Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

Reverend Blair

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RE: Jesus Christ healed w

Just to get back someplace closer to on topic...

Wouldn't it make sense that a healer would use a drug known to be used by healers throughout recorded history, tibear?

Your asinine remark about Jesus owning slaves has little historical base. Slave owners were rich and politically well-connected, usually to the Romans, in Jesus' time. There is no biblical reference to Jesus being rich and since they strung him up as a political prisoner it is doubtful that he was politically connected.

There are references to Jesus healing people though. Some of those people seem to have been suffering from maladies like epilepsy (possession), which was commonly treated with marijuana in ancient times.

Various forms of opium were also commonly used, both in refined and unrefined forms. If Jesus was indeed a healer, he almost certainly would have used them.

Here's something else though. Your fear of marijuana as a drug is completely unfounded. It was used right up until the early 20th century in many over the counter products. So were opiates. I'll bet your great-grandmother took laudenaum. That's basically heroin and marijuana suspended in alcohol. I'll even go way out on a limb and guess that your great-grandmother wasn't a dope fiend.
 

Reverend Blair

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Apr 3, 2004
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RE: Jesus Christ healed w

Just to get back someplace closer to on topic...

Wouldn't it make sense that a healer would use a drug known to be used by healers throughout recorded history, tibear?

Your asinine remark about Jesus owning slaves has little historical base. Slave owners were rich and politically well-connected, usually to the Romans, in Jesus' time. There is no biblical reference to Jesus being rich and since they strung him up as a political prisoner it is doubtful that he was politically connected.

There are references to Jesus healing people though. Some of those people seem to have been suffering from maladies like epilepsy (possession), which was commonly treated with marijuana in ancient times.

Various forms of opium were also commonly used, both in refined and unrefined forms. If Jesus was indeed a healer, he almost certainly would have used them.

Here's something else though. Your fear of marijuana as a drug is completely unfounded. It was used right up until the early 20th century in many over the counter products. So were opiates. I'll bet your great-grandmother took laudenaum. That's basically heroin and marijuana suspended in alcohol. I'll even go way out on a limb and guess that your great-grandmother wasn't a dope fiend.
 

Reverend Blair

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Apr 3, 2004
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Winnipeg
RE: Jesus Christ healed w

Just to get back someplace closer to on topic...

Wouldn't it make sense that a healer would use a drug known to be used by healers throughout recorded history, tibear?

Your asinine remark about Jesus owning slaves has little historical base. Slave owners were rich and politically well-connected, usually to the Romans, in Jesus' time. There is no biblical reference to Jesus being rich and since they strung him up as a political prisoner it is doubtful that he was politically connected.

There are references to Jesus healing people though. Some of those people seem to have been suffering from maladies like epilepsy (possession), which was commonly treated with marijuana in ancient times.

Various forms of opium were also commonly used, both in refined and unrefined forms. If Jesus was indeed a healer, he almost certainly would have used them.

Here's something else though. Your fear of marijuana as a drug is completely unfounded. It was used right up until the early 20th century in many over the counter products. So were opiates. I'll bet your great-grandmother took laudenaum. That's basically heroin and marijuana suspended in alcohol. I'll even go way out on a limb and guess that your great-grandmother wasn't a dope fiend.
 

tibear

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Peapod,

More pro-abortion falicies. As stated on the abortion thread, more woman die now from abortions than died when abortion was illegal.

Of course, I don't support anyone who kills doctors and blowup medical clinics. These are mentally unstable people that need help.

Having said that, I wonder about a person who believes that the unborn are human and doesn't have any remorse regarding their killing.

Twila,

As I stated in my post, equality in this case is consistency with regards to the Charter.

RB,

Yes, marijuna was used extensively but so was arsenic as was bloodletting. Should we also continue to use these??

As for your references to Jesus, if you read the bible, very few of the "miracles" attributed to him involve him applying something to someone and I can't think of one he gave to ingest. One I can think of is the healing of the blind man with a salve that it said, "Jesus spit in the dirt and put it on the man's eyes". Most of the miracles involved either Christ talking to or touching the person involved.

I don't think you want to have a bible discussion on this forum so lets leave Christ out of it. Christians only roll their eyes are non-believers ignorance of the bible and non-believers couldn't care less what Christians believe.
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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Peapod,

More pro-abortion falicies. As stated on the abortion thread, more woman die now from abortions than died when abortion was illegal.

Of course, I don't support anyone who kills doctors and blowup medical clinics. These are mentally unstable people that need help.

Having said that, I wonder about a person who believes that the unborn are human and doesn't have any remorse regarding their killing.

Twila,

As I stated in my post, equality in this case is consistency with regards to the Charter.

RB,

Yes, marijuna was used extensively but so was arsenic as was bloodletting. Should we also continue to use these??

As for your references to Jesus, if you read the bible, very few of the "miracles" attributed to him involve him applying something to someone and I can't think of one he gave to ingest. One I can think of is the healing of the blind man with a salve that it said, "Jesus spit in the dirt and put it on the man's eyes". Most of the miracles involved either Christ talking to or touching the person involved.

I don't think you want to have a bible discussion on this forum so lets leave Christ out of it. Christians only roll their eyes are non-believers ignorance of the bible and non-believers couldn't care less what Christians believe.
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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Peapod,

More pro-abortion falicies. As stated on the abortion thread, more woman die now from abortions than died when abortion was illegal.

Of course, I don't support anyone who kills doctors and blowup medical clinics. These are mentally unstable people that need help.

Having said that, I wonder about a person who believes that the unborn are human and doesn't have any remorse regarding their killing.

Twila,

As I stated in my post, equality in this case is consistency with regards to the Charter.

RB,

Yes, marijuna was used extensively but so was arsenic as was bloodletting. Should we also continue to use these??

As for your references to Jesus, if you read the bible, very few of the "miracles" attributed to him involve him applying something to someone and I can't think of one he gave to ingest. One I can think of is the healing of the blind man with a salve that it said, "Jesus spit in the dirt and put it on the man's eyes". Most of the miracles involved either Christ talking to or touching the person involved.

I don't think you want to have a bible discussion on this forum so lets leave Christ out of it. Christians only roll their eyes are non-believers ignorance of the bible and non-believers couldn't care less what Christians believe.
 

peapod

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, I wonder about a person who believes that the unborn are human and doesn't have any remorse regarding their killing.

Tibear I have fished all my life...I know what bait is I explained myself to you. You are a dying race. Your solutions have always been part of the problem. Abortion will never stop, even if the taliban comes in power :wink:
 

peapod

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, I wonder about a person who believes that the unborn are human and doesn't have any remorse regarding their killing.

Tibear I have fished all my life...I know what bait is I explained myself to you. You are a dying race. Your solutions have always been part of the problem. Abortion will never stop, even if the taliban comes in power :wink:
 

peapod

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, I wonder about a person who believes that the unborn are human and doesn't have any remorse regarding their killing.

Tibear I have fished all my life...I know what bait is I explained myself to you. You are a dying race. Your solutions have always been part of the problem. Abortion will never stop, even if the taliban comes in power :wink:
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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Peapod,

Just calling 'em as I see 'em.

For a person who reportingly cares so much for her fellow human being. And then openly said that she believes that life begins at conception and yet has no problem with the killing of these children. It is unbelievable for you to sit there and talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.

I have to question either you believe as to when life begins or your compassion towards fellow humans. Those two personal beliefs don't very well.

Abortion will never stop, even if the taliban comes in power

The same for child prostitution, again should we simply stick our heads in the sand and "let people live"??? :D :D :D
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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Peapod,

Just calling 'em as I see 'em.

For a person who reportingly cares so much for her fellow human being. And then openly said that she believes that life begins at conception and yet has no problem with the killing of these children. It is unbelievable for you to sit there and talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.

I have to question either you believe as to when life begins or your compassion towards fellow humans. Those two personal beliefs don't very well.

Abortion will never stop, even if the taliban comes in power

The same for child prostitution, again should we simply stick our heads in the sand and "let people live"??? :D :D :D
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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Peapod,

Just calling 'em as I see 'em.

For a person who reportingly cares so much for her fellow human being. And then openly said that she believes that life begins at conception and yet has no problem with the killing of these children. It is unbelievable for you to sit there and talk out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.

I have to question either you believe as to when life begins or your compassion towards fellow humans. Those two personal beliefs don't very well.

Abortion will never stop, even if the taliban comes in power

The same for child prostitution, again should we simply stick our heads in the sand and "let people live"??? :D :D :D
 

merryclaire

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Twila, i really liked your quotes from malcolm X & B. Berenson.

Tibear, some of your points have logic & a ring of truth to them, but too often you come across as trying to ram your opinions down others throats instead of just saying what you think. if that's what you think, fine. but i think you try to change others opinions and you come off sounding very rigid and...what's that word, i'm looking for? kind of puritan-like.
there are always two sides to every story.
no, we should not allow abortion just because abortion always was around. and i don't think a single person actually said that was the reason for legalizing it. you confuse the main issues, probably on purpose.

and i didn't read the first page of this thread, but if or if not Jesus actually smoked marijuana, and truthfully i find it extremely doubtful, just because of the locale (i don't think marijauna was even used then and there - opiates, yes) and his economic status (poor carpenters, didn't exactly have a big stash lying around for friday nites), in fact the more i think on it, the more ridiculous that whole idea is, but none the less, who the hell cares????

the man was about peace and love and fellowship.
go Jesus!!!!!!
 

merryclaire

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Feb 1, 2005
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Twila, i really liked your quotes from malcolm X & B. Berenson.

Tibear, some of your points have logic & a ring of truth to them, but too often you come across as trying to ram your opinions down others throats instead of just saying what you think. if that's what you think, fine. but i think you try to change others opinions and you come off sounding very rigid and...what's that word, i'm looking for? kind of puritan-like.
there are always two sides to every story.
no, we should not allow abortion just because abortion always was around. and i don't think a single person actually said that was the reason for legalizing it. you confuse the main issues, probably on purpose.

and i didn't read the first page of this thread, but if or if not Jesus actually smoked marijuana, and truthfully i find it extremely doubtful, just because of the locale (i don't think marijauna was even used then and there - opiates, yes) and his economic status (poor carpenters, didn't exactly have a big stash lying around for friday nites), in fact the more i think on it, the more ridiculous that whole idea is, but none the less, who the hell cares????

the man was about peace and love and fellowship.
go Jesus!!!!!!
 

merryclaire

Electoral Member
Feb 1, 2005
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Twila, i really liked your quotes from malcolm X & B. Berenson.

Tibear, some of your points have logic & a ring of truth to them, but too often you come across as trying to ram your opinions down others throats instead of just saying what you think. if that's what you think, fine. but i think you try to change others opinions and you come off sounding very rigid and...what's that word, i'm looking for? kind of puritan-like.
there are always two sides to every story.
no, we should not allow abortion just because abortion always was around. and i don't think a single person actually said that was the reason for legalizing it. you confuse the main issues, probably on purpose.

and i didn't read the first page of this thread, but if or if not Jesus actually smoked marijuana, and truthfully i find it extremely doubtful, just because of the locale (i don't think marijauna was even used then and there - opiates, yes) and his economic status (poor carpenters, didn't exactly have a big stash lying around for friday nites), in fact the more i think on it, the more ridiculous that whole idea is, but none the less, who the hell cares????

the man was about peace and love and fellowship.
go Jesus!!!!!!
 

merryclaire

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Feb 1, 2005
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ps/ adendum to my previous submit:

peapod is a warm, caring, loving human being, who i'm glad to call friend.
and for all your talk of equality and consistency, tibear, there's no way i'd ever want my fate hanging in your hands. i'm a person, not a statistic. it's one of the reasons why we brought in the jury system.

go peapod!!!!
 

merryclaire

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Feb 1, 2005
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ps/ adendum to my previous submit:

peapod is a warm, caring, loving human being, who i'm glad to call friend.
and for all your talk of equality and consistency, tibear, there's no way i'd ever want my fate hanging in your hands. i'm a person, not a statistic. it's one of the reasons why we brought in the jury system.

go peapod!!!!
 

merryclaire

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Feb 1, 2005
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ps/ adendum to my previous submit:

peapod is a warm, caring, loving human being, who i'm glad to call friend.
and for all your talk of equality and consistency, tibear, there's no way i'd ever want my fate hanging in your hands. i'm a person, not a statistic. it's one of the reasons why we brought in the jury system.

go peapod!!!!
 

peapod

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Again what part of this do you not understand????

Do I contradict myself?? Well than I contradict myself!! I am large, I contain multitudes!!!
You have no layers, its just black and white for you. I pity you really. Merryclaire explained exactly how you come across. Yet merryclaire a christian, and her and I are buds. Why? Well she does not try to shove her beliefs down my throat, we can talk of many things and have different opinions. She is more about attraction rather than promotion. I am not a christian, yet we remain friends. I respect her right to believe what she wants and she respects my right to believe what I want. I would never use geroge carlin on her...just people like you who try to use religion to munipulate people with fear and ingorance.
 

peapod

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Again what part of this do you not understand????

Do I contradict myself?? Well than I contradict myself!! I am large, I contain multitudes!!!
You have no layers, its just black and white for you. I pity you really. Merryclaire explained exactly how you come across. Yet merryclaire a christian, and her and I are buds. Why? Well she does not try to shove her beliefs down my throat, we can talk of many things and have different opinions. She is more about attraction rather than promotion. I am not a christian, yet we remain friends. I respect her right to believe what she wants and she respects my right to believe what I want. I would never use geroge carlin on her...just people like you who try to use religion to munipulate people with fear and ingorance.