Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

[gore0bsessed]

As I have pointed out numerous times before, Israel works very hard, with excellent success at avoiding civilian casualties. There are civilian casualties, of course, but not nearly as many as one would expect when they have to attack an enemy hiding among the population in one of the most crowded places on earth.

Oh, I know, you would rather the damn Joos just take it, and line up peacefully for the gas chambers.

But Never again means exactly that.

That"s blatantly false, I'm laughing hard right now and so is anyone else who reads and knows even a little of the situation.. To think Israel goes out of their way to avoid civilian casualties is hilariously disingenuous or more so, a blatant lie. It's simply not true, it doesn't happen. Israel has a terrible record of killing innocent civilians, including women and children. These aren't things made up , you really trying to argue against factual information. :lol:

You can't even read your Huff Post propganda properly. The article says 2 people were injured, one of them critically and if you do further research you'll find that the student died of his injuries.
BBC News - Israeli boy Daniel Viflic dies after rocket hits bus
Ya big dope.

I know what it said, and I can decipher from what was written and the image presented that if it was a school bus full of children there would be a lot more casualties than a 50 year old man and another citizen unfortunate to be in the vicinity of the bus. Critical thinking , do you possess it?

 

[earth_as_one]

Deliberately attacking a bus would be a war crime. Firing rockets and mortars in the general direction of civilians are war crimes. I don't defend war crimes or war criminals. But I do support people knowing everything that happened that week, rather than just what the BBC reported which was incomplete and manipulative:

18 April 2011
Israeli boy Daniel Viflic dies after rocket hits bus
An Israeli teenager wounded when a Palestinian rocket hit a bus has died of his injuries.
Daniel Viflic, 16, was on a school bus in southern Israel on 7 April when it was hit by an anti-tank missile fired from the Gaza Strip.The driver was slightly hurt in the attack, which happened just after the other children had been dropped off. Nineteen Palestinians died in the ensuing wave of Israeli air strikes and Palestinian counter-attacks.
BBC News - Israeli boy Daniel Viflic dies after rocket hits bus

Sure sounds like the bad Palestinians got what they deserved. But what the BBC left out is significant. Here's a Palestinian version of events for the same week:

At least 18 Palestinians killed and 70 were wounded in Israeli attacks in the Gaza Strip and Israeli military renew raids against Awarta village in the West Bank, the details and more with IMEMC's David Steele.

On Saturday morning the army killed one fighter and seriously wounded another in a renewed wave of air strikes targeting northern Gaza. The slain fighter was identified as Ahmad al-Zeitouna. Also on Saturday, the army bombarded an area west of Jaballiya, in the northern part of the Gaza Strip; two residents were wounded, one seriously.

The Israeli Air Force bombarded on Saturday evening the al-Zeitoun neighborhood, south of Gaza City, killing one member of the Salah Ed Deen Brigades. Eighteen Palestinians were killed and nearly 70 were injured by Israeli fire and shells between Thursday 7th and Saturday 9th April.

Medical sources reported on Saturday evening that Raed Zuheir al-Bir, 30 years old, of the Salah Ed Deen Brigades of the Popular Resistance Committees, died of wounds sustained after the army bombarded an area in al-Zeitoun neighborhood; several residents were injured.

Three residents were wounded when the army fired at least one missile at an area near the car market in al-Zeitoun. One of the wounded residents died later on, medical sources reported.

Israeli military forces demolished a water well designed to collect rain water and an agricultural structure in al-Khader village southwest of Bethlehem on Monday.

On Monday, the Israeli Navy opened fired on Sunday evening at Palestinian fishing boats near the Khan Younis port, in the southern part of the Gaza Strip; damage was reported, but no injuries. Local sources reported that the fishing boats came under Israeli navy fire while still in the area allocated for fishing before chasing them to the shore.

The Israeli military abducted, on Tuesday morning, seven citizens from the West Bank city of Hebron. Furthermore, Israeli troops abducted on Tuesday at dawn three residents from Awarta village, near the northern West Bank city of Nablus, after surrounding and breaking into their rented apartment in Betunia, west of the central West Bank city of Ramallah

Also on Tuesday, a group of extremist Israeli settlers uprooted and destroyed more than 45 olive trees that belong to the residents of Beit Ummar village, near the southern West Bank city of Hebron.

Palestinian sources in Silwan, in occupied East Jerusalem, reported on Wednesday morning that several residents were injured, one seriously, while one resident was taken to an unknown location by Israeli soldiers and policemen following clashes that took place in the town.

In addition, Israeli soldiers abducted 14 Palestinians, including children, on Wednesday at dawn in several West Bank areas.

On Thursday, the Jerusalem Legal Aid and Human Rights Center reported that Israeli soldiers violated a ruling issued by the Israeli High Court, and demolished six tin-houses and barns that belong to Bedouin residents living in Al Nwei’ma area, near the Jericho City.

The Center sent an urgent letter to the Israeli Prosecution, the Legal Councilor and the High Court demanding them to stop the violation.

The Center added that the Israeli army recently demolished several tin-houses and barns in the same area, also in direct violation to a ruling issued by the High Court earlier this year.

The Court ordered a delay of the demolishing of the structures but the army demolished barns and tin-houses anyway, without even obtaining the approval of the so-called Civil Administration Office. Even with Civil Administration approval, such demolitions are illegal under international law. They are expressly prohibited by article 53 of the 4th Geneva convention except in cases of absolute military necessity.
This Week in Palestine week 15 2011 - International Middle East Media Center

How about the week before that?

Hundreds abducted in the West Bank and 10 killed in the Gaza Strip due to Israeli military raids, the details and more with IMEMC Circarre Parrhesia

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) reported, this week, that demolition of Palestinian homes and other buildings by Israel reached record highs in March.

According to UNRWA, 76 buildings were demolished in March, resulting in the displacement of 158 people, including 64 children. This brings the total number of displaced persons in 2011 to 333, including 175 children. UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness claimed that this was “discrimination against one ethnic group”.

The village of Awarta, near Nablus in the north of the West Bank, has undergone three separate attacks this week by Israeli military forces, including closures of all access points to the village, the imposition of curfew upon the village and the detention of hundreds of residents of the village, including elderly women, who have been forced to submit DNA samples.

The attacks are a continuation of the collective punishment upon the village following the murders of five members of a family in the nearby settlement of Itamar over one month ago, despite the State of Israel providing no concrete evidence for the murderer, or murders, coming from Awarta.

The Israeli military abducted, on Wednesday morning, three Palestinians from the town of Hebron. The sources stated that the Israeli Military searched houses of Palestinian residents and handed them orders to appear at the nearest police station for questioning.

Israeli soldiers invaded on Thursday morning al-Aqaba village, east of the central West Bank city of Tubas, declared it a closed military zone, and proceeded to demolish two homes and bulldoze roads.

Sami Sadeq, head of al-Aqaba village council, stated that several roads close to the entrance of the village, and in its center, were bulldozed before the army demolished the two homes.

The Gaza Strip has seen a further escalation in hostilities this week, culminating in the death of 10 Palestinians and the injury of dozens more in the last 30 hours alone.

On Tuesday, a Palestinian man was killed in the buffer zone of the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military claimed that they shot the man as he was armed and approaching the border, but Palestinian medical sources stated that no weapon was found at the scene.

Air raids were reported both Tuesday and Wednesday night in several areas, resulting in injuries to five civilians. Two were children, and two were women, one of whom is pregnant. Furthermore damage was reported to property including a plastics factory.

Following rocket fire from Gaza on Thursday, one of which struck an Israeli school bus in Beer Sheva injuring two, the Israeli military launched an assault upon Gaza using shelling from tanks, and aerial fire from a combination of F-16 fighter jets, Apache helicopters and unmanned drones.

Attacks were reported throughout the Gaza Strip and have, thus far, resulted in the deaths of ten Palestinians, eight of whom were civilians, and the injury of over 40 residents. Both the numbers killed and injured included children.

The two deceased who were not civilians belonged to the al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of the Hamas movement, who claimed responsibility for the rocket fire from Gaza, along with the National Resistance Brigades, of the DFLP.
UK Indymedia - This Week in Palestine week 14 2011

How about the week before that?

Israeli attacks targeting Palestinian communities left 3 dead and more than 100 arrested this week, IMEMC’s Circarre Parrhesia has the details:

Israeli attacks claimed the lives of three residents of the Gaza Sttrip, this week. All three individuals were members of the al-Quds Brigades, the armed wing of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

Furthermore, a number of civilians were injured during attacks and damage was reported to the Ship Building in the northern Gaza Strip, 2 schools and 30 homes.

In the West Bank hundreds were detained this week, and several injured in attacks by both the Israeli military and settlers.

On Monday, seven adults and seven children were detained during pre-dawn raids in the town of Beit Ommar, southern West Bank. The military claims that they were cinducting searches for a group that threw stones at settlers last week.

The Israeli military invaded the village of Oriyya, northern West Bank, also Monday, and detained dozens of residents. The event follows the murders of 5 members of a family in the nearby settlement of Itamar.

On Tuesday, 60 residents of the village of Awarta, also northern West Bank, were detained, and forced to give DNA samples to the Israeli military, also in conjunction with the murders in Itamar.

Awarta has been placed under several curfews since the murders, and over 100 people have been detained, despite any evidence given by the Civil Administration of Palestinian involvement.

The Israeli military demolished twelve tents, also Tuesday, belonging to Bedouin families in the South Hebron Hills region of the West Bank. During the attack, seven persons were beaten. The tents housed the twelve families that live in Khirbet Um Neir, a small community of Bedouin farmers, and their livestock.

Finally, on Tuesday, three families from the Jordan Valley have been served eviction notices by the Israeli military. The families live in the Wadi Samra area, and have been informed that if they do not leave the land within three days, the military will demolish their tents and any structures.

A Palestinian woman was attacked on Wednesday at night by a group of Israeli settlers while she was driving her car on the Bir Zeit Road, near Jalazoun refugee camp, in the central West Bank district of Ramallah.

The injured woman was evacuated to the Red Crescent hospital in Ramallah to receive medical treatment after being assaulted by settlers who hurled stones at her and attacked her with batons.

On Thursday, the Israeli military abducted 6 civilians, including two legislators from the Hamas movement. The detentions occurred in the West Bank cities of Hebron and Ramallah.

Near the northern West Bank city of Jenin, also Thursday, settlers threw stones at a number of Palestinian cars. Several residents were injured during the attacks, and damage was to vehicles was reported.
This Week in Palestine week 13 2011 - International Middle East Media Center

Regarding the events which preceded the Israel independence. Israeli historians combing through Israeli government archives discovered a long time ago that many commonly held perceptions about Israel's founding are also incomplete, inaccurate and often based on deliberate misinformation and complete fabrications

Benny Morris (Hebrew: בני מוריס‎‎; born 8 December 1948 ) is professor of History in the Middle East Studies department of Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in the city of Be'er Sheva, Israel. He is a key member of the group of Israeli historians known as the "New Historians". Morris's work on the Arab-Israeli conflict and especially the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has won praise and criticism from both sides of the political divide. He is accused by some academics in Israel of only using Israeli and never Arab sources, creating an "unbalanced picture". Regarding himself as a Zionist, he writes, "I embarked upon the research not out of ideological commitment or political interest. I simply wanted to know what happened."

Q & A With Benny Morris:

Ari Shavit: In the month ahead, the new version of your book on the birth of the Palestinian refugee problem is due to be published. Who will be less pleased with the book -- the Israelis or the Palestinians?

Benny Morris: The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces [IDF] archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-State defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.

At the same time, it turns out that there was a series of orders issued by the Arab Higher Committee and by the Palestinian intermediate levels to remove children, women and the elderly from the villages. So that on the one hand, the book reinforces the accusation against the Zionist side, but on the other hand it also proves that many of those who left the villages did so with the encouragement of the Palestinian leadership itself.

AS: According to your new findings, how many cases of Israeli rape were there in 1948?

BM: About a dozen. In Acre, four soldiers raped a girl and murdered her and her father. In Jaffa, soldiers of the Kiryati Brigade raped one girl and tried to rape several more. At Hunin, which is in the Galilee, two girls were raped and then murdered. There were one or two cases of rape at Tantura, south of Haifa. There was one case of rape at Qula, in the center of the country. At the village of Abu Shusha, near Kibbutz Gezer [in the Ramle area] there were four female prisoners, one of whom was raped a number of times. And there were other cases. Usually more than one soldier was involved. Usually there were one or two Palestinian girls. In a large proportion of the cases the event ended with murder. Because neither the victims nor the rapists liked to report these events, we have to assume that the dozen cases of rape that were reported, which I found, are not the whole story. They are just the tip of the iceberg.

AS: According to your findings, how many acts of Israeli massacre were perpetrated in 1948?

BM: Twenty-four. In some cases four or five people were executed, in others the numbers were 70, 80, 100. There was also a great deal of arbitrary killing. Two old men are spotted walking in a field -- they are shot. A woman is found in an abandoned village -- she is shot. There are cases such as the village of Dawayima [in the Hebron region], in which a column entered the village with all guns blazing and killed anything that moved.

The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and, perhaps, Abu Shusha (70). There is no unequivocal proof of a large-scale massacre at Tantura, but war crimes were perpetrated there. At Jaffa there was a massacre about which nothing had been known until now. The same at Arab al Muwassi, in the north. About half of the acts of massacre were part of Operation Hiram [in the north, in October 1948]: at Safsaf, Saliha, Jish, Eilaboun, Arab al Muwasi, Deir al Asad, Majdal Krum, Sasa. In Operation Hiram there was a unusually high concentration of executions of people against a wall or next to a well in an orderly fashion.

That can't be chance. It's a pattern. Apparently, various officers who took part in the operation understood that the expulsion order they received permitted them to do these deeds in order to encourage the population to take to the roads. The fact is that no one was punished for these acts of murder. [David] Ben-Gurion silenced the matter. He covered up for the officers who did the massacres.

AS: Are you saying that Ben-Gurion was personally responsible for a deliberate and systematic policy of mass expulsion?

BM: From April 1948, Ben-Gurion is projecting a message of transfer. There is no explicit order of his in writing, there is no orderly comprehensive policy, but there is an atmosphere of [population] transfer. The transfer idea is in the air. The entire leadership understands that this is the idea. The officer corps understands what is required of them. Under Ben-Gurion, a consensus of transfer is created.

AS: Ben-Gurion was a "transferist?"

BM: Of course. Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood that there could be no Jewish State with a large and hostile Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It would not be able to exist.

AS: I don't hear you condemning him.

BM: Ben-Gurion was right. If he had not done what he did, a state would not have come into being. That has to be clear. It is impossible to evade it. Without the uprooting of the Palestinians, a Jewish State would not have arisen here.

AS: For decades you have been researching the dark side of Zionism. You are an expert on the atrocities of 1948. In the end, do you in effect justify all this? Are you an advocate of the transfer of 1948?

BM: There is no justification for acts of rape. There is no justification for acts of massacre. Those are war crimes. But in certain conditions, expulsion is not a war crime. I don't think that the expulsions of 1948 were war crimes. You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. You have to dirty your hands.

AS: We are talking about the killing of thousands of people, the destruction of an entire society.

BM: A society that aims to kill you forces you to destroy it. When the choice is between destroying or being destroyed, it's better to destroy.

AS: So when the commanders of Operation Dani are standing there and observing the long and terrible column of the 50,000 people expelled from Lod walking eastward, you stand there with them? You justify them?

BM: I definitely understand them. I understand their motives. I don't think they felt any pangs of conscience, and in their place I wouldn't have felt pangs of conscience. Without that act, they would not have won the war and the state would not have come into being.

AS: They perpetrated ethnic cleansing.

BM: There are circumstances in history that justify ethnic cleansing. I know that this term is completely negative in the discourse of the 21st century, but when the choice is between ethnic cleansing and genocide -- the annihilation of your people -- I prefer ethnic cleansing.

AS: And that was the situation in 1948?

BM: That was the situation. That is what Zionism faced. A Jewish State would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads. It was necessary to cleanse the villages from which our convoys and our settlements were fired on.

AS: What you are saying is hard to listen to and hard to digest. You sound hardhearted.

BM: I feel sympathy for the Palestinian people, which truly underwent a hard tragedy. I feel sympathy for the refugees themselves. But if the desire to establish a Jewish State here is legitimate, there was no other choice. It was impossible to leave a large fifth column in the country. From the moment the Yishuv [pre-1948 Jewish community in Palestine] was attacked by the Palestinians and afterward by the Arab states, there was no choice but to expel the Palestinian population. To uproot it in the course of war.

Remember another thing: the Arab people gained a large slice of the planet. Not thanks to its skills or its great virtues, but because it conquered and murdered and forced those it conquered to convert during many generations. But in the end the Arabs have 22 states. The Jewish people did not have even one state. There was no reason in the world why it should not have one state. Therefore, from my point of view, the need to establish this state in this place overcame the injustice that was done to the Palestinians by uprooting them.

AS: And morally speaking, you have no problem with that deed?

BM: That is correct. Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians. There are cases in which the overall, final good justifies harsh and cruel acts that are committed in the course of history.

AS: And you take that in stride? War crimes? Massacres? The burning fields and the devastated villages of the Nakba?

BM: You have to put things in proportion. These are small war crimes. All told, if we take all the massacres and all the executions of 1948, we come to about 800 who were killed. In comparison to the massacres that were perpetrated in Bosnia, that's peanuts. In comparison to the massacres the Russians perpetrated against the Germans at Stalingrad, that's chicken feed. When you take into account that there was a bloody civil war here and that we lost an entire 1 percent of the population, you find that we behaved very well.

AS: Besides being tough, you are also very gloomy. You weren't always like that, were you?

BM: "My turning point began after 2000. I wasn't a great optimist even before that.... When the Palestinians rejected the proposal of [Prime Minister Ehud] Barak in July 2000 and the Clinton proposal in December 2000, I understood that they are unwilling to accept the two-state solution. They want it all. Lod and Acre and Jaffa.

AS: If that's so, then the whole Oslo process was mistaken and there is a basic flaw in the entire worldview of the Israeli peace movement.

BM: Oslo had to be tried. But today it has to be clear that from the Palestinian point of view, Oslo was a deception. [Palestinian leader Yasser] Arafat did not change for the worse, Arafat simply defrauded us. He was never sincere in his readiness for compromise and conciliation.

AS: Do you really believe Arafat wants to throw us into the sea?

BM: He wants to send us back to Europe, to the sea we came from. He truly sees us as a Crusader state and he thinks about the Crusader precedent and wishes us a Crusader end. I'm certain that Israeli intelligence has unequivocal information proving that in internal conversations Arafat talks seriously about the phased plan [which would eliminate Israel in stages]. But the problem is not just Arafat. The entire Palestinian national elite is prone to see us as Crusaders and is driven by the phased plan. That's why the Palestinians are not honestly ready to forego the right of return. They are preserving it as an instrument with which they will destroy the Jewish State when the time comes. They can't tolerate the existence of a Jewish State -- not in 80 percent of the country and not in 30 percent. From their point of view, the Palestinian state must cover the whole Land of Israel.

AS: If so, the two-state solution is not viable; even if a peace treaty is signed, it will soon collapse.

BM: Ideologically, I support the two-state solution. It's the only alternative to the expulsion of the Jews or the expulsion of the Palestinians or total destruction. But in practice, in this generation, a settlement of that kind will not hold water. At least 30 percent to 40 percent of the Palestinian public and at least 30 percent to 40 percent of the heart of every Palestinian will not accept it. After a short break, terrorism will erupt again and the war will resume.

AS: Your prognosis doesn't leave much room for hope, does it?

BM: It's hard for me, too. There is not going to be peace in the present generation. There will not be a solution. We are doomed to live by the sword. I'm already fairly old, but for my children that is especially bleak. I don't know if they will want to go on living in a place where there is no hope. Even if Israel is not destroyed, we won't see a good, normal life here in the decades ahead.
Q & A With Benny Morris | World | Jewish Journal

 

[CDNBear]

That"s blatantly false, I'm laughing hard right now and so is anyone else who reads and knows even a little of the situation.

Of course you're laughing hard right now.

Ignorance appears to be bliss.

To think Israel goes out of their way to avoid civilian casualties is hilariously disingenuous or more so, a blatant lie. It's simply not true, it doesn't happen. Israel has a terrible record of killing innocent civilians, including women and children.

The numbers don't lie.

I know what it said, and I can decipher from what was written and the image presented that if it was a school bus full of children there would be a lot more casualties than a 50 year old man and another citizen unfortunate to be in the vicinity of the bus. Critical thinking , do you possess it?

Another excellent example of moral relativism, and thus, moral bankruptcy.

Deliberately attacking a bus would be a war crime. Firing rockets and mortars in the general direction of civilians are war crimes. I don't defend war crimes or war criminals. But I do support people knowing everything that happened that week, rather than just what the BBC reported which was incomplete and manipulative:

You haven't told me when you're leaving.

The anti white, anti immigrant First Nations people want to know.

You wouldn't want to add proof of your blatant hypocrisy to your list of failings would you?

 

[gore0bsessed]

Of course you're laughing hard right now.

Ignorance appears to be bliss.

The numbers don't lie.

Another excellent example of moral relativism, and thus, moral bankruptcy.

This is a guy who denies how lopsided the civilian casualties are on the Palestinian side vs the Israelis, regardless of how clear the facts.

 

[CDNBear]

This is a guy who denies how lopsided the civilian casualties are on the Palestinian side vs the Israelis, regardless of how clear the facts.

No I do not.

I'm just not morally bankrupt, nor do I prescribe to moral relativism.

Given the confusion and idiocy contained in your posts. I'm not surprised you failed to grasp the truth of the matter.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Nice sentence structure. You absolute. Moron.

 

[CDNBear]

Nice sentence structure.

Thank you. Since it is quite proper.

You absolute. Moron.

Why would you insult me after acknowledging my proper sentence structure?

 

[SLM]

Why would you insult me after acknowledging my proper sentence structure?

More to the point, why would he insult you for improper sentence structure by using improper sentence structure?

 

[CDNBear]

More to the point, why would he insult you for improper sentence structure by using improper sentence structure?

Good point. All things considered, it's not surprising.

His posts don't come off very bright.

 

[SLM]

Good point.

You know me, I love my irony.

 

[earth_as_one]

Nice sentence structure. You absolute. Moron.

I disagree with name calling and other rude behvior. The rules exist for a reason.

 

[Goober]

I disagree with name calling and other rude behvior. The rules exist for a reason.

And making false allegations falls under....................what.

 

[CDNBear]

The rules exist for a reason.

For you to break them when it suits you?

Anyways...

You missed post #303.

I can fully understand why you would want to ignore it though.

You don't like facing facts.

 

[earth_as_one]

Of course you're laughing hard right now.

Ignorance appears to be bliss.

The numbers don't lie.

Another excellent example of moral relativism, and thus, moral bankruptcy.



You haven't told me when you're leaving.

The anti white, anti immigrant First Nations people want to know.

You wouldn't want to add proof of your blatant hypocrisy to your list of failings would you?

Since I was born here, I am not an immigrant. The same would hold true for anyone born in Israel. But people who were born elsewhere, should not have more rights than the people born in Palestine... yet they do, because Israel is a religious state which discriminates on the basis of religion. Even Iran (another religious state which discriminates on the basis of religion) doesn't treat their religious minorities as poorly as Israel does.

 

[gore0bsessed]

More to the point, why would he insult you for improper sentence structure by using improper sentence structure?

Apparently you forgot there is an edit button, where he can fix the issue and pretend it never happened.

 

[Goober]

Since I was born here, I am not an immigrant. The same would hold true for anyone born in Israel. But people who were born elsewhere, should not have more rights than the people born in Palestine... yet they do, because Israel is a religious state. Even Iran doesn't treat their religious minorities as poorly as Israel does.

So people not born in Canada- Having attained citizenship would not be afforded the same rights as a Canadian born on Canadian soil. Care to expand on that?

 

[CDNBear]

Since I was born here, I am not an immigrant.

Irrelevant. Many First Nations see that as a continuance of the primary wrong. Especially since you are squatting on someone else's land.

I can understand why you would want to use moral relativism to justify why it's OK for you, but not for Israelis.

But people who were born elsewhere, should not have more rights than the people born in Palestine... yet they do, because Israel is a religious state.

Not true at all. Which has been proven time and time again.

Even Iran doesn't treat their religious minorities as poorly as Israel does.

LOL.

Apparently you forgot there is an edit button, where he can fix the issue and pretend it never happened.

I never edited my post, lol.

Nice try though.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Even Iran doesn't treat their religious minorities as poorly as Israel does.

LOL.

It's fact. Do you know anything about Iran outside of what CNN & FOX news tells you? Or more appropriately anything outside of western media? ? ?

I never edited my post, lol.

Nice try though.

You're exposed.

 

[CDNBear]

It's fact.

No it's not.

Do you know anything about Iran outside of what CNN & FOX news tells you?

Or more appropriately anything outside of western media? ? ?

Apparently more than you, lol.

You're exposed.

LOL. If you say so.

So what did was it I supposedly edited? (I predict there will be no reasonable answer)

 

[gore0bsessed]

No it's not.

Apparently more than you, lol.

Hmm I have to ponder over this exciting new evidence presented , this is a strong rebuttal I'm not prepared to reply to at the moment.

Given the confusion and idiocy contained in your posts. I'm not surprised you failed to grasp the truth of the matter.

ahaha