNOWS WELL_ HAVING BEEN BORN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And WHY is he carrying that cash?


AS he says himself the Albanian crime problem is WAY WORSE than other countries and "the banks are not to be trusted"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The clown offers up excuses that would have a 9 year old kid howling with laughter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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after 100s of thousands of words, it is a great thing when your post finally points something out,eh? Too bad, most of us have stopped reading your posts
 

spilledthebeer

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It didn't point anything out. He's making assumptions.




OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! People have stopped reading my posts you say? And my posts are based on reports coming from main stream Cdn media...........



Then WHY are LIE-beral polling numbers DROPPING?????????????


Could it be that I AM RIGHT and that ALL LIE-BERAL POLICY is in utter disgrace just as I have said?



Poor LIE-berals- better not go out without wearing a hard hat since YOUR SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!




Here is a nice article illustrating the hypocrisy of Toronto politicians-and it also does a nice job of illustrating why there will be NO aid coming to Toronto from Ottawa to help deal with all those illegals that even Jackass John the Sorry Tory is now whining about! LIE-berals now have their every wish- a whole pile of illegals to tend to in Sanctuary City Toronto! The local poverty pimps now have decades of work tending to the teeming swarms of illegals who will not be able to survive here without MAJOR govt aid for years to come! Too bad NONE of our municipal Commissars have any clue how to pay for their policies!!!!!

The article contains some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto pays more than its ‘fair share’. By Jerry Agar, Toronto Sun

First posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 05:15 PM EST | Updated: Monday, February 13, 2017 05:26 PM EST
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In fact, Toronto is contributing more tax money than it takes back in services, so it is either uninformed or greedy to suggest Torontonians should pay even more. (TORONTO SUN/FILES)

A popular argument across Ontario is that residents of Toronto don’t pay their fair share of taxes, based on the fact the city has a lower property tax rate than surrounding communities.

Some people outside Toronto have contacted me to say if Toronto residents paid more in property tax, the city would not need so much money from the province, which would be better for everyone.

Indeed, there are many people who love to insist that “other” people do not pay their “fair share”.

It is always these “other” people they believe need to pay more.

In the real world, few of us ever say: “You know, upon review, I am just not being taxed enough.”

If someone does ever say that to you, ask them if they have taken advantage of the opportunity afforded to them to send extra money to the treasury of one or more of the three levels of government — municipal, provincial and federal — to which we all pay taxes.

In fact few people volunteer to pay more.

Toronto itself, for example, offers taxpayers this opportunity and the Toronto Sun reported that in 2013, “218 voluntary donations added up to $19,951”.

But what we can say about Toronto taxpayers is that they pay more in provincial and federal taxes than they get back in provincial and federal services.

(This is utter NONSENSE! This is like the guy who steals your car giving you cab fare to get home! Toronto collects TEN DOLLARS per citizen for every ONE dollar given to other Ontari-owe municipalities in provincial transfer payments. Toronto home owners are the greedy pigs that motivated govt to force MPAC-the municipal property assessment rip off on us-with Toronto IGNORING ORDERS to bring its property tax rates into line with other Ontari-owe municipalities! Scarborough has TWICE the number of hospital beds per population that Durham Region does.)

(Toronto happily pays its cops more than other municipalities-with the same deal for fire firefighters and all other Toronto civil servants. Toronto happily gives out a nice array of costly grants to the "arts community" and to assorted loonie un-civil rights groups such as Black Lives Matter. If Toronto needs money so badly then maybe they ought to cut back on funding for idiot artists and lunatic lobby groups! And what about Gay Pride-nobody is throwing this man a party simply because I prefer playing with vaginas!)

(Toronto claims the Pride Parade and Carribanna bring in more money than they cost-but this looks a lot like the same sort of accounting that permitted LIE-berals to hand out HUGE bonuses for Pan Am Games because the Game facilities were completed on time and on budget-and of course they were NOT!)

(City of Hamilton is discretely launching a lawsuit against construction companies and Ontari-owe LIE-beral govt because of the number of short cuts and shoddy work that were done at the new Hamilton arena to get it ROUGHLY completed on time. With other municipalities in southern Ontari-owe lining up to discreetly claim for their own Pan Am troubles-the Games have left a trail of shoddy work and sports facility deficiencies that govt does not want to talk about!)

Studies on this issue are not regularly done, so the numbers I have are not up to date.

But I am told by a reliable source at City Hall that the situation has not changed significantly since the study I quote from below was done.

It was by University of Calgary economics professor Ronald Kneebone, in a paper published by the C.D. Howe Institute, reported in 2007 by the Globe and Mail.

People seem to have forgotten it.

It said that, “based on averages between 1986 and 2002, Torontonians each paid $1,717 more in taxes every year than they received back in provincial and federal programs and services.”

That means Toronto residents are already paying more than their “fair share.”

(NO-this is NOT what it means! Toronto taxes must be properly defined! Toronto pays LOWER PROPERTY TAXES than other municipalities. They pay HIGHER INCOME TAXES because there are so many excellent civil service jobs in Toronto thanks very much- in part- to the presencve of Queens Park in Toronto-complete with a horde of highly paid hacks, flacks and flunkies-there is also the matter of the big banks all having headquarters in Toronto and those people are laos nicely paid thanks to relentless fee gouging! There is also the ten to one funding model set up by LIE-berals which allows for higher pay of all connected to govt! One way for over governed Toronto to save would be cutting the number of numbskull city councillors in half-and cutting he number of hacks and flacks by two thirds!)

(Bring Toronto civil service Hog pay back to levels paid in surrounding municipalities and watch the rate of tax paid by Toronto denizens drop and watch Toronto tax rates plummet! Cops, parks employees and bus drivers all do the same job across southern Ontari-owe- with NO reason for Toronto workers to be paid as if they had won a municipal lottery!)

In fact, Toronto is contributing more tax money than it takes back in services, so it is either uninformed or greedy to suggest Torontonians should pay even more.

(What a fine LIE-beral JOKE! LIE-berals INSIST that those who have more money should pay more tax-and then have a melt down when that philosophy is applied to THEM!)

The second widely held belief is if property taxes were raised in Toronto it would mean the province would have more money.

(ANOTHER LIE-beral joke-tax Toronto more and civil service Hogs will go on strike more often and black mail LIE-berals into giving MORE raises in pay! Govt DRIVES inflation!)

But that money would not go to the province, since property tax stays in the city.

(Toronto grandly hands out all manner of grants and gifts and vote buying treats-if they want the reward then they should be using THEIR own money and not money thrown to them by the LIE-beral provincial govt in a gross vote buying scheme! And that`s why we are talking about this now! LIE-berals and Toronto Hogs are terrified they have pushed us too far and that LIE-berals are about to be bombed out of office in the next election-with catastrophic results for Toronto finances as the new govt balances it books by giving Toronto a FAIR DEAL for a change! LIE-berals made this mess and now they are afraid they will drown in it!)

Whether Toronto should charge property taxpayers a higher tax rate for city services is a fair topic for discussion.

But even if it did, it would not benefit Oshawa or North Bay. It would just mean people in Toronto would pay more in property taxes.

(And higher Toronto property taxes would mean MORE money to fix roads and bridges in the city-it might even mean that Toronto Housing Authority SLUMS might get some fixing up?)

The only way the rest of the province would benefit would be if property taxes were raised in Toronto and the province simultaneously reduced its contributions to the city by the same amount.

(Yeah! And that is called FAIRNESS! AND ITS COMING to a dead broke city near you!)

But how would that be “fair” since Torontonians already pay more in provincial taxes than they get back in provincial services?

(OH dear-|LIE-beral policy just backfired on itself! LIE-berals insist that those with the most money should pay a FAIR- read LARGER SHARE than poor people-and its doubly fair when the "rich" are getting a larger share of govt transfer money than others!

The fact is that provincial services in the rest of the province are funded in part by the massive amount of money flowing to Queen’s Park from Toronto.

(IN case you have not noticed-Ontari-owe is stony broke LIE-berals and their Toronto municipal friends are merely re-arranging the deck chairs on their fiscal ship Titanic.)

Instead of pointing the bony finger of blame at someone else, we should all cooperate in demanding politicians stop misspending so much of the huge amounts of money all of us already give them.

(OH there is a JOKE! LIE-berals have repeatedly won elections based entirely on turning one group against another! Its why Toronto so loyally votes LIE-beral so often! Its Toronto Hogs against the rest of the province-with that nice Toronto deal maybe coming to an ugly end if McWynnnty cannot smooth the troubled political waters and remedy her current place as most unpopular premier in Cdn history!)