Jesus seems to hate some things. Do you? Is hate good?

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All y'all Canadians gotta understand. I adore Timmies. Truly I do. When I'm in Canada I eat two meals a day there, every day. When I'm travelling in the few parts of the U.S. that have Timmies, I'll route my trip to take me by them and stop in.

HOWEVER, and no offense meant, Timmies has not (yet) achieved the tower of porknificence that is the Hardee's Monster Biscuit!
 

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My favourite pork dish is cottage roll. And it's pronounced cah-TAGE. You gotta have a little fat to have any flavour. I also like like Oktoberfest Sausage. As my father in law used to say, "It's the finest combination of pork lips and snouts that a man could ask for!" Sadly, Schneiders, the originator of the Oktoberfest sausage, was bought out by Maple Leaf. You can already taste the difference in the Schneider's Red Hot Hot Dogs.




 

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All y'all Canadians gotta understand. I adore Timmies. Truly I do. When I'm in Canada I eat two meals a day there, every day. When I'm travelling in the few parts of the U.S. that have Timmies, I'll route my trip to take me by them and stop in.

HOWEVER, and no offense meant, Timmies has not (yet) achieved the tower of porknificence that is the Hardee's Monster Biscuit!

so, we Canadian has learned that Skippy peanut butter will no longer be sold in Canada and we've been warned that the Skippy's in the states is different. IT has more sugar.

This had me wondering just how much more sugar american food has then Canadian. Anyone?
 

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so, we Canadian has learned that Skippy peanut butter will no longer be sold in Canada and we've been warned that the Skippy's in the states is different. IT has more sugar.

This had me wondering just how much more sugar american food has then Canadian. Anyone?
Lots. Heaps. Gobs.

These are all highly technical terms, you understand.
 

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The sane human being should like and dislike or else he is apathetic insane being.
If one likes the cleanliness, he should dislike the dirtiness; if he likes the light, he dislikes the darkness; likes the safety, dislikes the hurt; likes the happiness, dislikes the misery; likes the justice, dislikes the wrong-doing; likes God, dislikes Satan; likes God's commandments and dislikes the disobedience of God's revelations.

For this reason, God commanded us in the Quran to quit ourselves from the beliefs and conduct of the idolaters, taking Prophet Abraham and the believers with him as a model and example:

Quran 60: 4-5, which mean:
4. You have a good example [to follow] in Abraham [: the devoted friend of God] and those [believers] with him a, when they said to their people [the disbelievers]: "We are clear of you b and of the [idols] which you worship, apart from God.

We reject you
c, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever, unless you believe in God alone [and then the enmity will turn into friendship.]

But [follow not] the saying of Abraham to his father d: "Certainly I shall ask forgiveness for you, but I have no power to do anything for you against God e."

[Abraham went on saying:] "Our Lord, on You we rely [in our emigration to the Land of Canaan: Jordan], to You we turn obedient
and to You is the final resort [after our death.]"

[Then God – be glorified – said, completing that which Abraham said:]

5. "Our Lord, let us not be persecuted by the disbelievers f, and forgive us [our sins.]

Surely, You are the All-Mighty [in Your kingdom], the All-Wise [in Your creation.]"

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4 a i.e. those who believed and followed him.
4 b And we do not befriend with you.
4 c And do not take you into consideration.
4 d For Abraham did not ask forgiveness to his father, but only after a promise which he promised him with.
4 e If He wants to punish you, and I cannot avert the chastisement form you.
5 f i.e. do not set them on us, and so they will persecute us.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/60.htm#a60_4
quran-ayat.com/pret/60.htm#a60_4


Therefore, it is not allowed that man may ask forgiveness to his parents if they are idolaters associating others with God, but he can ask forgiveness for the 'exclusively devoted to God alone without associate'.
The sane among us know there is a difference between dislike and hatred. The rest are just doomed by their little minds to their hells
 
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I think (although it is not up to me) that your punishment from God may be imminent at any time; only He gives respite (may be till your day of death appointment.)
 

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And I think that someone is going to drop bombs on you. Bombs that will wash away your wickedness.

Do you ever visit al Jinah?
 
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And the god of the Quran is the same fictional character, the book contains many gleeful descriptions of the torments that await unbelievers in the next life. That's where selfsame/eanassir is coming from, and he's having trouble containing his excited anticipation. Can just hardly stand waiting to see us all destroyed by his malevolent imaginary friend.
 
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In all fairness to Jesus, he did say to spread his gospel through love, not war and hate. However, if he was the prophet they say he was, he should have foreseen that many of his followers would attempt to spread his message through war and hate. That often this was the only way they succeed in having their churches grow overseas and that their religions would be perpetuated in that way as well.
 

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Jesus is a product of man's imagination. He is a direct reflection of man's hyprocracy, arrogance and insecurities.


Among other things, yes.


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DL

Jesus Christ = riCh Jest us
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You must have read up on indulgences.


No argument against religions being their just for our cash.


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DL

Jesus did exist his story was more of a political history I call him the worlds first
Che Gavera. Mans hypocrisy came later when the leaders of the faith stole the
message from the Coptic Christians and constituted the right win agenda
Jesus had no intention of instituting a religion called Christianity. He wanted to
reform the Jewish faith to reintroduce their inner spirituality He was speaking of
a spiritual war not a military one


This is mostly correct and what you are describing is the Jesus archetype that Gnostic Christianity has embraced instead of the Roman ass kisser that Rome invented for Christianity.


The problem is that in that day, politics and religion were so tight that to separate them becomes difficult. Even more impossible once Constantine bought the church and set it's doctrine.


These, to me, confirm your view.

John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.


Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


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DL

Jesus doesn't hat the starving children of the earth.......



Strange then that he allows so many to die of preventable diseases and starvation.


Given his imagined power, would you sit back as he does and just allow it?


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DL

As I mentioned several times previously, he defined that sword as the "holy spirit which is the word of God" in Ephesians 6:17. By now if you troubled yourself to read it whenever I've mentioned this you would know he did not mean to suggest that war is a good thing.



Yet he will war against souls and if your scripture is correct, sends most of us to hell.


Seems to me that a loving God would cure instead of kill those he sends to hell.


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DL

Those who possess the Holy Spirit will understand. Those who don't have it cannot. This is part of the plan to separate the wheat from the chaff.



Jesus said that any true believer who had the Holy Spook, could do all he did and more.


It seems that all Christians who say they believe are chaff.


That would include you if you do not do as Jesus said you could.


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No I don't, and no it's not, I think it's always a mistake. Takes a lot of energy to maintain hatred, and it means whatever the object of your hatred is, it's inside your head manipulating your behaviour and it'll usually lead you into making bad decisions about how to deal with it. There are certainly people and things I dislike in varying degrees, but I find mockery or indifference are usually better responses. Even if the object is someone or something truly despicable and/or dangerous, hatred is the wrong response, it clouds the judgment and isn't worth the effort. All it'll achieve is poisoning yourself.



All that you see as negative I see as a positive to move people against evil.


If your wife or child were raped, would you still say that hatred against them and their actions are still the wrong response?


Can you hate the rape while loving the rapist? If so, how do you justify not hating both?


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DL

The sane human being should like and dislike or else he is apathetic insane being.
If one likes the cleanliness, he should dislike the dirtiness; if he likes the light, he dislikes the darkness; likes the safety, dislikes the hurt; likes the happiness, dislikes the misery; likes the justice, dislikes the wrong-doing; likes God, dislikes Satan; likes God's commandments and dislikes the disobedience of God's revelations.

For this reason, God commanded us in the Quran to quit ourselves from the beliefs and conduct of the idolaters, taking Prophet Abraham and the believers with him as a model and example:
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I agree with your conclusion but not how you got there with your belief in your fantasy God.


If Islam disliked slavery, they would not use it against their women.


Strange how you can maintains an immoral double standard of morality in your religion.


You are fully against fornicators but plan be be quite the fornicator in your imaginary heaven.


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DL

Does Jeebus hate stupid threads?



As much as Christianity and Islam.


Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds.


Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I.


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DL


Is hate good. another intelligent question from DL.



Yes, and intelligent people can answer that simple question.


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Hate is an emotion that, if controlled, is very useful.

With the proper guidance, hate is a method whereby people can be focused and become more efficient. Goals can be achieved. This usually happens in times of war, but there are other, less devastating applications.

Lawyers use hate to mold the minds of jurors and even judges.
Police can use it to bring out the truth in people brought in for questioning.

There are more examples.

The trick is knowing how to manipulate the emotion so that people do not get carried away (like a lynch mob). Mold and refine it to achieve the desired effect. Some will say that disliking something is a mild or low level version of hate. For example, we dislike paying taxes or having Muslims around. That dislike can be raised to full blown hate, if needed. WRT religion, we see this every day. The ME has always been an area where religious people take dislike and change it into hate.

The trouble with hate is that it takes a high level of skill to control and use it properly. Left to fester, it can bite you on the bum.
 

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Hate is an emotion that, if controlled, is very useful.

With the proper guidance, hate is a method whereby people can be focused and become more efficient. Goals can be achieved. This usually happens in times of war, but there are other, less devastating applications.

Lawyers use hate to mold the minds of jurors and even judges.
Police can use it to bring out the truth in people brought in for questioning.

There are more examples.

The trick is knowing how to manipulate the emotion so that people do not get carried away (like a lynch mob). Mold and refine it to achieve the desired effect. Some will say that disliking something is a mild or low level version of hate. For example, we dislike paying taxes or having Muslims around. That dislike can be raised to full blown hate, if needed. WRT religion, we see this every day. The ME has always been an area where religious people take dislike and change it into hate.

The trouble with hate is that it takes a high level of skill to control and use it properly. Left to fester, it can bite you on the bum.
Murph you've used that venemous hate on poor ole Selfsap for a long time now. How bout try a little lowve for once. Put a little louve in yer hart. Come on now people now just put a little louve in yer hart.
 

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Yes, because Nassir is a liar. He says one thing, but thinks another. I have been successful on many occasions on drawing him out and exposing his duplicity using hate. I use it as a tool to dig out the truth.

Love will not work with people like him. He has been taught his entire life that anyone who is not a Muslim is inferior. There is a German term, untermensch, which means someone that is less than or inferior to the common man. The only hope is that we can gradually let small groups of Muslims into the modern world and let them become acclimatized.

Even that is fraught with danger. We need only look at the honour killings that happen when daughters (primarily) reject Muslim teachings and go out to the mall or gather with infidels. Some girls even date infidels. The parents kill them. It is exceeding rare to read about a Christian, Buddhist or Sikh family doing the same thing to their daughters.

Nassir is a religious zealot. Zealots can be dangerous.

Edited to add: On the other thread, Nassir is quoting the Quran again. He rambles, and no one bothers to read his posts, as Twila has said, but he continues to post. He's just a gnat on the bedpost. A crazy relious type in Damascus. But there are millions of other "crazy religious types" in that region. Programed by their religious leaders and ready to do what is necessary to serve Mo.
 

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Hate is an emotion that, if controlled, is very useful.

With the proper guidance, hate is a method whereby people can be focused and become more efficient. Goals can be achieved. This usually happens in times of war, but there are other, less devastating applications.

Lawyers use hate to mold the minds of jurors and even judges.
Police can use it to bring out the truth in people brought in for questioning.

There are more examples.

The trick is knowing how to manipulate the emotion so that people do not get carried away (like a lynch mob). Mold and refine it to achieve the desired effect. Some will say that disliking something is a mild or low level version of hate. For example, we dislike paying taxes or having Muslims around. That dislike can be raised to full blown hate, if needed. WRT religion, we see this every day. The ME has always been an area where religious people take dislike and change it into hate.

The trouble with hate is that it takes a high level of skill to control and use it properly. Left to fester, it can bite you on the bum.



Well put, --- and indeed to your last.


That is why I let my hate go where it will.


If I did not know how to hate well, I would likely not know how to love well.


The positives signals that cause us to love someone, automatically creates a negative bias when the positive love signals are not returned by those who exhibit hate against us. Muslims do not have love signals for all those not of their ilk.


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DL

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Yep for things like pedophilia and at times for things like cruelty, fraud, dishonesty, theft, murder, mayhem, skulduggery etc. Not to mention politicians and Bible thumpers!





Not a bad list at all.:)


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DL