Jagmeet Singh is a hypocrite

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Fu ck are you ever stupid. Where do you get your info from?
The source of most truly stupid notions: religion.

I raised pigs.
To what altitude?

I know what they ate, and they sure as hell didn't eat it's own shit. Obviously you don't know the history of WHY pigs were forbidden to eat. Here's a hint, idiot, it has nothing to do with being "unclean".
Ironically, pigs are used extensively in research on the gastro-intestinal tract, because of the close similarity between pig guts and people guts. (That's for the edification of the reading public, gerryh, I'm aware you already know it.)
 

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Over my head? Don't tell me you were actually trying to be clever. If so you failed dismally. Try posting a reply that can actually be understood.

So using the word taste in reference to something other than taste buds is me trying to be clever?

WHOOSH!
 

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I already answered your query about the horse, go up scroll and read.


As for chickens, yes sometimes they do feed on filth but that is not their normal behavior. In our religion, chickens which are exhibiting this behavior have to be isolated for three days so that the impurity is removed from their system. Only then can they be slaughtered and considered Halal.

oops sorry I missed it thanks.

So in your opinion would Singh be in favour with all your beliefs or is he just grooming you for your vote? Or do you view Singh as a tool to further your agenda under the guise of religious rights?
 

ZulFiqar786

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oops sorry I missed it thanks.

So in your opinion would Singh be in favour with all your beliefs or is he just grooming you for your vote? Or do you view Singh as a tool to further your agenda under the guise of religious rights?
Such loaded questions. What do my beliefs have to do with Canadian politics? Singh is a Sikh and I am a Muslim. We have very contrary beliefs, but that’s not the point. Singh and I are from the same South Asian ethnicity. We are both brown people, we are both living in a highly racist society of White people who are dead against us becoming more politically influential and active. This is why I support Singh in his run for the NDP leadership, which thanks to our community’s vote looks more and more likely. Singh is an Amritdhari Sikh who is turbanned and wears a long beard. As such he will fight for other religious minorities rights to wear our articles and symbols, for example yarmulke for Jewish men, veil for Muslim women, skullcap for Muslim men, etc. Quebec wants to ban our women from wearing the Niqab (face-veil). Singh knows that once this dangerous precedent is set in discriminating against one religious community any other religious community could be next including his. This is why all of us religious minorities, including Jews, Sikhs and Muslims must support Jagmeet Singh in an increasingly xenophobic and racist Canada. I have no other agenda except that our religious rights should be protected. As a South Asian and Indian, I want our community to become stronger politically as this will benefit not on us but all other visible minorities too.
 

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Such loaded questions. What do my beliefs have to do with Canadian politics? Singh is a Sikh and I am a Muslim. We have very contrary beliefs, but that’s not the point. Singh and I are from the same South Asian ethnicity. We are both brown people, we are both living in a highly racist society of White people who are dead against us becoming more politically influential and active. This is why I support Singh in his run for the NDP leadership, which thanks to our community’s vote looks more and more likely. Singh is an Amritdhari Sikh who is turbanned and wears a long beard. As such he will fight for other religious minorities rights to wear our articles and symbols, for example yarmulke for Jewish men, veil for Muslim women, skullcap for Muslim men, etc. Quebec wants to ban our women from wearing the Niqab (face-veil). Singh knows that once this dangerous precedent is set in discriminating against one religious community any other religious community could be next including his. This is why all of us religious minorities, including Jews, Sikhs and Muslims must support Jagmeet Singh in an increasingly xenophobic and racist Canada. I have no other agenda except that our religious rights should be protected. As a South Asian and Indian, I want our community to become stronger politically as this will benefit not on us but all other visible minorities too.

So you look at him as a tool to help push the rights of your religion forward and help bring change to Canada, not assimilate into Canadian culture within the comforts of your religion through compromise?
 

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So you look at him as a tool to help push the rights of your religion forward and help bring change to Canada, not assimilate into Canadian culture within the comforts of your religion through compromise?
In this sense every politician is a tool for those who vote for them. Religious freedom is enshrined in the Charter. But given the dangerous mood of White Canadian society, especially in Quebec, we need someone who believes in this right passionately to be in the corridors of power. I have mentioned before that there isn’t a single Canadian “culture”. Canada is a country of many nations and distinct cultures, that’s the purport of multiculturalism which is Canada’s unwritten philosophy. Hence there is nothing to “assimilate” into, unless you are talking about White European culture. Of course we don’t want to assimilate into White European culture, and why should we? This isn’t Europe! We will never compromise on this point–ever.
 

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Such loaded questions. What do my beliefs have to do with Canadian politics? Singh is a Sikh and I am a Muslim. We have very contrary beliefs, but that’s not the point. Singh and I are from the same South Asian ethnicity. We are both brown people, we are both living in a highly racist society of White people who are dead against us becoming more politically influential and active. This is why I support Singh in his run for the NDP leadership, which thanks to our community’s vote looks more and more likely. Singh is an Amritdhari Sikh who is turbanned and wears a long beard. As such he will fight for other religious minorities rights to wear our articles and symbols, for example yarmulke for Jewish men, veil for Muslim women, skullcap for Muslim men, etc. Quebec wants to ban our women from wearing the Niqab (face-veil). Singh knows that once this dangerous precedent is set in discriminating against one religious community any other religious community could be next including his. This is why all of us religious minorities, including Jews, Sikhs and Muslims must support Jagmeet Singh in an increasingly xenophobic and racist Canada. I have no other agenda except that our religious rights should be protected. As a South Asian and Indian, I want our community to become stronger politically as this will benefit not on us but all other visible minorities too.
You aren't living in a highly racist society. Canada affords all minorities opportunities to excel. Now, if you said you CAME FROM a highly racist society, that I can believe.

When my parents came to Canada in the 50's, Canada was racist and it was towards other white people but listening to them you'd never know they experienced racism. Today, people like you who are given every opportunity cry racism where none exists.

The difference between a turban, yarmulka, skull cap and a niqab is that only one of them makes a person unidentifiable.

In this sense every politician is a tool for those who vote for them. Religious freedom is enshrined in the Charter. But given the dangerous mood of White Canadian society, especially in Quebec, we need someone who believes in this right passionately to be in the corridors of power. I have mentioned before that there isn’t a single Canadian “culture”. Canada is a country of many nations and distinct cultures, that’s the purport of multiculturalism which is Canada’s unwritten philosophy. Hence there is nothing to “assimilate” into, unless you are talking about White European culture. Of course we don’t want to assimilate into White European culture, and why should we? This isn’t Europe! We will never compromise on this point–ever.
The dangerous mood is in the Muslim community where radicals roam free without fear of being outed.

Canada most certainly has it's own culture and I've mentioned what makes up our culture yet you refuse to acknowledge it. Why?

There's not much power that comes from 3rd place.
 

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In this sense every politician is a tool for those who vote for them. Religious freedom is enshrined in the Charter. But given the dangerous mood of White Canadian society, especially in Quebec, we need someone who believes in this right passionately to be in the corridors of power. I have mentioned before that there isn’t a single Canadian “culture”. Canada is a country of many nations and distinct cultures, that’s the purport of multiculturalism which is Canada’s unwritten philosophy. Hence there is nothing to “assimilate” into, unless you are talking about White European culture. Of course we don’t want to assimilate into White European culture, and why should we? This isn’t Europe! We will never compromise on this point–ever.

Who said anything about White European culture I'm say Canadian multicultural society and if you wanted to you can assimilate through peaceful compromise. If you give a little Canada will give a little, same way every other religion is able to exist in this country. If you try to force yourselves and stubbornly don't compromise Canadians will never except you and there will always be friction. One example would be is to give up the Burka and keep the Babushka, it would show peaceful compromise.
 

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Who said anything about White European culture I'm say Canadian multicultural society and if you wanted to you can assimilate through peaceful compromise. If you give a little Canada will give a little, same way every other religion is able to exist in this country. If you try to force yourselves and stubbornly don't compromise Canadians will never except you and there will always be friction. One example would be is to give up the Burka and keep the Babushka, it would show peaceful compromise.
Your comments make no sense because by definition you cannot “assimilate” into something that is multicultural. Multiculturalism is the exact opposite of assimilation. To be multicultural means you continue to practice and exhibit your culture. As for giving up the burqa, why should our community do so? That is assimilating into a European idea and abandoning our value of modesty. Islamic spirituality, unlike that of other religions, is expressed through wearing more clothing not less. You claim you are not talking about White European culture, but your notion that Muslim ladies should stop wearing the burqa is coming from a completely Eurocentric perspective and notion of how people should dress. We Muslims frown upon White European culture of wearing very less clothing, to the point of being practically nude, yet here in Canada we are not trying to impose our values on non-Muslims, rather, we are only trying to preserve our own values for our own community. Though of course we do value the concept of Da’wa ila Allah, that is inviting people to God (evangelism) and Tabligh (preaching), but this is nothing but a persuasive exercise, not a coercive one. In the political sphere, we are only involved insofar as protecting the interests of our community. Any involvement in politics for something further would not be a community effort but an individual one.


As for friction, we are not afraid of that. Let there be social friction, as long as our right to religious freedom and expression is legally protected. Our involvement in politics is primarily focused on protecting that right legally. Societies and fluid and constantly changing in terms of attitudes, especially when people get used to something. We Muslims are unique in the sense that we are the most committed to our religion while other religions don’t hold that much sway anymore over their adherents.
 

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Your comments make no sense because by definition you cannot “assimilate” into something that is multicultural. Multiculturalism is the exact opposite of assimilation. To be multicultural means you continue to practice and exhibit your culture. As for giving up the burqa, why should our community do so? That is assimilating into a European idea and abandoning our value of modesty. Islamic spirituality, unlike that of other religions, is expressed through wearing more clothing not less. You claim you are not talking about White European culture, but your notion that Muslim ladies should stop wearing the burqa is coming from a completely Eurocentric perspective and notion of how people should dress. We Muslims frown upon White European culture of wearing very less clothing, to the point of being practically nude, yet here in Canada we are not trying to impose our values on non-Muslims, rather, we are only trying to preserve our own values for our own community. Though of course we do value the concept of Da’wa ila Allah, that is inviting people to God (evangelism) and Tabligh (preaching), but this is nothing but a persuasive exercise, not a coercive one. In the political sphere, we are only involved insofar as protecting the interests of our community. Any involvement in politics for something further would not be a community effort but an individual one.


As for friction, we are not afraid of that. Let there be social friction, as long as our right to religious freedom and expression is legally protected. Our involvement in politics is primarily focused on protecting that right legally. Societies and fluid and constantly changing in terms of attitudes, especially when people get used to something. We Muslims are unique in the sense that we are the most committed to our religion while other religions don’t hold that much sway anymore over their adherents.

Isn't the true reason for the Burka and loose fitting clothing so that your wife's beauty isn't easily visible for the ruling class to steal her from you? Just like Mohammed did to that lower class dude? and it is not really a religious thing?

So you have no real intentions of joining the melting pot of multiculturalism through peaceful means?
 

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Isn't the true reason for the Burka and loose fitting clothing so that your wife's beauty isn't easily visible for the ruling class to steal her from you? Just like Mohammed did to that lower class dude? and it is not really a religious thing?

So you have no real intentions of joining the melting pot of multiculturalism through peaceful means?
No such concept as “Stealing” someone’s wife. Our Prophet never “stole” anyone’s wife. Yes he married his wife Zainab daughter of Jahsh after her husband Zaid son of Harith divorced her voluntarily. The purpose of veil is modesty. Jewish women also practice veil, especially the Yemenite Jews and those of the Lev Tahor sect of Judaism.

As for multiculturalism, it is not the same thing as a “melting pot”. A melting pot means that all the cultures are blended into a single culture, which exhibits characteristics of the distinct cultures that were blended together to form it. But multiculturalism is not about blending cultures into a single culture. The prefix “multi” means many, not one. So we have no intention of joining the melting pot because there is no melting pot in Canada.
 

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Within Canada, the NDP have little room to expand and evolve. It has been suggested that his desire to become the leader of the NDP is more about his personal ambition than it is about bettering the lives of others.

If this is true, then he is doomed to fail. Sincerity must be genuine or it becomes a dead end.
 

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Within Canada, the NDP have little room to expand and evolve. It has been suggested that his desire to become the leader of the NDP is more about his personal ambition than it is about bettering the lives of others.

If this is true, then he is doomed to fail. Sincerity must be genuine or it becomes a dead end.


Does Socialism work in a society that depends on money?
 

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It acts as a counter weight - a balance if you will - to keep everything in harmony.

A simple philosophy is that everything that exists must have a counterbalance. Good and evil. Wet and dry. Love and hate.

Political parties represent the various points on a lever. Each designed to steady the others. Eliminate one and the lever becomes desynronized and we see, in government, dictatorships and destruction. A negativity which will be restored, but at great cost.

Muslims, for example, have not been a problem because their sphere of influence was limited. The world was in balance. These past twenty years, their violence and hatefulness has grown and things are out of balance. Order will be restored, but there will be a cost. Nature is more powerful than humanity. All will be as it must be. Since our time on earth is limited, we will probably not see the correction.
 

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No such concept as “Stealing” someone’s wife. Our Prophet never “stole” anyone’s wife. Yes he married his wife Zainab daughter of Jahsh after her husband Zaid son of Harith divorced her voluntarily. The purpose of veil is modesty. Jewish women also practice veil, especially the Yemenite Jews and those of the Lev Tahor sect of Judaism.

As for multiculturalism, it is not the same thing as a “melting pot”. A melting pot means that all the cultures are blended into a single culture, which exhibits characteristics of the distinct cultures that were blended together to form it. But multiculturalism is not about blending cultures into a single culture. The prefix “multi” means many, not one. So we have no intention of joining the melting pot because there is no melting pot in Canada.

I can't find the articles on wife swapping, stealing, slaving, the true origin for covering the women with a horse blanket.

The melting pot is truly what makes us a multicultural society, we learn and understand from each other and merge different cultures together while still respecting each other beliefs. So I take it from your answer you do not want to join our Canadian family rather you would like to dominate it.
 

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Can you explain why Muslims and Jewish people do not eat pork?

WHAT IN HELL DO DOGS AND PORK HAVE TO DO WITH MUSLIM TERROR AND SHARIA LAW THAT WILL GUT OUR VAUNTED CONSTITUTION AND RENDER HALF THE COUNTRY-THE FEMALE HALF-AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS?

Mind you- turning Judy Rebick and Sunnera Thobanni into second class citizens might not be a bad thing? Who needs National Action Committee feminazis voting in our elections- or in the case of Thobanni- teaching at our places of not so higher learning? And who hears about NAC these days now that LIE-berals have decided the Feminiazis are a lightning rod for trouble and have cut their grant money? I guess LIE-berals have decided that Black Lives Matter are a better vote buying investment?

And here is another thought: in the Ottoman Empire those who were not Muslims had to pay a special religious tax in order to keep going to church, synagogue or Hindu Temple- once the Muslims force Canada to be a |Cdn Caliphate as part of the Umma- what new taxes will we pay- mandated by Sharia Law?

And on the same note- as Muslims consider dogs to be unclean- will we be looking at fines and taxes for the privilege of keeping the dirty beasts?

I wonder how the thousands of Muslims in Canada who work in supermarkets and restaurants feel about that when they are asked to serve bacon, ham, or salami? None of them have ever refused to serve me a ham sandwich.
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Over my head? Don't tell me you were actually trying to be clever. If so you failed dismally. Try posting a reply that can actually be understood.

Actually I saw a post once by a smart ass who explained that his sense of humour was such that he used to stroll through supermarkets `redistributing` the pork and bacon into bins holding Halal meat....rather funny in a mean sort of way!
 

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No such concept as “Stealing” someone’s wife. Our Prophet never “stole” anyone’s wife. Yes he married his wife Zainab daughter of Jahsh after her husband Zaid son of Harith divorced her voluntarily. The purpose of veil is modesty. Jewish women also practice veil, especially the Yemenite Jews and those of the Lev Tahor sect of Judaism.

As for multiculturalism, it is not the same thing as a “melting pot”. A melting pot means that all the cultures are blended into a single culture, which exhibits characteristics of the distinct cultures that were blended together to form it. But multiculturalism is not about blending cultures into a single culture. The prefix “multi” means many, not one. So we have no intention of joining the melting pot because there is no melting pot in Canada.
Mohammed(may piss be upon him)murdered men and stole wives. He profited from the slave trade. He lusted after women and was a pedophile. He was not peaceful by any means. Jihadists and terrorists today emulate Mohammed's ruthlessness. There is nothing peaceful about Islam.

You're right about the meaning of multiculturalism and some people can't understand it. But multiculturalism fails when it comes to Muslims, In countries like the U.K. and Germany where Muslims are given oppurtunities while keeping their cultural identity it has not stopped them from committing acts of terror in those countries. Last year there were 6000 cases of female genital mutilation in the U.K., yet no charges were laid in any of these cases for fear of offending them, this is ridiculous, people that practice this act should be imprisoned for child abuse. Muslims aren't interested in a multicultural society only in an Islamic society.

I can't find the articles on wife swapping, stealing, slaving, the true origin for covering the women with a horse blanket.

The melting pot is truly what makes us a multicultural society, we learn and understand from each other and merge different cultures together while still respecting each other beliefs. So I take it from your answer you do not want to join our Canadian family rather you would like to dominate it.
Multiculturalism means people can keep their cultural identity while keeping dialogue open with other cultures. It does not mean a melting pot.